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New Badge and Kit Announced (Merged)

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15 minutes ago, Three Lions said:

@redraw were Bristol City fans using street art and guerrilla style ideas before? well virtually everyone apart from Celtic who started doing the same at around the same year. confirm or deny???  

I am not denying city fans do all that.....but you are trying to suggest that the club putting up badge marketing on advertising boarding's, large projections on the bridge and buildings etc are ideas 'stolen' from the fans.

Absolute poppycock......its basic marketing 

 

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Anyway more importantly I am surprised there has been no mention of when the new designs can be bought

Seems a bit odd to have a launch and then not follow it up with sales of some kind?

Surely at least the leisure wear could go on sale now?

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49 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

The new guerilla advertising campaign is absolutely brilliant and the club deserve full credit for it. We're in a City that is renowned all over the continent for graffiti and street art, we should be pushing that angle imo. Hope to see gurt big spray paint robins across the City.

Wonder what Banksy thinks of it?:ph34r:

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42 minutes ago, Three Lions said:

@zidereyeed where do you think the got tgose idesa from? fans. all done by fans years ago, banner drops, sticker bombing stencilling murals projections all done by fans years ago. it would have been brilliant if they and involved fans in it. 

Oh completely, and I'd rather they did, but fair play to them for actually doing something like that. Fairly sure we're the first club that did sticker bombing too.

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@redraw where do you think these street art ideas came from? City fans. nobody else was doing it before in Bristol and the UK. fans who have at times sat down with people at the club and suggested they do very very similar or the same with fans. the biggie with fans has been left out. no poppycock . you may not realise how far some ideas went  one got as far as reps from Taunton cider where Robins murals would be up round the City featuring Bristol City and drink up thy cider. It obviously didn't happen but this  was part of loads of ideas along with bring back the Robin putting fans bang in the centre of promoting the club. yes the ideas have been "stolen" 

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8 minutes ago, Three Lions said:

@redraw where do you think these street art ideas came from? City fans. nobody else was doing it before in Bristol and the UK. fans who have at times sat down with people at the club and suggested they do very very similar or the same with fans. the biggie with fans has been left out. no poppycock . you may not realise how far some ideas went  one got as far as reps from Taunton cider where Robins murals would be up round the City featuring Bristol City and drink up thy cider. It obviously didn't happen but this  was part of loads of ideas along with bring back the Robin putting fans bang in the centre of promoting the club. yes the ideas have been "stolen" 

Buying advertising hoarding space and sticking the club badge on it is not street art......what city fans do/have done and what the club are doing are completely different.

The club has not claimed it as "guerrilla" marketing, someone on here described it in that way

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1 hour ago, tin said:

Not many clubs have a landmark of their city, you’re right. But why do we have to copy other clubs when including the bridge would set us apart from other clubs and be a nod towards history? 

Admittedly, the ‘90s robin and bridge design has nostalgic value for me so I’m biased. But I think the new badge could’ve been far, far better - as others have shown. 

I agree that it could have been better. It’s ok though. 

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They've taken a big risk here IMO of getting absolutely panned on merchandise sales as, from what I have seen/heard, the majority don't like it or are not planning to buy anything with it on.

What I don't understand is, after all this 'consultation' with the fanbase, why they didn't whittle it down to a few final choices and then put them to a poll for the whole fanbase to vote on? Then no one could complain as it would have been chosen by us, the fans.

Seems an obvious thing to do to me?

 

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you will argue the toss redraw but what is on bath road by Arnos vale well City fans used the same site for free. if their paying fans could do it for nothing. things here could be done with fans. Its been suggested again and again by fans and in person to people at the club to include supporters. Jon lansdown mentioned bring back the robin. it was a campaign with a lot of effort behind ideas. sadly the bloke at the front sadly passed away so its personal but as somebody who helped out I will tell you the club have been copying fans ideas for years. except the big one DO IT WITH FANS.  I will leave the thread now before I say something I regret. 

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4 minutes ago, KingLear said:

They've taken a big risk here IMO of getting absolutely panned on merchandise sales as, from what I have seen/heard, the majority don't like it or are not planning to buy anything with it on

 

I am happy to bet they will sell an absolute shitload of replica shirts and other merch too.

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17 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

I am happy to bet they will sell an absolute shitload of replica shirts and other merch too.

You’re probably right and it’s most likely a knee jerk reaction by most.

I still think a vote on a final few designs would have been a good idea though.

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1 hour ago, Rossi the Robin said:

Coincidentally saw this on social media at the same time 

 

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That badge is shit 

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1 hour ago, KingLear said:

They've taken a big risk here IMO of getting absolutely panned on merchandise sales as, from what I have seen/heard, the majority don't like it or are not planning to buy anything with it on.

What I don't understand is, after all this 'consultation' with the fanbase, why they didn't whittle it down to a few final choices and then put them to a poll for the whole fanbase to vote on? Then no one could complain as it would have been chosen by us, the fans.

Seems an obvious thing to do to me?

 

There is the problem. Bristol Sport doesn't want to be seen to be dictated to by the fans. It's like having a loss of power.

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55 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said:

I'm on the fence with the badge but I think it looks good on the shirt. 

This will be the first shirt I have bought in about 5 seasons 

Shirt itself looks great, very tempted to get one for the first time since 14/15. Just think the badge would have been a lot better if the bridge had been incorporated like they even had in their designs, it makes the distinction of Bristol clear.

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3 hours ago, phantom said:

Along the Bath Road by Arnos Vale there are wooden signs that have appeared with the logo on - pretty smart

If someone is passing later with a screwdriver . . .. 

The word was "Similar" not identical

Do swords and robins look similar?

The ones I've seen don't.

9 minutes ago, hodge said:

Shirt itself looks great, very tempted to get one for the first time since 14/15. Just think the badge would have been a lot better if the bridge had been incorporated like they even had in their designs, it makes the distinction of Bristol clear.

So it's your fault we haven't been promoted yet!

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It's not a million miles off the one I made, my avatar, but much neater and obviously more professional.

It will take time to grow on me, but I'm quite liking it.

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18 hours ago, Newquay-Red said:

'Hey man, can I copy your homework?'

'Yeah sure, but make it slightly different so that nobody knows you copied'

 

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If you do a bit more research there is loads that are similar.

 

The only nod to history is the formation year.

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1 hour ago, The hand of RO'D said:

I'm on the fence with the badge but I think it looks good on the shirt. 

This will be the first shirt I have bought in about 5 seasons 

So you’re on the fence with the robin ? 

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39 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Made me chuckle if nothing else.

 

You may joke but when we introduced it the club superimposed a picture of us on the pitch, celebrating promotion, in front of the new badge.

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42 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Made me chuckle if nothing else.

 

That actually made me Laugh out loud in Cabot circus. Had some strange looks 😂

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I've really come around to this in the light of this morning.  It is so much better than the city crest and I believe that concerns will melt away given time.  I like the insinuation from advertising billboards that the Robin itself is also easy to use on it's own in marketing.  Yes, other variations may be your preference right now but this is what we have and on that shirt it looks great. Definitely picking one up.

I'm going to put aside any concerns on the type of Robin we have and celebrate the fact the club listened and we have a sleek, modern Robin at all.  I'd also recommend people rush out to buy the current away shirt as that robin is iconic and the over-sized badge on the white shirt will be something to treasure in years to come.

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19 hours ago, Newquay-Red said:

'Hey man, can I copy your homework?'

'Yeah sure, but make it slightly different so that nobody knows you copied'

 

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1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said:

Do swords and robins look similar?

The ones I've seen don't.

This was what I was referring to @JamesBCFC

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34 minutes ago, phantom said:

 

This was what I was referring to @JamesBCFC

But you can apply that to any point of any badge.

Club X has their badge as a shield shape, so we never should have done with the old one.

Club Y has the date at the bottom so we can't do that.

Etc.

 

A club or 2 having a red circle doesn't mean no-one else should ever use it.

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Anyone else surprised this hasn't made it onto BBC Sport website / Sky Sports website yet / other big media outlets?

I mean apart from a solitary ITV article and Talksport 'club crest ranking' article I can't find a thing online other than local reports such as Bristol Post.

When Brentford / Leeds new badges came out the media were all over it.

I know we're little old Bristol City but still...

 

 

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Personally, I don't mind it but would prefer if the bridge was incorporated into the circle / ball at the bottom, that would make it unmistakably Bristol.

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33 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

But you can apply that to any point of any badge.

Club X has their badge as a shield shape, so we never should have done with the old one.

Club Y has the date at the bottom so we can't do that.

Etc.

 

A club or 2 having a red circle doesn't mean no-one else should ever use it.

Which is why I said SIMILAR, not indentical

anyway time to move on, on this 

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37 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Personally, I don't mind it but would prefer if the bridge was incorporated into the circle / ball at the bottom, that would make it unmistakably Bristol.

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Like that.

Sad but true, we’re stuck with the official one for the next decade or so. Tolerating it, is the best I can manage.

Let’s hope the savings of not employing top people on the badge redesign means more available  to be spent on top people on the playing side. 

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I think many of you are over estimating how recognisable a line drawing of the suspension bridge would be to people outside of City fans and residents of Bristol.

Yes, to us it is unmistakably Bristol but to most others without a link to the city it will just look like A N Other bridge on a football badge.

The dead giveaway that it’s Bristol would be the word Bristol at the top of the crest IMHO.

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1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Heh heh! ! That's very fanny.

Think someone has already pointed out if you turn the new badge sideways......

All we need to do now is swap the robin motif to the left, aim it at the BS logo on the right and then reveal our new sponsor as Pornhub.

JL is a genius. 

 

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3 hours ago, Bainsey said:

Anyone else surprised this hasn't made it onto BBC Sport website / Sky Sports website yet / other big media outlets?

I mean apart from a solitary ITV article and Talksport 'club crest ranking' article I can't find a thing online other than local reports such as Bristol Post.

When Brentford / Leeds new badges came out the media were all over it.

I know we're little old Bristol City but still...

 

 

Under the radar Bainsay, under the radar.

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6 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

I agree that it could have been better. It’s ok though. 

Hehehe 

What a giant weapon you are mate 😂

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4 minutes ago, Oops said:

Hehehe 

What a giant weapon you are mate 😂

Why’s that then..?!

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2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Why’s that then..?!

Just seen your hilarious strap on post 🤷‍♂️

Want to do this here or by PM?

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The new badge has grown on me since yesterday and I don’t mind the design of the robin - but I’m still irked that it doesn’t incorporate the bridge. In my time as a City fan I’ve been used to our badge having something on it that represents Bristol (the Suspension Bridge on the old robin badge and then the coat of arms) and, for me, that’s always been more important than the robin (which is not unique to us). Without a reference to Bristol in the image it just seems that something is missing. One of the best things about Ashton Gate is it’s location overlooked by the iconic Suspension Bridge, and based on some of the images posters have put on this thread the crest design wouldn’t need much altering at all to reflect that. 

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I’ve been going to Ashton Gate since 1968. I don’t especially like any of the badges we’ve worn - paricularly that atrocious robin badge from the 1970s - 1980s, which was an amateurish embarrassment. 

But a badge makes no difference and is of very very minor importance.

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9 minutes ago, Offside said:

The new badge has grown on me since yesterday and I don’t mind the design of the robin - but I’m still irked that it doesn’t incorporate the bridge. In my time as a City fan I’ve been used to our badge having something on it that represents Bristol (the Suspension Bridge on the old robin badge and then the coat of arms) and, for me, that’s always been more important than the robin (which is not unique to us). Without a reference to Bristol in the image it just seems that something is missing. One of the best things about Ashton Gate is it’s location overlooked by the iconic Suspension Bridge, and based on some of the images posters have put on this thread the crest design wouldn’t need much altering at all to reflect that. 

The Suspension Bridge isn't on the coat of arms.

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I think the omission of the bridge is because they want the focus of the badge to be entirely on the robin. In the release video JL mentioned Bristol City 'owning' "The Robins" and said this "wasn't something we've been doing" or words to that effect.  Whilst many (less illustrious) teams might lay claim to the nickname the club want it to become exclusively ours. This explains the simultaneous  increase in the use of the nickname and the plastering of it all over social media and the city.  I suspect that the club felt that including the bridge diluted this.

Some will complain about this marketing tactic but personally I am all for anything that attempts to cement an identity on this club (and by extension city).  I like some of the concept designs that include the bridge, but this reasoning does make sense to me. It will take time to bear fruit but could lead to Bristol City being the only team that the majority of football fans think of when someone says "the Robins".

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Don't like the badge. Hated the robin when I was younger and still hate it. Theirs nothing unique about it. The new desgin is a similar style as the Brentford badge and we are not the only club that uses the robin. Cheltenham and Swindon are the first ones that come to mind. Lots of people go on about club identity so what can be more identifiable than a club from Bristol, using the Bristol coat of arms. The more often we change the badge the less identity we have. Lots of people also go on about tradition. The club has used the coat of arms for more years than the robin. If the club wants a kit and badge that is unique and traditional it needs to be the red and white along with the purple and lime kits with the coat of arms.

Leave the badge alone.

Just seen the Carlton badge which is also a similar style.

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I just wanted to add that there are tons of clubs that use a round badge and this odd obsession with comparing it to Brentfords badge in my eyes can only be down to colours.

Badges with a similar design to our own could include Brentford, Sheffield United, Aberdeen, Feyenoord, Denmark etc and then if we change up the colours even further Bayern Munich, Leicester City, Man City, PSG, Millwall, Wigan, QPR etc

I think the reason ours looks so similar to Brentfords in terms of colour choice is because it's the best combination for us. Had we gone with only red and white it wouldn't have the same "pop".

It still works in red and white only but I think we'd all agree that it looks better with the black elements to break it up and make it really work well.

 

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Also I'm looking forward to seeing it on a purple and lime kit.

 

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1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said:

The Suspension Bridge isn't on the coat of arms.

Yeah I know. My wording wasn’t very clear. I meant we had something representing Bristol in both badges. 

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