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Match Report: Villa giveth and the ref taketh away


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12 minutes ago, Stortz said:

I always admire the way that, win or lose, Villa fans are still giant *****.

If you don't like what Bristol City fans write on a Bristol City forum, then off you ****.

You live in Birmingham mate, wind your neck in.

You are very childish and typical of a small club mentality.

Nobody claims we have a divine right to the PL - That is just something that is invented on here by idiots like you because it adds value to their silly claims.

I have an opinion, just like you do.  Quite why you think I can't voice it just because you don't like it, further demonstrates your small thinking mentality.

As for your pathetic insults, save them for someone who gives a flying one eh?

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17 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

 We were the better team and even if we hadn't been awarded the penalty, we would have scored eventually.  get over it and stop bleating like a baby, blaming the ref, the EFL and everyone else for your own little team/little budget shortcomings.

“ looks like minimal contact was made but it was no more than Villa deserved and perhaps balanced out the advantage that Bristol had, regarding injured/suspended players and having to play a midweek away game with 10 men”

What an absolute belter you are. so you deserved the penalty decision based on you having players out and having to play a midweek game....ffs, the more I read it the more astounded I am by your stupidity.

you then clearly go into “we are villa” mode with the quoted post....”we would have scored eventually” “ your own little team/little budget shortcomings.”

You tried to be neutral then slipped fully into ex-prem, billy big bollocks mode....the reason why most fans despise clubs like yours. You deserve each other....now **** off

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3 minutes ago, Beni71 said:

I wasn’t at the game but reviewing the match statistics you deserved to win. That said reading match reports it sounds like the officials made some big calls that influenced the result (disallowed goal and ruling out a goal for offside) and have distracted from the Villa performance.

If you call us Bristol you will Bristol city fans backs up. The same way if we called you Birmingham it would get Villa fans back up. 

You have a good manager in Dean Smith. He plays good football and given the quality and money you have spent on the squad anything less than a playoff place would be under achieving. That said spending money doesn’t always guarantee you the rewards. As you well know.

Would be interested in the financial implications if you don’t make promotion this season? Would you be at risk of FFP.

FFP is tight although not as severe as many daydreamers on here seem to think.  If we go down, Grealish will almost certainly be sold which will on it's own get rid of any FFP issues.  Our new owners have been in constant contact with the EFL to ensure that we remain within the constraints of FFP.

Contrary to silly claims on here about David v Goliath yesterday, we fielded 3 loanees, a GK who cost nothing, a RB who cost £1 million, a left back who was given to us along with some money in a player plus cash swap, a midfield that cost around £5 million and a winger who was part of a swap deal for Adama Traore.

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4 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

You are very childish and typical of a small club mentality.

Nobody claims we have a divine right to the PL - That is just something that is invented on here by idiots like you because it adds value to their silly claims.

I have an opinion, just like you do.  Quite why you think I can't voice it just because you don't like it, further demonstrates your small thinking mentality.

As for your pathetic insults, save them for someone who gives a flying one eh?

For me you are a perfect villa fan. So confused, having read your posts it goes from penalty and goal ruled out were unfair, to we win fair and square, all in 20 minutes.  No idea why I am even replying if I’m honest, other than to clarify I hope you don’t go up, and FFP comes home to roost ASAP. 

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2 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

“ looks like minimal contact was made but it was no more than Villa deserved and perhaps balanced out the advantage that Bristol had, regarding injured/suspended players and having to play a midweek away game with 10 men”

What an absolute belter you are. so you deserved the penalty decision based on you having players out and having to play a midweek game....ffs, the more I read it the more astounded I am by your stupidity.

you then clearly go into “we are villa” mode with the quoted post....”we would have scored eventually” “ your own little team/little budget shortcomings.”

You tried to be neutral then slipped fully into ex-prem, billy big bollocks mode....the reason why most fans despise clubs like yours. You deserve each other....now **** off

I have not once mentioned "we are bigger than you" and would not be so crass as to do so.

However, it seems a favourite pass time on here to be little old Bristol, punching above their weight while all and sundry plot against them.

It is you who dish out all the "prem billy big bollocks" nonsense purely because you think it enhances your pathetic arguments.

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2 minutes ago, ciderwithtommy said:

For me you are a perfect villa fan. So confused, having read your posts it goes from penalty and goal ruled out were unfair, to we win fair and square, all in 20 minutes.  No idea why I am even replying if I’m honest, other than to clarify I hope you don’t go up, and FFP comes home to roost ASAP. 

But I didn't say the goal was ruled out unfairly - I said I couldn't tell but it seemed close.

Perhaps if you were able to read properly, you wouldn't get yourself so wound up?

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3 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

You are very childish and typical of a small club mentality.

Nobody claims we have a divine right to the PL - That is just something that is invented on here by idiots like you because it adds value to their silly claims.

I have an opinion, just like you do.  Quite why you think I can't voice it just because you don't like it, further demonstrates your small thinking mentality.

As for your pathetic insults, save them for someone who gives a flying one eh?

You are able to voice an opinion, and by the same token I am able to proffer mine; that you are a typically arrogant, self entitled Villa *****.

Your fans are hated all over the country exactly because of the way you're comporting yourself now.

Please, please **** off.

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Just now, Stortz said:

You are able to voice an opinion, and by the same token I am able to proffer mine; that you are a typically arrogant, self entitled Villa *****.

Your fans are hated all over the country exactly because of the way you're comporting yourself now.

Please, please **** off.

I like being hated all over the country.

Better to be hated than to be ignored.  It makes winning games so much sweeter to know so many no marks are upset by it.

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5 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

FFP is tight although not as severe as many daydreamers on here seem to think.  If we go down, Grealish will almost certainly be sold which will on it's own get rid of any FFP issues.  Our new owners have been in constant contact with the EFL to ensure that we remain within the constraints of FFP.

Contrary to silly claims on here about David v Goliath yesterday, we fielded 3 loanees, a GK who cost nothing, a RB who cost £1 million, a left back who was given to us along with some money in a player plus cash swap, a midfield that cost around £5 million and a winger who was part of a swap deal for Adama Traore.

You still think there's a chance Villa will be relegated? Must admit I can't see it myself. Which is a worry as maybe my lack of sight will propel me onto the shortlist to ref Villa's next home game!

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5 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

I have not once mentioned "we are bigger than you" and would not be so crass as to do so.

However, it seems a favourite pass time on here to be little old Bristol, punching above their weight while all and sundry plot against them.

It is you who dish out all the "prem billy big bollocks" nonsense purely because you think it enhances your pathetic arguments.

"Two nil, on your big day out......" 

Seriously, there can't be many clubs still revelling quite so evidently in something that happened in 1982.

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5 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

I have not once mentioned "we are bigger than you" and would not be so crass as to do so.

However, it seems a favourite pass time on here to be little old Bristol, punching above their weight while all and sundry plot against them.

It is you who dish out all the "prem billy big bollocks" nonsense purely because you think it enhances your pathetic arguments.

Rather than suggesting people can’t read properly, go back over your own posts and tell me you haven’t been giving out the typical ex-prem/“your small club” mentality.

the fact you can’t see it just adds to your total arrogance and lack of class

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3 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

I like being hated all over the country.

Better to be hated than to be ignored.  It makes winning games so much sweeter to know so many no marks are upset by it.

Well done you.

You still live in Birmingham though, you poor bastard.

Unlucky!

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7 minutes ago, italian dave said:

"Two nil, on your big day out......" 

Seriously, there can't be many clubs still revelling quite so evidently in something that happened in 1982.

I couldn’t wait to get back from that slum yesterday.

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13 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

But I didn't say the goal was ruled out unfairly - I said I couldn't tell but it seemed close.

Perhaps if you were able to read properly, you wouldn't get yourself so wound up?

And now you love to be hated!! Hahaha you are such an embodiment of delusion. Not hated, not admired, just nothing. 

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22 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

FFP is tight although not as severe as many daydreamers on here seem to think.  If we go down, Grealish will almost certainly be sold which will on it's own get rid of any FFP issues.  Our new owners have been in constant contact with the EFL to ensure that we remain within the constraints of FFP.

Contrary to silly claims on here about David v Goliath yesterday, we fielded 3 loanees, a GK who cost nothing, a RB who cost £1 million, a left back who was given to us along with some money in a player plus cash swap, a midfield that cost around £5 million and a winger who was part of a swap deal for Adama Traore.

I've been looking into your FFP, likely projected figures etc.

You're fine for 3 years until LAST season, but unless you've slashed the wage bill big time this season, even after excluded items you're likely a fair bit ovrt for the 3 seasons to May 2019.

If EFL enforced their own rules correctly, you would be docked points assuming varied calculations by me, Price of Football, Swiss Ramble and @yorkshireavfc all broadly correct! (Derby and Sheffield Wednesday also in danger) THIS season.

Clubs have to submit projected accounts for the season and I don't really see how Aston Villa's aren't quite a bit- £20-30m- over the 3 year limit even once legitimate exclusions factored out.

 

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25 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

I like being hated all over the country.

Better to be hated than to be ignored.  It makes winning games so much sweeter to know so many no marks are upset by it.

You realise that this is the main symptom of 'Prem Billy Big Bollocks syndrome' right? And just to top it off you manage to find another unnecessarily provocative remark to stick on the end.

I can guarantee you that the fishing rod emoji is top of your recently used list, and well done, you've got some big bites on here. Strange that isn't it, on a Bristol City forum.

The difference is we will move on to Friday and your strange echo chamber will continue to remind us of yesterday's game, just like the 5-0 last season (which I must say you've done very well not to mention so far). It's a shame you're such a bogey side to us for such vile vile people

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49 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

FFP is tight although not as severe as many daydreamers on here seem to think.  If we go down, Grealish will almost certainly be sold which will on it's own get rid of any FFP issues.  Our new owners have been in constant contact with the EFL to ensure that we remain within the constraints of FFP.

Contrary to silly claims on here about David v Goliath yesterday, we fielded 3 loanees, a GK who cost nothing, a RB who cost £1 million, a left back who was given to us along with some money in a player plus cash swap, a midfield that cost around £5 million and a winger who was part of a swap deal for Adama Traore.

At least one loanee who is on 60,000 quid a week ! 

 

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I hate it when fans say things like 'we deserved to be ahead' or 'your goalkeeper kept you in it' to justify poor ref decisions. 

Well you werent in front and i'm pretty sure a goalkeepers job is to keep the ball out the net.

It was 0-0 before the penalty was awarded - Regardless of what had gone before... It was 0-0. Either team could have gone on to win.

Saves, missed chances and even wrongly disallowed goals are all irrelvant in that moment as it was 0-0. And in that moment the ref couldnt wait to point to the spot.

Perhaps villa would have gone on to win comfortably or knick it late on.

Perhaps villa would have got frustrated as they couldn't get it passed max lose their disipline and we go on to knick one in the last minute. 

Perhaps City would have made different subsitutions and the game would have gone a completely different way.

We will never know because apprently the ref thought villa deserved to be ahead as jack grealish was out ill and they had missed a few chances. 

**** off.

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32 minutes ago, PortisheadIsRed said:

You realise that this is the main symptom of 'Prem Billy Big Bollocks syndrome' right? And just to top it off you manage to find another unnecessarily provocative remark to stick on the end.

I can guarantee you that the fishing rod emoji is top of your recently used list, and well done, you've got some big bites on here. Strange that isn't it, on a Bristol City forum.

The difference is we will move on to Friday and your strange echo chamber will continue to remind us of yesterday's game, just like the 5-0 last season (which I must say you've done very well not to mention so far). It's a shame you're such a bogey side to us for such vile vile people

No - The difference is that by Friday, I will have forgotten all about Bristol.  You lot on the other hand will still be bitter, twisted and wrapped up in all of your hatred and dare I say it, jealousy of all things Aston Villa.

 

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We all wondered how Villa would manage when losing their creative spark, Grealish, prior to kick off.

Unfortunately, his late replacement, Scott Duncan, was more than capable, assisting in one of their goals and proving equally adept at the other end by stopping an almost certain goal from Weimann.

 

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7 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

No - The difference is that by Friday, I will have forgotten all about Bristol.  You lot on the other hand will still be bitter, twisted and wrapped up in all of your hatred and dare I say it, jealousy of all things Aston Villa.

 

You've clearly forgotten our name already. We'll see about who's moved on on Friday when our replies on Twitter will be full of Villa fans inevitably giving it large if we lose, concede, have a goal given offside or perhaps even have a player (or assistant coach) booked. Also, how can anyone be jealous of you if you're so proudly hated by all?

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7 minutes ago, anotherdayinparadise said:

No - The difference is that by Friday, I will have forgotten all about Bristol.  You lot on the other hand will still be bitter, twisted and wrapped up in all of your hatred and dare I say it, jealousy of all things Aston Villa.

 

And there we have it, conceited, myopic Villa fans summerised in one post.

We aren't jealous of anything about your shitty club mate, more relieved that we aren't followed by the same level of haunted dildos that you are.

You won't forget about us in a hurry, you drive past us every summer on your way to Weston for your holidays.

And it's Bristol CITY ffs.

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3 hours ago, CityCiderEd said:

Great write up @Olé. I thought Hunt was run ragged by El Ghazi and couldn't believe he kept showing him inside every time he got the ball and was never tight enough. 

Max was superb and MT showed he is much more use as an impact sub than a starter. The early headed chance he missed would have given us the lead our start deserved as they looked shaky at the start

Finally the referee........big team syndrome and totally inept compounded by the most awful penalty decision against us. A homer in every sense of the word.

Hunt did get beat a lot but thought ref influenced this as well with a soft booking end of first half on Hunt. Think he’d have marshalled El Ghazi better without the booking. Also lets be clear El Ghazi is a top talent and was a few years ago was an elite teenager. Still only about 22-23 and I imagine will play most the rest of his career in top flight sides across Europe. 

Agree about Taylor. He is an impact sub at best. I’d look to move him on in the summer. His goals and assist ratios are decent but these tend to be late in games chasing a goal. 

 

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5 hours ago, Olé said:

The Gods giveth and the Gods taketh away: in this case Villa gave and the ref took away. At 2pm Grealish and Kodjia were out and suddenly City had scope to control in form opponents - which for the most part they did, until ref Scott Duncan took over.

From what looked a gift, City found that fortune can quickly change to misfortune, the ref turning in an extraordinary display of home officiating. We'd been the more inventive first half and in control, yet ended up chasing a game we were on top in.

Duncan disallowed a perfectly good goal and awarded a penalty for feeble contact,  a foot up for Villa they never looked back on. True El Ghazi caused lots of problems on our right and O'Leary was stunning in goal, but really only the ref separated us.

Aside from City's disallowed goal it was a direct Villa side - quick balls to the wing - who went closest in the first period, but that cannot take away from a well drilled City that like so many of our away games was in control - until the refs intervention.

Given Villa's absences we went attacking from the off and in the 1st minute Eliasson nicked the ball and found space to run on centrally only to drag a shot wide. A set of scrappy Villa corners added up to little but then both sides exchanged huge chances.

After 10 minutes Matty Taylor, back in the side, steered a header wide right at close range after a City break sprung Eliasson on the left. Two minutes later O'Leary had parried an El Ghazi shot after a left wing cross and Adomah headed onto the post.

By now ref Duncan was already starting to show his homely attitude, racing cards out for Pack and then Taylor whilst waving on Villa indiscretions. And on 25 he'd wrongly rule out City's opener, Weimann's looping a near post header in off Eliasson's cross.

City were incensed and rightly so but they continued to press and just two minutes later a quick long ball over the top allowed Diedhiou to control and quickly find room away from his marker to fire off a hurried low shot which was loose and wide.

Again the game swung the other end and on the half hour O'Leary produced a point blank stunning save - his first of several - as once again El Ghazi had room to cross from the left but Hourihane's header was incredibly beaten away by City's keeper .

Before half time a Villa midfielder blatantly handballed in City's half to start an attack and once again ref Duncan was in full on homer mode letting play continue, McGinn winning a free kick on the edge of the box, that Hourihane fired spectacularly wide.

After the restart City again started faster, Hunt breaking into space on the right and a ball over the top getting Weimann clear to force a fierce shot that was deflected for a corner in front of the massed, noisy City fans. Pack headed the corner wide.

By contrast the 39000 Villa fans had been remarkably silent - easily the quietest sell out City may ever be involved in - but they would rally soon enough and the ref again come to their rescue, this time where man of the match O'Leary had stopped them.

First on 50 the young City keeper flapped at an Adomah shot but recovered quickly to again brilliant beat away Hourihane's right footed effort at close range. But it produced a series of corners from which the hosts were given a fortuitous opening.

Out of nothing Hourihane tumbled feebly near Hunt in the box and amazingly, a ref that had shown stunning inconsistency in addressing defensive marshalling at either end (Diedhiou regularly wrestled all over) decided this constituted a clear penalty.

The Villa Park record breaking sponsored silence was rewarded as City's ex loanee Tammy Abraham fired a fortuitous penalty home. Just a minute later and battling City nearly equalised, a high ball over the top finding Weimann clear, only to lash over.

If that highlighted how close the contest was - in sharp contrast to City's previous seasons here - then in truth LJ's brand of solid, fine margin football away from home was already out the window thanks to the ref and finally Villa would find their feet.

After the hour O'Leary saved from McGinn from yet another left wing cross, and then Hourihane headed over off the endless El Ghazi supply. On 65 again El Ghazi found too much space on the left, fed Hourihane who drilled a low shot into the far corner.

By now City were chasing the game while feeble referee Duncan, who'd separated the teams decisively, preened, ran round waving away fouls on City, and yet teared into any opportunity to book or flag City for touching their 'in form' Midlands rivals.

City hit back quickly - no less than they deserved - as we pressed the home back line, Brownhill nodded it over the top, the tireless Diedhiou slashing past the keeper. 2-1 but not quite "game on" as it was the referee not the teams that set the tone.

And that was the problem, City having to chase the game against 12 men, would be too much for us on a good day, let alone one where we seemed to be off target on all our final balls. And so the final minutes were yet more El Ghazi left wing assault.

He teed up Taylor and Davis, whilst for us, still plugging away in Villa's silent stadium, Fam had a shot blocked after good work by sub Palmer, while fellow sub Baker put a header high and wide from Weimann's reverse. That was as good as it got.

In the final ten minutes now buoyant Villa - you can thank the ref for that - drew save after save from the outstanding O'Leary, thought it barely registered with their still largely silent 39000 supporters. Jedniak, McGinn, and Davis would all go close.

In the end City could have been beaten by more - failing to deal with El Ghazi in both halves and every chance (and there was a lot) came from their left. Yet City has had a season weathering such storms away, it was the ref  that made the real difference.

 

O'Leary 9 Not just his best performance in a City shirt but bar a preference to punch was the best from any keeper since Basso

Hunt 4 Love the guy who was effective against WBA but he rolled the red carpet out for El Ghazi today, we were abused by Villa solely from their constant crosses from the left wing, never once got a grip

Da Silva 7 Not the heights of Tuesday but still worked hard and avoided mistakes or time afforded on the other flank 

Kalas 7 Mostly solid under an awful lot of pressure and movement, was pulled out of position a lot, relished playing teammate Abraham who I thought he made look very average when the ref let him compete

Webster 6 For the most part looked classy running out of defence as per, but he gave it away twice in terrible positions and did not offer much support to stem the flow from Villa's left

Pack 5 Usual stuff from Pack - was in and amongst it when we looked good and able to move the ball, but give him it 25 yards out at speed and he is so slow to work out what he wants to do with it, we invariably went backwards 

Brownhill 6 Had a hand in our goal, always looked like he wanted it even at two down, only criticism like Pack perhaps didn't do enough to disrupt Villa's direct balls from the right, but the ref made it very hard to

Eliasson 6 Some dangerous interventions in the first 15 minutes and had earned his start after Tuesday but compared to that he became quite lightweight at times and desire to cut in and cross with his left a bit too obvious and easy to block

Weimann 6 Had his moments against his old team and he ran in behind them a few times to good effect but part of a front 2 that were all too often off cue in the final exchange ball, albeit he nearly equalised and had a perfectly good goal ruled out  

Taylor 5 Love the culture that exists with loving everything he stands for as a leader and shithouser extraordinaire but it is so obvious he is a league below the players around him in both speed and presence

Diedhiou 6 Touch was off for at least an hour but he kept going and his desire in the final moments was all important if we had a chance of beating the twelve men

 

Baker 5 Gave us the change of shape but didn't add much besides his one attacking header that he flashed wide, and arguably we were even worse last 20 but then the ref had got Villa's tails up

Palmer 6 A number or smart balls over the top or through the backline on the floor, but nothing was coming off and no one was on the same wavelength

Paterson 5 On too late to have any effect 

 

Postscript: my apologies to  Abraham who I wrongly accused on Twitter of diving for the pen - the Villa lower tier oddly dished out first to City fans offers an awful view of the football and was hard to see from the other end who bought the refs affections, nonetheless worth saying Tammy looked often easily bumped off the ball or out of control, perhaps why the referee was so sympathetic all game in a way which he never afforded to Diedhiou at the other end

Bit harsh on Hunt as he had been booked near the end of the first half and with that referee he knew that he couldn't get too close to El Ghazi let alone touch him - one dive and Hunt is off.  Maybe he should have been subbed a lot earlier. The ref booked Pack and Taylor early doors and they also knew that he wouldn't hesitate to send them off so that also curbed their game. Six of our players plus Macca and Holden booked with one Villa player booked. Says it all really.

We were up against a very good Villa team who really didn't need the help of the referee.

Hamstrung from kick off imo.

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