Mr Popodopolous Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, 29AR said: I think though the Championship usually - more than most - gets topsy turvy in the end where with 10 games to go the bottom teams seem to go on unspeakable runs. Quite a few poor or hamstrung sides down the bottom this year though- some will pick up shocks results and Rotherham may regain some home form they had earlier in the season but I'd suggest it will be pretty low benchmark to survive this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Quite a few poor or hamstrung sides down the bottom this year though- some will pick up shocks results and Rotherham may regain some home form they had earlier in the season but I'd suggest it will be pretty low benchmark to survive this year... Get in; I'm going to the offy tonight.... Survival party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, 29AR said: Get in; I'm going to the offy tonight.... Survival party. We were safe weeks ago in practice IMO- albeit not mathematically of course. I'd be surprised if much more than 40 pts to survive this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCity Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66 65 64 63 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61 60......Norwich 59 58.....Leeds 57 56 55.....Sheffield United 54 - Highest Points Still RelegatedWest Brom 53.....Bristol City 52 51.....Middlesbrough 50....., Derby 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47 46.....Birmingham, Forest 45..... 44.....Villa, Swansea,Hull 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived....., Blackburn 42 41 40.....Preston,Sheffield Wednesday 39.....QPR, 38.....Stoke 37.....Brentford 36 35 34 33.....Wigan 32 31...Millwall 30..... 29 28...Rotherham 27..... 26.....Reading, Bolton 25 24 23..... 22 21 20 19 18.....Ipswich Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted February 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Ark at this guy stealing my thunder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Ark at this guy stealing my thunder... Thanks for all the hard work @CityCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted February 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said: Thanks for all the hard work @CityCity Run out of reactions but have a verbal like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Ark at this guy stealing my thunder... He's left it all messy as well. Loose commas, stray and irregular sets of ".......". Sort it out Bessex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnCider Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Something bothers me about the Average Needed For Champions being the same as the Highest 2nd Place Points Total. This doesn't make sense in my head. What you have there is the Average Champion Total. I think the actual points needed to be Champion would be much lower and nearer the Average Total for 2nd but a bit higher. Am I making any sense? Assuming the points needed for 1st was 1 point more than 2nd (only been won once by goal difference in 1990) the average points needed for Champion is 87.3 (call it 88). The same goes for 2nd (but I can't be arsed to work it out). I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, CityCity said: Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66 65 64 63 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61 60......Norwich 59 58.....Leeds 57 56 55.....Sheffield United 54 - Highest Points Still RelegatedWest Brom 53.....Bristol City 52 51.....Middlesbrough 50....., Derby 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47 46.....Birmingham, Forest 45..... 44.....Villa, Swansea,Hull 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived....., Blackburn 42 41 40.....Preston,Sheffield Wednesday 39.....QPR, 38.....Stoke 37.....Brentford 36 35 34 33.....Wigan 32 31...Millwall 30..... 29 28...Rotherham 27..... 26.....Reading, Bolton 25 24 23..... 22 21 20 19 18.....Ipswich Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Sooooo essentially what you're saying is.... We're still not technically safe. Sooner we get to that 55 point mark the better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted February 13, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, UREDS_91 said: Sooooo essentially what you're saying is.... We're still not technically safe. Sooner we get to that 55 point mark the better... 55 isn’t a cast iron guarantee..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, OnCider said: Something bothers me about the Average Needed For Champions being the same as the Highest 2nd Place Points Total. This doesn't make sense in my head. What you have there is the Average Champion Total. I think the actual points needed to be Champion would be much lower and nearer the Average Total for 2nd but a bit higher. Am I making any sense? Assuming the points needed for 1st was 1 point more than 2nd (only been won once by goal difference in 1990) the average points needed for Champion is 87.3 (call it 88). The same goes for 2nd (but I can't be arsed to work it out). I'll get my coat. Took me a second to get what you were saying but you are completely right. Think it's just an issue with wording, as there is 'average for survival/top half' etc. the wording has been carried over. I would assume that it is actually representing the average points total by each team to have won the championship (seems to work with the highest and lowest point totals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 11/02/2019 at 13:19, 29AR said: I think though the Championship usually - more than most - gets topsy turvy in the end where with 10 games to go the bottom teams seem to go on unspeakable runs. Is it possible that the removal of the emergency loan option has made it more difficult for those struggling sides to bring a few “gambles” in during Feb / March lines they used to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnCider Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: 55 isn’t a cast iron guarantee..... Using a final table predictor I can currently get everyone apart from Bristol City, Bolton and Ipswich up to at least 67 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 9 hours ago, OnCider said: Something bothers me about the Average Needed For Champions being the same as the Highest 2nd Place Points Total. This doesn't make sense in my head. What you have there is the Average Champion Total. I think the actual points needed to be Champion would be much lower and nearer the Average Total for 2nd but a bit higher. Am I making any sense? Assuming the points needed for 1st was 1 point more than 2nd (only been won once by goal difference in 1990) the average points needed for Champion is 87.3 (call it 88). The same goes for 2nd (but I can't be arsed to work it out). I'll get my coat. Had to give my brain a wobble on this one a little. Kind of agree, but saying it is one more point than whoever finishes second will not always work, as they take points off each other. It gets lost in the season, but say excluding all other results, Team A are second behind Team B on goal difference bar one result between them. To be Champions, they would have had to win that game and the title by three points compared to second place. Even a team that wins the title by a stackful, if you say the real number of points they needed was much less, those points would have had to go somewhere else, which could affect the other numbers. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCity Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66 65 64 63 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61......Leeds 60......Norwich 59 58......Sheffield United 57 56 55 54 - Highest Points Still RelegatedWest Brom 53.......Bristol City 52 51........Middlesbrough,Derby 50 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47 46.......Birmingham, Forest 45 44........Villa, Swansea,Hull 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived.....Blackburn, Preston 42 41 40......Sheffield Wednesday, Brentford 39......QPR, Stoke 38 37 36 35 34.....Wigan 33 32 31.....Millwall 30 29......Reading 28......Rotherham 27 26......Bolton 25 24 23 22 21 20 19......Ipswich 18 Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnCider Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 12 hours ago, cityexile said: Had to give my brain a wobble on this one a little. Kind of agree, but saying it is one more point than whoever finishes second will not always work, as they take points off each other. It gets lost in the season, but say excluding all other results, Team A are second behind Team B on goal difference bar one result between them. To be Champions, they would have had to win that game and the title by three points compared to second place. Even a team that wins the title by a stackful, if you say the real number of points they needed was much less, those points would have had to go somewhere else, which could affect the other numbers. I think. Yeah you're right. I hadn't thought of that. I hate stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 15:30, Davefevs said: Is it possible that the removal of the emergency loan option has made it more difficult for those struggling sides to bring a few “gambles” in during Feb / March lines they used to? great point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 13:24, BessexRED said: Ark at this guy stealing my thunder... Say what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCity Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66 65 64 63....Norwich 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61......Leeds, Sheffield United 60 59 58 57....West Brom 56 55 54 - Highest Points Still Relegated Middlesbrough 53.......Bristol City 52 51........Derby 50 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47....Forest 46.......Birmingham, 45 44........Villa, Swansea,Hull, Preston 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived.....Blackburn 42 41....Sheffield Wednesday 40......Brentford, Stoke 39......QPR 38 37 36 35 34.....Wigan 33 32 31.....Millwall 30 29......Reading, Rotherham 28 27 26......Bolton 25 24 23 22 21 20......Ipswich 19 18 Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCity Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66 65 64 63....Norwich(33) 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61......Leeds(32), Sheffield United(33) 60.....West Brom(33) 59 58 57 56 55 54 - Highest Points Still Relegated Middlesbrough(32) 53.......Bristol City(31) 52 51........Derby(32) 50 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47.......Forest(33) 46.......Birmingham(32) 45 44........Villa(33), Swansea(32),Hull(32), Preston(33) 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived.....Blackburn(33) 42 41....Sheffield Wednesday(32) 40......Brentford(31), Stoke(33) 39......QPR(32) 38 37 36 35 34.....Wigan(32),Millwall(32) 33 32 31 30 29......Reading(33), Rotherham(33) 28 27 26......Bolton(33) 25 24 23 22 21 20......Ipswich(33) 19 18 Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted February 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, CityCity said: Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66 65 64 63....Norwich(33) 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61......Leeds(32), Sheffield United(33) 60.....West Brom(33) 59 58 57 56 55 54 - Highest Points Still Relegated Middlesbrough(32) 53.......Bristol City(31) 52 51........Derby(32) 50 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47.......Forest(33) 46.......Birmingham(32) 45 44........Villa(33), Swansea(32),Hull(32), Preston(33) 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived.....Blackburn(33) 42 41....Sheffield Wednesday(32) 40......Brentford(31), Stoke(33) 39......QPR(32) 38 37 36 35 34.....Wigan(32),Millwall(32) 33 32 31 30 29......Reading(33), Rotherham(33) 28 27 26......Bolton(33) 25 24 23 22 21 20......Ipswich(33) 19 18 Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Stop updating it after single fixtures, do it at the end of a gameweek. People stop reading it with interest if you’re posting it every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 So using 74 points as the play-off standard... If Birmingham in 9th manage 2 points per game (promotion form), they would just make the 74 points. Apply the same form to Forest in 8th and they finish just short on 73 points. So both Forest and Brum need serious form to have a chance of typical play-off totals. Derby need 1.6 points per game for the 74, which is tricky on their current form. Plus we can impact that at Ashton Gate. We need 1.4 points per game which is fairly mid-table form. Even if we lose to Norwich, we would need only 1.5 points per game. Our superior goal difference, although marginal, could act as an extra point over Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Fifth and sixth spot are between us, boro and Derby, anything better its too early to tell. Of the three I honestly bellieve that we are the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Fifth and sixth spot are between us, boro and Derby, anything better its too early to tell. Of the three I honestly bellieve that we are the better team. Boro have a more experiences squad and a more experienced manager. Their manager's track record indicates that they are unlikely to give much away and it is less likely that they will fall away than Derby. However, there will be a lot of pressure on 'Boro, as I think I'm right in saying they lose parachute payments this season. They have already sold players, and failing again could see them having to sell more players to balance the books, making promotion next season even tougher. Derby have a more experienced squad but a vastly less experienced manager - that is, he is hugely experienced as a player, but not as a manager. Their form seems to have suffered/disappeared over the last 2-3 months and their fans are not happy with the way things are going currently, and some already feel they have blown their chances. Has Frank Lampard got the ability to lift and re-group his players for the run in? He does not appear to have been able to do so since the turn of the year, in a way reminiscent of the slumps in form we saw under LJ in two previous seasons, and the pressure on Lampard & Derby will be huge. We have a relatively young squad and manager ( head coach) many of whom have experienced massive highs and massive lows in the last 2-3 seasons. As a result of those experiences, the team is now showing a resilience, togetherness and spirit that could well be the difference between them and one, or both, of Boro and Derby making the play offs. The biggest difference this season is our defensive strength and solidity, which is the reason I don't think we will fade/collapse over the remainder of the season ( hope I haven't jinxed our chances!!) I think the crucial thing will be maintaining our momentum. Not that I expect us to keep winning every game, or to maintain the unbeaten run, but to keep the points ticking over. As another poster suggested we need to maintain an average of 1.5 points per game to hit 74 points, so a win and loss ever 2 games would do the job, which means losing at, say Norwich would not be a disaster in itself. The Major may well be able to afford to retire to the Maldives with sales of his SBO over the next couple of months, so strap yourselves in for what I'm sure will be a bumpy and exciting ride! P.S. Mrs Downend saw me type that last sentence and thought I was emailing her, so is whipping off her support tights and putting her teeth in to soak in anticipation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 16 hours ago, downendcity said: Boro have a more experiences squad and a more experienced manager. Their manager's track record indicates that they are unlikely to give much away and it is less likely that they will fall away than Derby. However, there will be a lot of pressure on 'Boro, as I think I'm right in saying they lose parachute payments this season. They have already sold players, and failing again could see them having to sell more players to balance the books, making promotion next season even tougher. Derby have a more experienced squad but a vastly less experienced manager - that is, he is hugely experienced as a player, but not as a manager. Their form seems to have suffered/disappeared over the last 2-3 months and their fans are not happy with the way things are going currently, and some already feel they have blown their chances. Has Frank Lampard got the ability to lift and re-group his players for the run in? He does not appear to have been able to do so since the turn of the year, in a way reminiscent of the slumps in form we saw under LJ in two previous seasons, and the pressure on Lampard & Derby will be huge. We have a relatively young squad and manager ( head coach) many of whom have experienced massive highs and massive lows in the last 2-3 seasons. As a result of those experiences, the team is now showing a resilience, togetherness and spirit that could well be the difference between them and one, or both, of Boro and Derby making the play offs. The biggest difference this season is our defensive strength and solidity, which is the reason I don't think we will fade/collapse over the remainder of the season ( hope I haven't jinxed our chances!!) I think the crucial thing will be maintaining our momentum. Not that I expect us to keep winning every game, or to maintain the unbeaten run, but to keep the points ticking over. As another poster suggested we need to maintain an average of 1.5 points per game to hit 74 points, so a win and loss ever 2 games would do the job, which means losing at, say Norwich would not be a disaster in itself. The Major may well be able to afford to retire to the Maldives with sales of his SBO over the next couple of months, so strap yourselves in for what I'm sure will be a bumpy and exciting ride! P.S. Mrs Downend saw me type that last sentence and thought I was emailing her, so is whipping off her support tights and putting her teeth in to soak in anticipation! Agree with all of that, and partically excited at the thought of the support tights........ I think boro will , as a Pulis team, draw too many of their remaining matches, whilst Derby are remarkably like us last year, there form has been poor for some time now, and i could see them sinking to mid table. As to City, clearly we miss a 20 goal a season striker, but we do have a squad with depth and also , unlike Derby and boro the ability to change systems quickly when plan A isn't working. Anyway, back to the support tights, do they do them in a fishnet style ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCity Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 22 hours ago, BessexRED said: Stop updating it after single fixtures, do it at the end of a gameweek. People stop reading it with interest if you’re posting it every day. Sorry! I didn't realise you wrote the forum rules and people were required to read with interest. I'll make sure i listen to your wise words moving forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciudad Bristol Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/championship-predicted-final-table-title-2565906 The predicted Championship table Norwich City 92 West Brom 87 Sheffield United 84 Leeds United 83 Middlesbrough 81 Bristol City 76 Derby County 74 Nottingham Forest 73 Birmingham City 67 Swansea City 65 Hull City 64 Brentford 63 READ MORE Bristol City fans react to season ticket price announcement Blackburn Rovers 62 Preston 61 Aston Villa 60 Sheffield Wednesday 59 Stoke City 55 QPR 52 Wigan Athletic 51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCity Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66.....Norwich(34) 65 64....Leeds(33), Sheffield United(34) 63 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61 60.....West Brom(34) 59 58 57....Middlesbrough(33) 56 55 54 - Highest Points Still Relegated 53.......Bristol City(32) 52 51........Derby(33) 50........Forest(34) 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47.......Birmingham(33) ,Preston(34) 46 45.......Villa(34) 44........ Swansea(33),Hull(33), Blackburn(34), Sheffield Wednesday(33) 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived.....Brentford(32) 42 41.... Stoke(34) 40 39......QPR(33) 38 37 36 35.....Wigan(33) 34.....Millwall(33) 33 32 31 30.....Reading(34), Rotherham(34) 29 28 27 26......Bolton(33) 25 24 23 22 21.....Ipswich(33) 20 19 18 Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 hours ago, CityCity said: Updated 106 - Highest Champions Points Total 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 - Average Needed for Champions + Highest 2nd Place Points Total 92 91 90 89 - Highest 3rd Place Points Total 88 87 - Average Needed For 2nd 86 85 84 83 82 81 - Lowest Champions Points Total 80 79 - Lowest 2nd Place Total 78 - Highest 7th Place Points Total 77 76 75 74 - Average Needed for Play-Offs 73 72 71 70 69 68 - Lowest Play-off Position Total 67 66.....Norwich(34) 65 64....Leeds(33), Sheffield United(34) 63 62 - Average Needed for Top Half 61 60.....West Brom(34) 59 58 57....Middlesbrough(33) 56 55 54 - Highest Points Still Relegated 53.......Bristol City(32) 52 51........Derby(33) 50........Forest(34) 49 - Average Needed for Survival 48 47.......Birmingham(33) ,Preston(34) 46 45.......Villa(34) 44........ Swansea(33),Hull(33), Blackburn(34), Sheffield Wednesday(33) 43 - Lowest Points Total Survived.....Brentford(32) 42 41.... Stoke(34) 40 39......QPR(33) 38 37 36 35.....Wigan(33) 34.....Millwall(33) 33 32 31 30.....Reading(34), Rotherham(34) 29 28 27 26......Bolton(33) 25 24 23 22 21.....Ipswich(33) 20 19 18 Key: Blue - Champions Green - 2nd Place Purple - Playoffs Orange - Top Half Red - Relegation Can you update this live tonight....just want to see @BessexRED‘s rage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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