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Septic Peg

Aston Villa v Bristol City Match Day 41

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6 minutes ago, Spike said:

Insanely frustrating game, we played well but ultimately that penalty decision cost us points.

Not only the pen but the ref who showed more yellow than a  Dutch daffodil field . 

Our key players , Hunt , Pack and Taylor had to be careful to avoid tulip red . 

That said I’m sure we can Gouda distance. 

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Totaly gutted two massive decisions weimans goal chalked off and a ludicrus pen city would never in amillion years been given a penalty for that and i doubt very much the goal would of been chalked off  had villa scored 100% gutless spineless refereeing

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Think that LJ failed to combat Villa's 4-4-2-1 formation!

In other news,  Scott Duncan is the Chairman of the panel looking into Villa's ffp figures.

 

6 minutes ago, JackofromSanJavier said:

Wow, just…..wow.  That ref was the Villa 12th man. I've watched footie for  nearly 60 years and today's custodian of the whistle is the most suspect I've ever had the misfortune to see.  Fair play, he was consistent.  Villa lad goes down?  Free kick every time.  City player gets knocked through the middle of his back or ankles clipped……… horse on Villa.  BENT, BENT, BENT.  No ref can be that poor without being weighed down by a brown envelope.  Frustrating as hell, but they're a BIG team and we're just 'Bristol'.

If we'd had refs "supporting" us like this, we would still be on our winning run and challenging for an auto promotion spot!

If that penalty establishes a benchmark, then I look forward to the amount of free kicks and penalties that Famara will win and the number of yellow and red cards that opposition defenders will    have to be given for similar offences.

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Some good performances particularly from Max but very sloppy at times. Can't expect to win a game with only one shot on target. Have to beat Reading on Friday and secure 6th place over the next few games. Ref was hopeless never a pen.

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10 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Looking at the next games, Derby have a tough away trip to Birmingham, and Middlesborough have Stoke, not a forgone conclusion that Derby and Middlesborough will win, and I think they would both take our home game with Reading instead!

Our problem will be the expectation that we will beat Reading and that will be no formality 

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2 minutes ago, Robin Wood said:

Our problem will be the expectation that we will beat Reading and that will be no formality 

And the fact that we are home!

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4 minutes ago, pillred said:

very strange, like coming home early finding the postman in bed with your Mrs and giving him a round of applause.

He’d deserve it with mine ! 

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3 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said:

Referee should be fined for his display 

Sod's law, his "reward" will to be given our game against Frank Lampard's Derby!

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1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said:

Villa fans raving about O'Leary.

They reckon he'll get pinched by a bigger club in the summer.

They obviously didn't see him play v West Brom!  All joking aside, he’s young and inexperienced, talk like this is rediculous 

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watching a stream of the game oleary was our man of match villa created loads of chances the penalty looked disgusting  fammys was a good finish here comes the madness of an easter weekend if we win friday we go to sheffield wednesday in the play offs

 

 

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All I can say about that is, we were well and truly shafted by the officials today, to me it was bordering match fixing, the Ref was THAT bad! 2 of the SEVEN yellows our players received not including the other 2 for Macca and Holden were deserved but the rest were a joke, McGinn should of got another yellow in the 1st half but shock horror the Ref wasn’t at all interested, their time wasting went totally unpunished, kicking the ball away again not interested, not because it was City and me being biased but that was the most one sided Reffereing performance I have ever witnessed.

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2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Villa fans raving about O'Leary.

They reckon he'll get pinched by a bigger club in the summer.

We can be immensely  proud of Max but some of his worldies Maenpaa wouldn’t need to make . 

The lad is very much a work in progress and needs to come out more for crosses .

A big well done to MOL though . Keep it going.

 

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3 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Sod's law, his "reward" will to be given our game against Frank Lampard's Derby!

Have we just played "Scott Duncan's Aston Villa"? 🤔

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2 minutes ago, 77 punk said:

watching a stream of the game oleary was our man of match villa created loads of chances the penalty looked disgusting  fammys was a good finish here comes the madness of an easter weekend if we win friday we go to sheffield wednesday in the play offs

 

 

They had tons of space and really could have had a hat full. Was pretty tight up to the penalty.

We were not at our best and the formation did not really work, but hells bells the ref was so one eyed it was laughable. Villa are a good side, and they really do not need that help. We should all be applauding Max now for saving us a point.

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I keep hearing they deserved to win because Max was outstanding...  :laugh:

Weird logic, because you wouldn't say that about a striker having a great game.

Last time i noticed, the keeper was a part of the team just the same.

No, shocking officials cost us today.

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3 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said:

I don't think we would have been given that penalty decision.

One of our players would have been booked for overreaction!

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The turning point in the match was the pen. Looked very dodgy! No disgrace today. Max played a blinder. Good for his confidence. Great support. Villa strangely mute until they scored. Amazing to hear a pin drop in a 40k crowd!

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13 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

All I can say about that is, we were well and truly shafted by the officials today, to me it was bordering match fixing, the Ref was THAT bad! 2 of the SEVEN yellows our players received not including the other 2 for Macca and Holden were deserved but the rest were a joke, McGinn should of got another yellow in the 1st half but shock horror the Ref wasn’t at all interested, their time wasting went totally unpunished, kicking the ball away again not interested, not because it was City and me being biased but that was the most one sided Reffereing performance I have ever witnessed.

If that game was played in Italy that ref would be accused and investigated for match fixing.An appalling one sided performance that gave Villa the lift they needed while we were on top coupled with the absurd yellows he dished out.

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2 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said:

If that game was played in Italy that ref would be accused and investigated for match fixing.An appalling one sided performance that gave Villa the lift they needed while we were on top coupled with the absurd yellows he dished out.

Agreed, I could not believe what I was seeing, penalty swung the game for sure. My complaint would already be on its way to the FA if I was LJ.

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Elghazi was very good , I kept having mental images of Carry On up the Khyber every time I heard his name.

Villa just had a helping hand today but they are a good side even missing some of their top players.

We weren’t disgraced and just need to take it out on Reading !

 

 

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Penalty decision was poor yes , I had good view and player was backing in and went down . Changed momentum of the game . However Taylor should have seen red  for a bad tackle from behind . For the rest yes ref was giving strange decisions but there have been worse .

Max made 4 stunning saves and Villa hit the post , they had a lot of string chances . We had less , could have scored more ourselves . Hey look at their squad . I don’t think we should feel too down , this was always going to be a tough one . We know where we are missing some options and quality . Out big game will be Derby I guess . We are in the mix with 5 games to go and that is excellent . 

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6 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Penalty decision was poor yes , I had good view and player was backing in and went down . Changed momentum of the game . However Taylor should have seen red  for a bad tackle from behind . For the rest yes ref was giving strange decisions but there have been worse .

Max made 4 stunning saves and Villa hit the post , they had a lot of string chances . We had less , could have scored more ourselves . Hey look at their squad . I don’t think we should feel too down , this was always going to be a tough one . We know where we are missing some options and quality . Out big game will be Derby I guess . We are in the mix with 5 games to go and that is excellent . 

I was there’s and Matty’s foul was never a red, tripped him up only and rightfully picked up a yellow card. 

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21 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said:

If that game was played in Italy that ref would be accused and investigated for match fixing.An appalling one sided performance that gave Villa the lift they needed while we were on top coupled with the absurd yellows he dished out.

No way, at least in Serie A: Rubentus doesn't allow investigations about matches. In Serie B, maybe...

 

That being said...yeah, the decision making was really one-sided, so I can understand why so many fans are angered: you are not used to unbalanced refereeings. 😗

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Elsewhere....

Quite some game at the Stadium of Light

Ipswich relegated

Yeovil in a precarious position

Barton disgraces himself 

Huge defeat for Cardiff 

 

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31 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

My BCFC RB cut out at 17:30 so didn't hear any reaction from LJ

No quotes on the BBC report either, only their manager.

Wondering if he was cooling down or something

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1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said:

I keep hearing they deserved to win because Max was outstanding...  :laugh:

Weird logic, because you wouldn't say that about a striker having a great game.

Last time i noticed, the keeper was a part of the team just the same.

No, shocking officials cost us today.

Completely agree. For some reason people seem to think that the team that creates the most chances is the one that deserves to win the game. But it’s all about taking them, and if our goalkeeper was able to deny them and their strikers were not able to convert, then they haven’t demonstrated the necessary skill to win the game.

The penalty clearly made a critical difference to the outcome and therefore we have every right to feel aggrieved.

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Aston villa won the European Cup in 1982. At the same time, we were bankrupt in division 4. Now their fans are crying on social media because nobody thinks it was a penalty. 

Oh how the mighty have fallen. 

And I work in Birmingham 😫

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2nd best second half after it could have been 2-2 first half.

They turned it up second half and their winger in particular caused all sorts of problems. Houriha could have had a hat trick.

Credit to O'Leary after all the talk being he was the weak link, he stopped a repeat of last season.

You want to get something out of Villa, like Weimann said, you need to score twice. One goal on target and not good enough. No shame in that.

23 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Completely agree. For some reason people seem to think that the team that creates the most chances is the one that deserves to win the game. But it’s all about taking them, and if our goalkeeper was able to deny them and their strikers were not able to convert, then they haven’t demonstrated the necessary skill to win the game.

The penalty clearly made a critical difference to the outcome and therefore we have every right to feel aggrieved.

They created the most chances and took them? 

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21 minutes ago, Rapax said:

 

They created the most chances and took them? 

They took a chance and they were handed a penalty. Quite literally! 

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Oh dear how sad what a shame

 

Sad over-emotional remark you've either been on the Tennents Super all day or your suffering from an austere bout of myopia

 

Was the referee culpable for Bristol mustering 1 attempt on target or should we point the finger at “the lino”

 

 

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3 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

They took a chance and they were handed a penalty. Quite literally! 

I'm lost. They had 5 or 6 gilt edged chances, O'Leary was world class...and they scored more...yet they didn't deserve the win?

They're a cut above. We worked hard and competed for large spells, but 2nd half they were just better. It happens.

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7 minutes ago, Rapax said:

I'm lost. They had 5 or 6 gilt edged chances, O'Leary was world class...and they scored more...yet they didn't deserve the win?

They're a cut above. We worked hard and competed for large spells, but 2nd half they were just better. It happens.

They were very good indeed, when their tails were up. Goals change matches, it’s as simple as that.

At times they were insanely good going forward, but equally just about every one of our players got in to a position were they could not make a tackle in case of a second yellow. A neutral might well say they should have won easier in the end, but they won  2-1, becuase of literally being handed a penalty. It was always going to be tough, and the ref made it a lot harder than that. 

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17 minutes ago, Rapax said:

I'm lost. They had 5 or 6 gilt edged chances, O'Leary was world class...and they scored more...yet they didn't deserve the win?

They're a cut above. We worked hard and competed for large spells, but 2nd half they were just better. It happens.

They didn’t deserve the penalty. It wasn’t a penalty Is it that easy to loose you!? 

They are on a good run of results but class above, really. Are you a Villa fan? 

It is about goals and luck at the business end and they got a huge slice. With the pen and Weimanns goal.

Max had a great game it is what he gets paid for bless him and he may be our number one sooner than later  

We go again as LJ says  

 

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4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

They didn’t deserve the penalty. It wasn’t a penalty Is it that easy to loose you!? 

They are on a good run of results but class above, really. Are you a Villa fan? 

It is about goals and luck at the business end and they got a huge slice. With the pen and Weimanns goal.

Max had a great game it is what he gets paid for bless him and he may be our number one sooner than later  

We go again as LJ says  

 

Surely even as fans, we’re allowed to be honest? Villa deserved to win today.

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10 minutes ago, Leveller said:

Surely even as fans, we’re allowed to be honest? Villa deserved to win today.

I am being honest they got a very very very very dodgy pen and scored a goal. We had a very borderline decision go against us in Weimanns goal that would have been a momentum/game changer. 

It seems that some are implying they deserved a dodgy pen for missing all their other chances. 

 

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3 hours ago, Rapax said:

I'm lost. They had 5 or 6 gilt edged chances, O'Leary was world class...and they scored more...yet they didn't deserve the win?

They're a cut above. We worked hard and competed for large spells, but 2nd half they were just better. It happens.

The only reason they scored more is because they were given an appalling penalty decision. It was a crucial decision that had a critical impact on the outcome of the match.

The team that deserves to win is the one that scores the most goals, not the one that creates the most chances. If they haven’t demonstrated the ability to take their chances while our goalkeeper has succeeded in preventing them scoring, then they don’t “deserve” to win the game.

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2 hours ago, Leveller said:

Surely even as fans, we’re allowed to be honest? Villa deserved to win today.

Ref, take note

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