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BessexRED

Saturday - A Pre-Match Plea

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It's been well documented on here and social media that the Ashton Gate atmosphere hasn't quite been what it can be over the last 7/8 months, and there have been various different attempts to improve it, one of which closing the bars 15 mins before KO to ensure people take their seats early.

The atmosphere against West Brom was very good and pulled the players through, you could see how appreciative they were at the end from their reactions, and the same needs to happen again Saturday in front of what looks like will be a sell out Ashton Gate.

My request, however, is this — before the Man City game we had the music turned off and didn't have Downsy screaming down the mic at us informing us of the date umpteen times, and the atmosphere pre-match was very decent and set the tone as the players came out. Can we do the same again @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO? It gives people an incentive to go to their seats rather than staying in the concourse with a pint. Even if our support gives an extra 1% Saturday to the players that could well be the difference, we need to make use of home advantage again as that seems to be beyond us this season.

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I've got to be honest, I've always taken my seat just as the players enter the pitch. There is just no reason to take my seat before that time. Infact the entrance music is my cue to leave the concourse. 

Saturdays game is not going to change that.

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Just now, Up The City! said:

I've got to be honest, I've always taken my seat just as the players enter the pitch. There is just no reason to take my seat before that time. Infact the entrance music is my cue to leave the concourse. 

Saturdays game is not going to change that.

As have I mate, I rarely arrive at AG before 2:55 and rarely stay in my seat at HT as I find all the pre-match and half time ongoings are getting more and more Americanised and a little bit like the Reading FC matchday experience whenever I've visited as an away fan.

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10 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

I've got to be honest, I've always taken my seat just as the players enter the pitch. There is just no reason to take my seat before that time. Infact the entrance music is my cue to leave the concourse. 

Saturdays game is not going to change that.

Agree see no reason to get to my seat any earlier, the music just blares out and kills any atmosphere anyway

It's not rocket science to select tunes that are football related that could be played, but then maybe it is to some?

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Just switch it off tbh.

The odd City related, football related or song conducive to atmosphere maybe considered but beyond that? Just switch it off!

The good work of bars and outlets shutting 15 mins before, encouraging people to take seats early- is to a decent extent cancelled out by unrelated music blaring out pre game.

@BessexRED Norwich at home decent no? Back in December. Huddersfield under the lights okay at times in the Cup. Swansea had a nice edge to it let's say, always helps with atmosphere, and QPR 2nd half pretty loud. That is in addition to West Brom.

After the Korey injury v Reading it got very loud for a few mins afterwards I thought. Nice to see a bit of the old AG hostility back- didn't their number 16, I think it was Baker get booed with some vigour, some venom every time he approached the South Stand, let alone touched the ball. Lasted a few mins that, overall atmosphere Friday? Well I've seen worse for a midday but it wasn't stellar.

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Exactly

What I find odd, is that before each game the rugby club ask supporters for "themes" of music to be played?

So at least they can respond to demand

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I do like the ‘Galvanise’ video that they have been playing on the screen before KO lately though, always a good tune to inspire and some great memories too from over the years. 

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As has been mentioned above, many people don’t take their seats until the last minute. This isn’t surprising as the concourse and fans village are more interesting if you want to talk to fellow supporters. To get people to get to their seat early we need something interesting pre-match, such as Monkey Tennis 

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At Hillsborough yesterday, you could actually have a conversation whilst the music was playing before the game.....then you had a pretty noisy bit of music as the players came out.

The music played at Ashton Gate is far too loud......and so is that announcer 

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8 hours ago, BessexRED said:

It's been well documented on here and social media that the Ashton Gate atmosphere hasn't quite been what it can be over the last 7/8 months, and there have been various different attempts to improve it, one of which closing the bars 15 mins before KO to ensure people take their seats early.

The atmosphere against West Brom was very good and pulled the players through, you could see how appreciative they were at the end from their reactions, and the same needs to happen again Saturday in front of what looks like will be a sell out Ashton Gate.

My request, however, is this — before the Man City game we had the music turned off and didn't have Downsy screaming down the mic at us informing us of the date umpteen times, and the atmosphere pre-match was very decent and set the tone as the players came out. Can we do the same again @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO? It gives people an incentive to go to their seats rather than staying in the concourse with a pint. Even if our support gives an extra 1% Saturday to the players that could well be the difference, we need to make use of home advantage again as that seems to be beyond us this season.

Cheers.

Man City atmossphere was crap from memory.

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Can’t we just bin Downsy off altogether? Or get him off the mic atleast! Blokes embarrassing and cringeworthy.

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9 hours ago, BessexRED said:

BCFCSLe atmosphere against West Brom was very good and pulled the players through, you could see how appreciative they were at the end from their reactions, and the same needs to happen again Saturday in front of what looks like will be a sell out Ashton Gate.

My request, however, is this — @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO

My request is to score three goals in the first 18 minutes. Might just explain a good atmosphere more than the music played or whether an extra pint is consumed before taking your seat.

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36 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

My request is to score three goals in the first 18 minutes. Might just explain a good atmosphere more than the music played or whether an extra pint is consumed before taking your seat.

Of course 3 goals in the first 18 would be fantastic- but realistically we can hope and wish but demand or expectations like that just unrealistic IMO. More likely. fans will need to stick with team, show patience- won't be easy but I think in a game like this a noisy atmosphere from the getgo quite important.

Club should do all they can to facilitate this- shutting bars and fanzone, encouraging fans to take seats 15 mins early, opening up some seats in the Atyeo all helps- just hope they can shut off the music 10-15 before the game too!

Of course the players have to leave it all on the pitch- but definitely I credit the club here.

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I've always wondered why you need music played at football. What does it actually do apart from destroy a natural atmosphere?

It's the same as when you are in a pub...everyone chatting and creating a natural atmosphere, then boom...some idiot sticks a duke box on. Atmosphere dead...everyone stops talking.

Has anyone club done any actual market research on this?

Or like most things...they think blaring music creates and atmosphere?

Because it actually has the reverse effect.

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5 minutes ago, spudski said:

I've always wondered why you need music played at football. What does it actually do apart from destroy a natural atmosphere?

It's the same as when you are in a pub...everyone chatting and creating a natural atmosphere, then boom...some idiot sticks a duke box on. Atmosphere dead...everyone stops talking.

Has anyone club done any actual market research on this?

Or like most things...they think blaring music creates and atmosphere?

Because it actually has the reverse effect.

Can’t agree with pub analogy....you have to have some decent background music at least otherwise it becomes a sterile ‘Wetherspoons’ atmosphere.

as others have said, if you are going to play music at the gate....make it football/city related

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19 minutes ago, spudski said:

I've always wondered why you need music played at football. What does it actually do apart from destroy a natural atmosphere?

It's the same as when you are in a pub...everyone chatting and creating a natural atmosphere, then boom...some idiot sticks a duke box on. Atmosphere dead...everyone stops talking.

Has anyone club done any actual market research on this?

Or like most things...they think blaring music creates and atmosphere?

 Because it actually has the reverse effect.

Okay slight conspiracy theory time. *Puts on tin hat*

Given how paranoid authorities are, have been about hooliganism, trouble in the game etc etc-they have perhaps associated passionate and noisy fans with hooliganism, ultras all that crap- don't mean us I mean football clubs, authorities in general.

Music kills dead that chance to create, to build a natural atmosphere pre-game- certainly how loud it is at AG. A lot of people give up.

Given the historically incorrect connection of some between noisy fans and troublesome fans, loud overpowering non relevant music helps to sanitise, to kill dead the chances of a noisy pre-game atmosphere. Why bother when you won't be heard?

"Removes tin hat*

Or more mundanely, it's an Americanisation of entertainment industry. Can only assume it came in with all-seater stadia?

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10 hours ago, RedM said:

I do like the ‘Galvanise’ video that they have been playing on the screen before KO lately though, always a good tune to inspire and some great memories too from over the years. 

Totally agree, seeing some of our finest moments on the screen minutes for the game always raises a smile and gives an extra enthusiasm for what’s about to happen on the pitch.

Would never get in the ground 15 mins early though, I support the team from the moment they enter the field until the end of the game....

Ok, what I actually mean is I support from the 1st minute to the 40th, have a beer, support from the 46th minute until full time.

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1 hour ago, RedRaw said:

Can’t agree with pub analogy....you have to have some decent background music at least otherwise it becomes a sterile ‘Wetherspoons’ atmosphere.

as others have said, if you are going to play music at the gate....make it football/city related

Disagree...I don't drink in Weatherspoons, so have no idea what they are like.

Pubs are for meeting and socialising. Talking and drinking...you can listen to music at home with a drink.

Football is the same...it's about supporting your team and communicating with fellow supporters.

You don't need music to generate an atmosphere. It's totally false and manufactured if you do.

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10 hours ago, phantom said:

Agree see no reason to get to my seat any earlier, the music just blares out and kills any atmosphere anyway

It's not rocket science to select tunes that are football related that could be played, but then maybe it is to some?

Spot on Phants - at Ibrox they bang out songs just related to Rangers for about an hour before KO and it generates a fantastic atmosphere ..... they are all songs related to the club and chants that their fans sing at every game, it sounds awesome...

Here’s a selection ..... 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Okay slight conspiracy theory time. *Puts on tin hat*

Given how paranoid authorities are, have been about hooliganism, trouble in the game etc etc-they have perhaps associated passionate and noisy fans with hooliganism, ultras all that crap- don't mean us I mean football clubs, authorities in general.

Music kills dead that chance to create, to build a natural atmosphere pre-game- certainly how loud it is at AG. A lot of people give up.

Given the historically incorrect connection of some between noisy fans and troublesome fans, loud overpowering non relevant music helps to sanitise, to kill dead the chances of a noisy pre-game atmosphere. Why bother when you won't be heard?

"Removes tin hat*

Or more mundanely, it's an Americanisation of entertainment industry. Can only assume it came in with all-seater stadia?

I totally agree...buy ticket, eat and drink on concourse, sit and watch game.

Unfortunately...the players and 'club' want the fans to generate noise and support...however that isn't going to happen if they serve up a Shopping Mall atmosphere beforehand. Catch 22.

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I've always thought that blaring music kills a pre match atmosphere.

A few choice songs is fine but when it's none stop loud often crap music, it only has one effect and that us to produce calm snd quiet when it eventually stops at kick off 

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8 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

I've always thought that blaring music kills a pre match atmosphere.

A few choice songs is fine but when it's none stop loud often crap music, it only has one effect and that us to produce calm snd quiet when it eventually stops at kick off 

Nailed it.

No chance to build an atmosphere...why bother it won't be heard anyway- nice and sedate atmosphere...nothing has built naturally.

Clubs play music for varied reasons, theories- this is the result. Rinse and repeat.

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13 hours ago, spudski said:

Just this...please 😍

 

Loved that. If the resolution was better I’m sure I could pick myself out in the Eastend 😊

Seriously, I used to get into the ground a good hour before and sing and chant, I had to to get a space so I could see ( not tall) but somehow everyone had their places and you found yourself stood on the terraces with the same people around you week after week, year after year.

I can’t remember people drinking at the ground either, local pubs yes but not at the ground? As far as I was aware only the ‘posh’ people in the Williams or Dolman had access to bars? I think there was the Supporters bar ( never went in there) and the players bar we went in after the match for a drink and a chat to the players. Just can’t remember alcohol being sold the way it is in the concourses? Maybe that’s the problem, people are drinking and eating and not out building up the atmosphere. The club must think so as they shut the concourses early one Saturday recently. Also as everyone now has a reserved seat there is no need to arrive early to get a place to stand. 

I think we’ve got too comfy.

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24 minutes ago, RedM said:

Loved that. If the resolution was better I’m sure I could pick myself out in the Eastend 😊

Seriously, I used to get into the ground a good hour before and sing and chant, I had to to get a space so I could see ( not tall) but somehow everyone had their places and you found yourself stood on the terraces with the same people around you week after week, year after year.

I can’t remember people drinking at the ground either, local pubs yes but not at the ground? As far as I was aware only the ‘posh’ people in the Williams or Dolman had access to bars? I think there was the Supporters bar ( never went in there) and the players bar we went in after the match for a drink and a chat to the players. Just can’t remember alcohol being sold the way it is in the concourses? Maybe that’s the problem, people are drinking and eating and not out building up the atmosphere. The club must think so as they shut the concourses early one Saturday recently. Also as everyone now has a reserved seat there is no need to arrive early to get a place to stand. 

I think we’ve got too comfy.

Totally agree ....

There was limited drink available before games in the 70’s and 80’s hence we all had to get to the ground and go to our places - be it standing or sitting - there was no point waiting outside. 

I cant remember any music so everyone had to make their own entertainment. 

That said - there is nothing stopping everyone coming into the ground early and making an atmosphere - a drink before wasn’t needed then ...  is it now?

I do agree that if everyone got in earlier then the music needs sorting as it is generally pretty crap!

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3 hours ago, 1bristolcity said:

That will send everyone to sleep.

Indeed. "Come on you Reds" doesn't really do it for me...

"Red Army" or "Cider Army"...lot more rousing!

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19 hours ago, BCFC11 said:

Can’t we just bin Downsy off altogether? Or get him off the mic atleast! Blokes embarrassing and cringeworthy.

Totally agree, get the bloke off, keeps reminding us it's Ashton Gate, WE FXXKING KNOW, 

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5 minutes ago, Redmycolour said:

Totally agree, get the bloke off, keeps reminding us it's Ashton Gate, WE FXXKING KNOW, 

I'm guessing he'll be off to Butlins soon to do his summer stint?

Perhaps if we are lucky he may stay there?

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2 hours ago, 1bristolcity said:

One of the best bands ...ever, Bristol too, but he!y! lets have Come on Youuuuu redzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Two thirds (the old and the young) of City fans won't know who they are......and half the people who will know who they are, won't like them.

That's why Massive Attack will have Little Effect with building any kind of decent atmosphere.

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48 minutes ago, phantom said:

I'm guessing he'll be off to Butlins soon to do his summer stint?

Perhaps if we are lucky he may stay there?

Would he lower himself and go to the hell hole that is Pontins instead?

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