Unan Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 So JL has said they set up a Fans Feedback Group as they went through the redesign process. This isn’t the poll that was sent via email. So, were you consulted? Do you know anyone that was? Surely with the vast array of users on OTIB some of us were consulted? If you were I would love some information on what was discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Someone's not happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted March 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Someone's not happy I’m relatively indifferent in all honesty, I’m just very surprised we’ve heard nothing about this in the past 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, Unan said: So JL has said they set up a Fans Feedback Group as they went through the redesign process. This isn’t the poll that was sent via email. So, were you consulted? Do you know anyone that was? Surely with the vast array of users on OTIB some of us were consulted? If you were I would love some information on what was discussed. It would be interesting to hear who was on this group and how they engaged with fellow supporters. Consultation is frequently used as nothing more than a box ticking exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 I've completed at least one email from the club on the subject of a new badge, but I've not been personally consulted. Not sure if that's a yes or no to your question tbh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 26, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Would be interested to hear from those that said they were and how and when they were consulted, as there is no FAN group anymore and didn't go through the SC&T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 26, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: I've completed at least one email from the club on the subject of a new badge, but I've not been personally consulted. Not sure if that's a yes or no to your question tbh... I would say no, the indication from the club is that a group of supporters were consulted AFTER the survey we were all sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Probably as much consultation as the rugby club rename. Property of Mr Lansdown so get used to such interaction. Naff but not the end of the world. If people really object dont buy any merchandise with it on and insist upon wearing old clobber if you wear such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 No. My personal account manager did not consult me. But bugger a badge or crappy new kit, im still worried about Sheffield United! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 I really don’t see the big issue. I don't hate it, don’t love it. Wewere told the Robin was coming back at it would be “modernised” it’s ok. Meh. I’d rather have kept the coat of arms but still, meh. It’s what it represents that matters, so I’ll support it. It’s not embarrassing, it’s justs bit ... well... meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Unan said: So JL has said they set up a Fans Feedback Group as they went through the redesign process. This isn’t the poll that was sent via email. So, were you consulted? Do you know anyone that was? Surely with the vast array of users on OTIB some of us were consulted? If you were I would love some information on what was discussed. I’m not sure what your objective is, in having a poll..? Any consultation group is usually a very small percentage of any group. Bearing in mind it’s been proven that otib probably represents about 1% of regulars at Ashton Gate, the only way to tell if people like it or not will be in merchandise sales. I’m not supporting it, but I’m not opposed to it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: m not sure what your objective is, in having a poll..? Any consultation group is usually a very small percentage of any group. Bearing in mind it’s been proven that otib probably represents about 1% of regulars at Ashton Gate, the only way to tell if people like it or not will be in merchandise sales. I’m not supporting it, but I’m not opposed to it either. But a consultation group by its design can represent demographics of fans easily if the intent is to do so. Otib almost certainly represents more than 1% of regulars. It would be reasonable to expect that somebody can answer the opening posters questions if Jon Lansdown wanted to broadly consult fans /promote engagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Unan said: So JL has said they set up a Fans Feedback Group as they went through the redesign process. This isn’t the poll that was sent via email. So, were you consulted? Do you know anyone that was? Surely with the vast array of users on OTIB some of us were consulted? If you were I would love some information on what was discussed. Sorry mate, but it's of no real relevance is it? Look at the comments, look at the equally useless poll. Do you really think there is any sort of badge that could be designed where 100% of the fans would have said it was perfect? Every badge or shirt (even the ones that some people now call iconic) have had their detractors when in use. They could have consulted 1000 of us and people would have been equally unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 It may be just me....but I really think that if the new badge had included a robin, 1894 and the suspension bridge, a lot more fans would have been happy with it.....we just missed out the iconic, world famous landmark.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 According to Jon Lansdown he consulted the Supporters trust over the date of 1894. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Otib almost certainly represents more than 1% of regulars. Ok, I don’t know the stats & facts, but we’ve got what.. 17k regulars nowadays..? Maybe 1% is inaccurate. But how many people post on here regularly, during an international break..? Ok, so maybe more traffic than usual due to an “evocative event” (new badge) How many different people have been on here in the last 24 hours..? I’ve no idea. Maybe 5% of the regular attendees..? Many of those on here openly admit to not going to games regularly. How far off the mark am I..? Would genuinely be interesting to know, for future reference of the opinion on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 The man is a buffoon. if this clown and his cronies are what we’ve got to tolerate, they can swivel for my £500 season ticket. It’s ******* awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Oops said: The man is a buffoon. if this clown and his cronies are what we’ve got to tolerate, they can swivel for my £500 season ticket. It’s ******* awful. Slight over reaction, don’t you think..?! It’s not awful. It’s not what I’d have chosen, but it’s hardly worth getting upset about..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 51 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Sorry mate, but it's of no real relevance is it? Look at the comments, look at the equally useless poll. Do you really think there is any sort of badge that could be designed where 100% of the fans would have said it was perfect? Every badge or shirt (even the ones that some people now call iconic) have had their detractors when in use. They could have consulted 1000 of us and people would have been equally unhappy. Totally disagree mate. If they’d listened to the fans, or taken any notice whatsoever of what we wanted, this dogs cock of of a badge would not have been sanctioned. I support the team, not the corporate machinations that burble within it. As always, some clown has been paid a huge amount of money to knock up a logo. And a ******* logo is an affront to everyone who invests in the team and what we try to accomplish. As always, the wishes of the mugs who turn out rain or shine, win or draw, are subsumed by the blind arrogance of people who think they know better. ******* disgusting behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Oops said: Totally disagree mate. If they’d listened to the fans, or taken any notice whatsoever of what we wanted, this dogs cock of of a badge would not have been sanctioned. I support the team, not the corporate machinations that burble within it. As always, some clown has been paid a huge amount of money to knock up a logo. And a ******* logo is an affront to everyone who invests in the team and what we try to accomplish. As always, the wishes of the mugs who turn out rain or shine, win or draw, are subsumed by the blind arrogance of people who think they know better. ******* disgusting behaviour. Sorry, haven’t there been long running campaigns to “bring the Robin back”..? Not something I’ve ever backed myself, but here it is. What’s the problem..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Ok, I don’t know the stats & facts, but we’ve got what.. 17k regulars nowadays..? Maybe 1% is inaccurate. But how many people post on here regularly, during an international break..? Ok, so maybe more traffic than usual due to an “evocative event” (new badge) How many different people have been on here in the last 24 hours..? I’ve no idea. Maybe 5% of the regular attendees..? Many of those on here openly admit to not going to games regularly. How far off the mark am I..? Would genuinely be interesting to know, for future reference of the opinion on here. I think it would be quite reasonable to think that 170 (your 1% of 17000) of the users of a Bristol City fans forum which has thousands of members would be attending Bristol City matches … Its an odd proposition to think that figure would not be higher. My point was about the nature of Jon Lansdowns consultation. A consultation group by its design can represent demographics of fans easily if the intent is to do so. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/a-crest-fans-can-hold-close-to-their-hearts-lansdown/ Jon Lansdown here mentions a fans feedback group which covered various sections and demographic of the fan base … Again I do not think the opening posters questions are uneven as they are posted on a heavily used forum, which really does draw its membership from various sections and demographic of the fan base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Slight over reaction, don’t you think..?! It’s not awful. It’s not what I’d have chosen, but it’s hardly worth getting upset about..! Upset? I’ll still be there week in, week out mate. But the thing that really sticks in my craw is that the corporate machine rolls on, no matter what. This unbelievably crass decision was made way before ‘they’ even canvassed opinion from the fan base. The identity of Bristol City has been destroyed by greed and ignorance, and I’m really annoyed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cowshed said: I think it would be quite reasonable to think that 170 (your 1% of 17000) of the users of a Bristol City fans forum which has thousands of members would be attending Bristol City matches … Its an odd proposition to think that figure would not be higher. My point was about the nature of Jon Lansdowns consultation. A consultation group by its design can represent demographics of fans easily if the intent is to do so. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/a-crest-fans-can-hold-close-to-their-hearts-lansdown/ Jon Lansdown here mentions a fans feedback group which covered various sections and demographic of the fan base … Again I do not think the opening posters questions are uneven as they are posted on a heavily used forum, which really does draw its membership from various sections and demographic of the fan base Well, the fact only 111 people have currently responded to the poll and 15% claim to have been consulted, seems to kind of nullify the concern, does it not..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Oops said: Upset? I’ll still be there week in, week out mate. But the thing that really sticks in my craw is that the corporate machine rolls on, no matter what. This unbelievably crass decision was made way before ‘they’ even canvassed opinion from the fan base. The identity of Bristol City has been destroyed by greed and ignorance, and I’m really annoyed about it. What element of “greed” is satisfied by this..? If it’s not popular, they will sell less. (Tickets, merchandise, etc) so how can that be classed as greed..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Sorry, haven’t there been long running campaigns to “bring the Robin back”..? Not something I’ve ever backed myself, but here it is. What’s the problem..? Bring the robin back Not that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Well, the fact only 111 people have currently responded to the poll and 15% claim to have been consulted, seems to kind of nullify the concern, does it not..? Then these posters will be able to answer the last line of the opening post. 3 hours ago, Unan said: If you were I would love some information on what was discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Then these posters will be able to answer the last line of the opening post. What do you think was discussed..?! out of interest.. genuinely... did you complete the supporter survey about logos..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: What element of “greed” is satisfied by this..? If it’s not popular, they will sell less. (Tickets, merchandise, etc) so how can that be classed as greed..? Ok, just so we’re clear. I don’t want to see this new daft logo on anything, we’re more than a logo. The Bristol coat of arms was fine by me, can’t beat a unicorn or two on a crest; along with the Suspension Bridge. But this? No. This is not what we have strived for. It’s a cop out by people who don’t have any affection or connection to the club, team or fans they are supposed to represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, Oops said: Totally disagree mate. If they’d listened to the fans, or taken any notice whatsoever of what we wanted, this dogs cock of of a badge would not have been sanctioned. I support the team, not the corporate machinations that burble within it. As always, some clown has been paid a huge amount of money to knock up a logo. And a ******* logo is an affront to everyone who invests in the team and what we try to accomplish. As always, the wishes of the mugs who turn out rain or shine, win or draw, are subsumed by the blind arrogance of people who think they know better. ******* disgusting behaviour. You appear to be in a very small minority here, clearly they should have just asked you and no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.thumb.png.b717f72c0320930c89b72b5fcf5f7a26.png)
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.