Port Said Red Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I wonder what odds you would have got on Webster outscoring Flint this season? I was given short shrift a couple of times at the start of the season, when I said that selling Aden was good business and that we had seen the best of his career. I continue to stand by that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I wonder what odds you would have got on Webster outscoring Flint this season? I was given short shrift a couple of times at the start of the season, when I said that selling Aden was good business and that we had seen the best of his career. I continue to stand by that statement. Don't think you were alone in thinking or saying that PSR, although looking back it's difficult to imagine how many felt we were almost doomed at losing Flint in particular. I've said before that Webster reminds me so much of Gary Collier from our 1st division team, and he was just about the best centre back Ive seen in a City shirt. A strong defender, but with that extra bit of class on the ball and bringing the ball out of defence. Perhaps we've been lucky in having Kalas alongside him to help him settle in quickly and form such a strong partnership, but Webster has the ability to make it on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 The evolution of man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: The evolution of man!!! No man has evolved to be an Adam El-Abd, that's the starting block of evolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I wonder what odds you would have got on Webster outscoring Flint this season? I was given short shrift a couple of times at the start of the season, when I said that selling Aden was good business and that we had seen the best of his career. I continue to stand by that statement. You certainly weren’t alone in that thinking and I’m sure that plenty voiced agreement with you back then. People weren’t too concerned about Bryan, because of Kelly and pre Dasilva. Bobby was the big miss, but our improved defence has made that less of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: No man has evolved to be an Adam El-Abd, that's the starting block of evolution Surely he’d have been (very shortly) after the Ape..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Bar BS3 said: Surely he’d have been (very shortly) after the Ape..? I reckon the gorilla's at bristol zoo would be better defenders than him. That graph is incredibly harsh on Fontaine, who despite being crap for the majority of his spell here was nowhere near as crap as El-Abd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Surely he’d have been (very shortly) after the Ape..? little known fact, but El-Abd is Egyptian for ‘the ape’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Greedo said: little known fact, but El-Abd is Egyptian for ‘the ape’ I didn’t know that. I stopped my research after discovering that in some parts of Asia, “Darrell Clarke” translated to “Dog manual manipulator” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: I reckon the gorilla's at bristol zoo would be better defenders than him. That graph is incredibly harsh on Fontaine, who despite being crap for the majority of his spell here was nowhere near as crap as El-Abd... It was more a representative time-line, rather than defensive capabilities per se. There was no similar picture of McManus so went for Fontaine (who I liked until his catastrophic dip in form). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just think that our starting centre back partnership used to be Lewin Nyatanga and Liam Fontaine.... Last time I heard Nyatanga was working as a personal trainer whilst still being at prime centre back age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Davefevs said: It was more a representative time-line, rather than defensive capabilities per se. There was no similar picture of McManus so went for Fontaine (who I liked until his catastrophic dip in form). Is the 2nd guy mcmanus? I honestly have no recollection of who it might be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Is the 2nd guy mcmanus? I honestly have no recollection of who it might be No, Hunt...a right back I know, but you get the gist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Davefevs said: No, Hunt...a right back I know, but you get the gist. Ah nicky hunt I knew there would be a reason why I'd forgotten who it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Didn't El-Abd have a fist fight with Cotterill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 El-Abd scored for bury at the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 As suggested by the shrewd amongst us, getting rid of Aden Flint was the best thing we could have ever done. @BobBobSuperBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: I soon forgot about Flint when I heard we signed Webster. Far better player. indeed, cultured..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Ok, I liked Flint and thought we would miss his goals. But on the flip side I thought we had got far too predictable at set pieces and corners, everything was always aimed at him and he would tend to strop if it didn’t. Often we would be caught out as he then had to hurry to get back in position as teams swiftly got the ball upfield to take advantage of this. I also thought he had too much say in the dressing room at times. Until the rebuild he centred himself in the room so he was seen and heard by all, overpowering lots of players. Yes we needed strong leaders but when it was his way or he would be moody that isn’t good. I guess until I saw the class of Webster I didn’t really appreciate the weaknesses Flint has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Flint any day for me.....I named my dog Flinty and i don't live in Clifton so can't call him Webster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 hours ago, JBFC II said: I reckon the gorilla's at bristol zoo would be better defenders than him. That graph is incredibly harsh on Fontaine, who despite being crap for the majority of his spell here was nowhere near as crap as El-Abd... Fontaine certainly wasn’t crap for the “majority”. Lost his form and became the scapegoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: The evolution of man!!! Bit unfair putting Fontaine first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 hours ago, marcofisher said: Just think that our starting centre back partnership used to be Lewin Nyatanga and Liam Fontaine.... Last time I heard Nyatanga was working as a personal trainer whilst still being at prime centre back age! Such an amazing athlete, terrible concentration and reading of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, RedM said: Ok, I liked Flint and thought we would miss his goals. But on the flip side I thought we had got far too predictable at set pieces and corners, everything was always aimed at him and he would tend to strop if it didn’t. Often we would be caught out as he then had to hurry to get back in position as teams swiftly got the ball upfield to take advantage of this. I also thought he had too much say in the dressing room at times. Until the rebuild he centred himself in the room so he was seen and heard by all, overpowering lots of players. Yes we needed strong leaders but when it was his way or he would be moody that isn’t good. I guess until I saw the class of Webster I didn’t really appreciate the weaknesses Flint has. Interesting angle. Was he that domineering? I thought him and Marlon were a double act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 The Flint out, Webster in deal has to be the apogee of the Bristol Sport 5 pillars this-is-how-we-do-it-now buy-young-sell-at-max-value-replace-repeat thing/dream thus far? Buying and selling Kodjia for a tidy profit in such a short space of time probably was previously but that was Cotts, so doesn't count really. It's difficult to see Flint improving now, whereas Webster has time to do so. Prepare for more wailing and gnashing of teeth this summer as Webster is sold this summer to .... the highest bidder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: The Flint out, Webster in deal has to be the apogee of the Bristol Sport 5 pillars this-is-how-we-do-it-now buy-young-sell-at-max-value-replace-repeat thing/dream thus far? Buying and selling Kodjia for a tidy profit in such a short space of time probably was previously but that was Cotts, so doesn't count really. It's difficult to see Flint improving now, whereas Webster has time to do so. Prepare for more wailing and gnashing of teeth this summer as Webster is sold this summer to .... the highest bidder.... and if he is sold, it would be for three times the amount we paid for him, he's a better player the flint and has age on his side, he'll be in the prem before long, reminds me of Jagielka when he was at sheffield united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 8 hours ago, JBFC II said: I reckon the gorilla's at bristol zoo would be better defenders than him. That graph is incredibly harsh on Fontaine, who despite being crap for the majority of his spell here was nowhere near as crap as El-Abd... Fontaine was excellent for the majority of his career here , let’s not rewrite history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Greedo said: little known fact, but El-Abd is Egyptian for ‘the ape’ Wrong , it’s very well known in Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Which begs the question that if we lose Webster in the summer, how many would have Flint back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Fontaine was excellent for the majority of his career here , let’s not rewrite history. He was here 2006-2014. It was around 09-10 season that he started to drop off. That's certainly not the majority of his time here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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