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The question is "would he have done that to a home fan?

I know the answer and we all do.

I would have loved our players to go over and confront the cock

Yes, it's wrong to go onto a pitch  but there is the Grealish type thing and there is joyous celebrating ffs

 

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14 hours ago, Vil1 said:

Yet again all winging about a fan being dragged of the pitch.but when it kicked off in our ground with swansea you all asking for bans.put their pictures in paper etc.and all happy that one of our fans was jailed!!!! What exactly do you want ??! So this fan/ fans running on pitch was ok.but do it at the gate and you all winging big time .make your minds up.

Two totally different scenarios 

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14 hours ago, Vil1 said:

Yet again all winging about a fan being dragged of the pitch.but when it kicked off in our ground with swansea you all asking for bans.put their pictures in paper etc.and all happy that one of our fans was jailed!!!! What exactly do you want ??! So this fan/ fans running on pitch was ok.but do it at the gate and you all winging big time .make your minds up.

Tbh, if you are referring to Mr. Greenslade in terms of the fan who was jailed, well he seemingly had previous at football within relatively recent times- 2013 Bristol derby, he had appeared in court about 5 years ago.

Whether the 2013 sentence, punishment was justified is a different debate, but he had a suspended sentence that was handed down in 2014. Incredible he would be a recidivist in such a short timescale- admittedly the timespan for the suspended sentence to be implemented had explored, but it definitely would have been taken into account surely. The actions (note I am not referring to him as one- he may well be very sharp and just do daft things), of an idiot at best unfortunately.

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I think all the fans that went on to the pitch ,against Man U last year ,should get their doors bashed in at   5 in the morning and be dragged away in a headlock.It’s was they deserve.

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2 hours ago, matalan12 said:

does no one see the difference in offence to running on celebrating a goal, and running on to assault a player. clearly the intentions are quite different, so does the punishment really need to be the same? little bit of common sense is all thats needed...

When you see someone running on to the pitch how do you know what his intentions are?

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27 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

Two totally different scenarios 

Correct.

Yeah, he shouldn't have gone on the pitch, but headlock? Well OTT. Armlock or arm up behind the back a more appropriate restraint technique in this instance I'd suggest.

As you say, the 2 scenarios were totally different- and as for the jailed fan, it is quite plausible unless it was 2 of the same name- @harrys seemed to suggest it was the same one-he had previous in recent times which would help to explain the custodial sentence.

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On 31/03/2019 at 02:01, BCFC101 said:

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Hardly a surprise after the whole Grealish situation, far too heavy handed but had that same guy made it onto the pitch and struck a player everyone would be saying "Why didn't the steward stop him?". Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

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1 hour ago, Big C said:

When you see someone running on to the pitch how do you know what his intentions are?

I'm guessing the fact that he ran out of the away fans and was jumping up and down like a lunatic cuddling the away players sort of gave it away that he meant no harm on this occasion?

He's celebrating with the players for around 4-5 seconds before the steward gets his hands on him. More than enough time to realise his intentions were harmless!

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Just now, HIGHRIDGE BCFC said:

I'm guessing the fact that he ran out of the away fans and was jumping up and down like a lunatic cuddling the players sort of gave it away that he meant no harm on this occasion?

He's celebrating with the players for around 4-5 seconds before the steward gets his hands on him. More than enough time to realise his intentions were harmless!

Tell that to both Chris Kirkland and Chris Smalling who were both assaulted by celebrating fans!

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Just now, Big C said:

Tell that to both Chris Kirkland and Chris Smalling who were both assaulted by celebrating fans!

Kirkland was the home keeper and the fan ran from the away end.

Smalling was the away player and the fan came from the home end.

This fan was from the away end and was celebrating with the away players.

Totally a different situation than your examples and clearly you could see he meant no harm from his behaviour!

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16 hours ago, Super said:

I dont think it was dangerous.

I’m guessing you’re not a medical professional? (I’m not either)

 

That was highly dangerous and although I wholeheartedly agree the guy on the pitch was a numpty and should be punished, but that was awful.

 

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12 minutes ago, HIGHRIDGE BCFC said:

Kirkland was the home keeper and the fan ran from the away end.

Smalling was the away player and the fan came from the home end.

This fan was from the away end and was celebrating with the away players.

Totally a different situation than your examples and clearly you could see he meant no harm from his behaviour!

What difference does that make?  Smalling was attacked in the middle of the pitch. No one could tell what is idiot would have done next if he wasn’t restrained 

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6 minutes ago, Big C said:

What difference does that make?  Smalling was attacked in the middle of the pitch. No one could tell what is idiot would have done next if he wasn’t restrained 

You're honestly telling me you can't see the difference in the Smalling incident and this one?

The City fan is clearly jumping up and down and celebrating with the players after we've scored.

His behaviour is nothing like the other 2 examples. Surely you can see that?

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Just don’t go on the pitch at all. 

 

No confusion then as to whether you will be arrested , charged, put in a headlock, stadium ban  etc, just simply don’t go on the pitch . 

It really isn’t difficult , 99% of the rest of the crowd managed it. 

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3 minutes ago, HIGHRIDGE BCFC said:

You're honestly telling me you can't see the difference in the Smalling incident and this one?

The City fan is clearly jumping up and down and celebrating with the players after we've scored.

His behaviour is nothing like the other 2 examples. Surely you can see that?

It doesn’t matter what was seen. Nobody can guess what he would do next. Probably nothing but possibly something 

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6 minutes ago, JulieH said:

Just don’t go on the pitch at all. 

 

No confusion then as to whether you will be arrested , charged, put in a headlock, stadium ban  etc, just simply don’t go on the pitch . 

It really isn’t difficult , 99% of the rest of the crowd managed it. 

It must be too simple for some...

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3 minutes ago, HIGHRIDGE BCFC said:

He didn't need to guess.

He can clearly see him celebrating with the players for 5 seconds before he gets him round the throat.

And what would he have done after those 5 seconds?

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Correct.

Yeah, he shouldn't have gone on the pitch, but headlock? Well OTT. Armlock or arm up behind the back a more appropriate restraint technique in this instance I'd suggest.

As you say, the 2 scenarios were totally different- and as for the jailed fan, it is quite plausible unless it was 2 of the same name- @harrys seemed to suggest it was the same one-he had previous in recent times which would help to explain the custodial sentence.

Trust me, it was one and the same person

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Given the past few weeks, where fans had been jumping onto the pitch and punching/pushing players, I quite frankly don't give a **** how fans are treated if they jump the barriers and try to run towards the players.

There are more effective ways of subduing a person, but I can see what the steward was trying to do, at least. They wanted to take the person away from the pitch and outside without disrupting the game, and while it was overly aggressive, they did just that.

Frankly, I'd rather see a steward drag some *** off the pitch by their neck than see a fan jump onto the pitch and fatally injure a player.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Yeah- I'll take your word for it! Thanks.

My cautious approach and caveats have been because I did not wish to inadvertently accuse, conflate etc- legal reasons and that.

It’s a shame because he’s been a massive City fan since his dad took him down as a nipper and they follow their team all over the country

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7 minutes ago, harrys said:

It’s a shame because he’s been a massive City fan since his dad took him down as a nipper and they follow their team all over the country

Yeah, definitely sounds like he is passionate City.

These things can (not saying they should but they can) happen once- and I honestly don't know how his punishment for Bristol derby fitted with the crime...but to get yourself into trouble at football again after a 3 year banning order was it and about 5 and a half years on. In a high profile derby at that!

What can you say.

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1 minute ago, HIGHRIDGE BCFC said:

Yes after thinking about it you're probably right mate. He's bound to have pulled out a big knife and stabbed them all! 

Where did I say that? The fact is nobody knows what he would have done next. Probably nothing but if he had turned round and punched a player/steward/policman or ballboy people would be quite rightly asking why wasn’t he stopped sooner he had been on the pitch for ages. They need to err on the side of caution 

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19 minutes ago, harrys said:

It’s a shame because he’s been a massive City fan since his dad took him down as a nipper and they follow their team all over the country

The passion we all have for our club must always be tempered by respect for the laws of the country. We have so much freedom compared with many countries that it is surely very easy to comply with the restrictions that are imposed on us for our own safety and well being.

 

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3 minutes ago, Big C said:

Where did I say that? The fact is nobody knows what he would have done next. Probably nothing but if he had turned round and punched a player/steward/policman or ballboy people would be quite rightly asking why wasn’t he stopped sooner he had been on the pitch for ages. They need to err on the side of caution 

He's a City fan celebrating with the team. All the steward needed to do was grab him like he's trained to, as the other steward did and escort him off the field.

These no need to get him in a choke hold and drag him off by the throat!

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