MarcusX Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 hours ago, JBFC II said: But it didn't need that to take him off, he was hardly trying to escape the stewards grasp. It was completely over excessive force Rubbish. In this climate you don’t know someone’s intentions. I have no sympathy for anyone who breaks the law then has their “rights” exploited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Apologies, I wasn’t clear....I just meant that by saying the invader didn’t deserve the treatment he received just serves to trivialise what could have escalated into a serious incident - stewards just don’t know what a pitch invader’s intentions are these days, so heavy handed responses should be expected....and encouraged.... Exactly. Unfortunately you have to expect the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Rubbish. In this climate you don’t know someone’s intentions. I have no sympathy for anyone who breaks the law then has their “rights” exploited Really? Not defending him for entering the pitch, that’s up to him, but he’s come from the away end after we’ve just scored, why else would he be on the pitch? Steward knew why aswell, all I’m saying is it was over excessive force when it clearly wasn’t needed, not as though he was resisting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenaldo Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Some steward are just pumped up morons - there was that tool that had a go at grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC101 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Anyone else notice about 5/6 stewards come steaming around the side of the stand in the corner after Weimann’s 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, BCFC11 said: Anyone else notice about 5/6 stewards come steaming around the side of the stand in the corner after Weimann’s 3rd? Yeah, they came storming in like a cavalry charge. All in all, I thought their stewards were ok. For one, they didn't force fans to clear the gangways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Yeah, they came storming in like a cavalry charge. All in all, I thought their stewards were ok. For one, they didn't force fans to clear the gangways. Haha! Looked like they couldn’t wait to steam in on a few supporters either that or they decided to leave early then run back in to join in with the celebrations! How you’ve described them overall though that’s how it should be imo, aslong as people aren’t obstructing any others views I can’t see the problem, ott H&S laws though but if an emergency did ever happen you’d have to be a complete cock to not get out of the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Social media: law, law enforcers and court of justice all under one roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Waffleflap said: Celebrate the goal in the stands only. If I was the steward I would of taken his head clean off You’re too soft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Brady Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Did anyone film it? The steward would lose his job yes the lad was wrong but that restraint is dangerous and over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Don't go on the pitch. Should introduce tazers and electric fences to keep the riff raff off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 10 hours ago, MarcusX said: Sorry but if he’s gone on the pitch he’s committed a crime and therefore, in my opinion, whatever it takes to get him off Presumably you'd be OK with police using tasers to make the job altogether much quicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 7 hours ago, BCFC101 said: . Cant see anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Super said: Cant see anything wrong with that. And your application for Chief Constable has been successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: And your application for Chief Constable has been successful. The bloke is clearly trying not to be dragged away. Hardly excessive force being used! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, Super said: The bloke is clearly trying not to be dragged away. Hardly excessive force being used! Hence your successful application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, CotswoldRed said: Hence your successful application Do i get to work with @JulieH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 9 hours ago, MarcusX said: Rubbish. In this climate you don’t know someone’s intentions. I have no sympathy for anyone who breaks the law then has their “rights” exploited I think we knew his intentions, a city fan is hardly going to run towards where his own team are celebrating and try and attack them after having joined in with the celebrations is he? Yes, he needed to be taken off. But being dragged by his neck off the pitch isn't the way to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Super said: Cant see anything wrong with that. That is only part of it, it does not show the original contact from behind. It is far more effective to take the hand and bring it up behind the back and then move the person away. Also, it is dangerous: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/31/policed-football-fans-enemy-manchester-city-bournemouth-police-stewards As @JulieH wil confirm, the Police do not specifically teach headlocks in training. Indeed, they are taught the dangers of restraining around the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 hours ago, BCFC101 said: . That's disgusting imo. Genuinely looked like he was choking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 There was little to no force in that headlock but from the angle it is performed and the way the guy is walking, it looks odd. Not really worthy of a three page thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: There was little to no force in that headlock but from the angle it is performed and the way the guy is walking, it looks odd. Not really worthy of a three page thread. Yes there was. Did you see the whole incident in real time? This does not show all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 A thug in a high viz vest disgusting over the top reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC101 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: That is only part of it, it does not show the original contact from behind. It is far more effective to take the hand and bring it up behind the back and then move the person away. Also, it is dangerous: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/31/policed-football-fans-enemy-manchester-city-bournemouth-police-stewards As @JulieH wil confirm, the Police do not specifically teach headlocks in training. Indeed, they are taught the dangers of restraining around the neck. I tried to show the whole thing but GIPHY limited me to a 6 second clip, the full thing is on here at 3:49 (not my video btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Yes there was. Did you see the whole incident in real time? This does not show all of it. Watched the whole thing now and yes there was excessive force considering he wasn’t a danger. I don’t have any sympathy for the guys on the pitch though and hope they all get banned for life.....and the steward should be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, BCFC101 said: I tried to show the whole thing but GIPHY limited me to a 6 second clip, the full thing is on here at 3:49 (not my video btw) Thought Patterson’s headlock on Weimann looked more dangerous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Waffleflap said: Don't go on the pitch. Should introduce tazers and electric fences to keep the riff raff off That would be interesting to see and not in a good way, if god forbid there was another stadium fire ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Lads got proof, off to the docs then sue the steward . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Yes there was. Did you see the whole incident in real time? This does not show all of it. This. He actually feels the need to do it twice aswell. If I was ever stupid enough to run onto the pitch and celebrate and that tosser did that to me, knowing a ban would be heading my way already I’d of atleast made the ban worthwhile and give that steward his comeuppance. Seeing him drag someone like that not once but twice is shocking, dangerous to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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