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3 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

Just one more point.....It is my belief that prior to the 70’s the rivalry between City and Rovers was a lot less bitter than it became. I know a few old timers who would go to City one week and go to Rovers the next quite happily. 

And certainly even during the 1970’s after the games the City and Rovers players had been known to socialise together off the pitch. It was competitive on the pitch but certainly not as ugly as it was off the pitch. I know that because I have heard it first hand from a Rovers player who was part of the 73/74 promotion winning side under Don Megson and from a City player who played an integral part in City’s promotion winning team of 75/76.

I would guess some people still do.

Isn't it a bit like watching a league club one week and a non league club the next?

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3 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

Rovers are older than us, too, they were around before us but, crucially, in my opinion, they played safe anchoring themselves in the safe harbour of the Southern League, not having the gumption to go out into the choppy waters of the new-fangled professional national, Northern leagues.

Meanwhile, we were the upstart, younger brother that came from nowhere and took the leap into the shark-infested waters out beyond the comparatively gentle Southern League (largely amateur, anti professional. Unlike the northern Football League, ruthlessly professional. Cut throat) blazing a trail. And not only that, but succeeding, gloriously, almost immediately. 

We cut a dash, for a while. And were inches from glory; we touched greatness, briefly, but it slipped away. We were amongst the big boys. And then we went back there again with a team we made ourselves in the '70s.

Rovers have always remained tied to mother's apron strings - taking shelter in the safe harbour of League One and Two, with even a dip back down into the part-time rubbish whence they originated when L2 was too much/rough for them - sucking their thumb, afraid to risk anything more, watching us while we have gone out into the world and tasted some of it's delights and disasters.

The delights we enjoyed, they bitterly, and enviously resent; the disasters they revel in. They have no glory of their own to eulogise. They had five or six years in the Second Division in the 1950s where they mixed it with, for them, the big boys, and must've thought their moment had come, but it never happened. Back to mummy ever since.

Rovers have never gone bust like us (1982), because they have never gone boom! like us (not that our boom! is anything to write home about, really). They would never dare! They've never had the bottle (the imagination/the audacity/the ambition/the gumption/the delusion). They won't let go of mummy.

They like to see it (1982) as evidence of their moral superiority, when in fact it is a defence against their fearfulness and sense of inferiority. 

They are still a Southern League club, at heart. They despise us because they despise themselves and their gutless, pathetic, fearful dependence on the safety of "mummy" and inability to make or even have a bloody good go amongst the big boys, where the glory is to be found. Like we're currently doing (the Championship, now, is a level way beyond anything they have ever experienced). Again.

Not that Miah and co will admit this, or even recognise it. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for filling in the historical gaps @Moments of Pleasure ???

It’s like a mental condition with them. Rather than accepting their own problems and enjoying their own successes they would rather shift the blame onto City.

When they do bad it’s City’s fault

When City do well they feel that it is some sort of negative reflection on them and City fans are labelled as ‘arrogant shitheads’ which entitles them to jizz in their pants with excitement when they are successful and hammer it home to those arrogant shitheads.

Just like 1990, all you heard about was City (not surprising as they were top of the third division for long spells during that season and beat First Division Chelsea 3-1 in the FA Cup). If Rovers had been top for most of the season then no doubt the media spotlight would have been on them, but oh no, to them it was and had always been about a perceived bias towards City and I go back to my point about City getting all of the attention with Rovers ending up ‘forgotten about’.

So when it comes to beating City and winning the title they feel ‘justified’ in rubbing the shitheads faces in it. Pathetically wearing “Bristol City 1990 - Third Division Champions” T-shirts during their open top bus tour of Kingswood. This somewhat skewed view of reality is then further compounded by Ian Holloway announcing that they have “had to put up with crap from shitheads recently” and following it up by saying “Let’s all play a game tonight if you can? It’s called ‘Find the City Fan’”.

This is the mentality of life as a Rovers supporter for many (not all).

They will argue until they are blue in the face that they don’t give a **** about Shitheads and that it is us who is obsessed with them, but they are having a ******* bubble if they think any City fan buys that for one second?

This is the reason we celebrated their relegation to Non-League football (because they wanted us to cease to exist in 1982) and why we have this massive thread today (combination of 1982 and 1990) and the odd ‘City Relegation Party’ thread.

All that they have ever banged on about has come back to bite them on the arse....and then they have gone even further The ‘Gift that keeps on giving’.

They will argue that City ceased to exist in 1982.  The fact is (and the records show) that a Bristol City club has continued the n the football league, but I certainly cannot see any record of Bristol Rovers being in any of the 4 divisions during 2015.....just checked again....nope, no sign of Rovers. So really, banging on about 1982 when they dropped out of the football league altogether is laughable.

 

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1 minute ago, Banjo Island said:

Its incredible were on here talking about 25 million pound signings on top on top of nigh on 20 mill and some halfwit comes on banging on about 82 get a life u utter fool

but, but, they sold Taylor to us for £10million did they not? ?
 

1982 is about the amount of season tickets they've sold isn't it?  

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On 29/07/2019 at 12:06, BanburyRed said:

 you've done nothing and achieved nothing (unless you count being relegated to non league by a team wearing your own kit having celebrated beating relegation the previous week an achievement?)

I just love this comment and it still ranks as one of the funniest things that has ever happened in professional sport! ?

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49 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

I read this week that Florist fans were collecting money to help save Notts County.

Would anyone be brave enough to shake a tin for Rovers at Ashton Gate if it came to it?

 

 

 

Thought not.

Different relationship I think but ready to stand corrected.

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8 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

Rovers are older than us, too, they were around before us but, crucially, in my opinion, they played safe anchoring themselves in the safe harbour of the Southern League, not having the gumption to go out into the choppy waters of the new-fangled professional national, Northern leagues.

Meanwhile, we were the upstart, younger brother that came from nowhere and took the leap into the shark-infested waters out beyond the comparatively gentle Southern League (largely amateur, anti professional. Unlike the northern Football League, ruthlessly professional. Cut throat) blazing a trail. And not only that, but succeeding, gloriously, almost immediately. 

We cut a dash, for a while. And were inches from glory; we touched greatness, briefly, but it slipped away. We were amongst the big boys. And then we went back there again with a team we made ourselves in the '70s.

Rovers have always remained tied to mother's apron strings - taking shelter in the safe harbour of League One and Two, with even a dip back down into the part-time rubbish whence they originated when L2 was too much/rough for them - sucking their thumb, afraid to risk anything more, watching us while we have gone out into the world and tasted some of it's delights and disasters.

The delights we enjoyed, they bitterly, and enviously resent; the disasters they revel in. They have no glory of their own to eulogise. They had five or six years in the Second Division in the 1950s where they mixed it with, for them, the big boys, and must've thought their moment had come, but it never happened. Back to mummy ever since.

Rovers have never gone bust like us (1982), because they have never gone boom! like us (not that our boom! is anything to write home about, really). They would never dare! They've never had the bottle (the imagination/the audacity/the ambition/the gumption/the delusion). They won't let go of mummy.

They like to see it (1982) as evidence of their moral superiority, when in fact their infatuation with our "moral failing" is a defence against their own fearfulness, timidity and sense of inferiority. 

They are still a Southern League club, at heart. They despise us because they despise themselves and their gutless, pathetic, fearful dependence on the safety of "mummy" and inability to make or even have a bloody good go amongst the big boys, where the glory is to be found. Like we're currently doing (the Championship, now, is a level way beyond anything they have ever experienced). Again.

Not that Miah and co will admit this, or even recognise it. 

 

 

 

 

 

This is spot on.

We’ve tried - and largely failed - to be successful. The Rovers, they’ve never really tried at all. What have they ever actually done?

Better to die trying in my opinion. If they want to wax lyrical about the Tote End, Twerton, terraces, underdog spirit etc then fair enough but it’s just pining for a football world that is long gone.

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44 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said:

They did all they could to ensure we went out of business in 82 so **** em!

This! Stopped the council bailing us out so they could nick our stadium, then they want the same council to build them a new one. Get f**ked gas. 

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18 minutes ago, Andre_The_Giant said:

This is spot on.

We’ve tried - and largely failed - to be successful. The Rovers, they’ve never really tried at all. What have they ever actually done?

Better to die trying in my opinion. If they want to wax lyrical about the Tote End, Twerton, terraces, underdog spirit etc then fair enough but it’s just pining for a football world that is long gone.

What have they ever actually done, you ask? They won the Third Division decades ago. Wow. And they have never "shafted" any players, local businesses, any one or thing ever, like what we did.

Rather one day like a lion than 100 years asleep. Or sheep, or something.

To be fair - not mandatory on this thread, but hey: let's give it a go - it's more like: rather "about an hour like a lion and the rest of the day a cross between a sloth and a goat than 100 years as Bristol Rovers." Not as snappy, clearly, but it'll do.

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2 hours ago, Southport Red said:

I read this week that Florist fans were collecting money to help save Notts County.

Would anyone be brave enough to shake a tin for Rovers at Ashton Gate if it came to it?

 

 

 

Thought not.

no City fan of sane mind would even give them the skidders in their underpants, let alone cash.  I’m usually all for giving something to those less fortunate but there is a line to be drawn as far as that rancid club are concerned 

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30 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

no City fan of sane mind would even give them the skidders in their underpants, let alone cash.  I’m usually all for giving something to those less fortunate but there is a line to be drawn as far as that rancid club are concerned 

I’d go to put the change in their pot then at the last minute chuck it on the floor nonchalantly and watch them scrabble around on all fours, wearing stinky rags, gathering up the coppers with their dirty unwashed hands whilst saying “thanks guv’nor”

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7 hours ago, Banjo Island said:

Its incredible were on here talking about 25 million pound signings on top on top of nigh on 20 mill and some halfwit comes on banging on about 82 get a life u utter fool

Calm down and pour yourself a large one. I answered a post, and then the subsequent ones, it's not me banging on about it :)

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21 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

Same fate may await rovers again. You did go bust in 1939 and would of been sunk without a trace if the outbreak of the Second World War hadn’t started. Bloody hitler 

I know Rovers finished bottom of Div 3 South in 1939 and had to apply for re-election to the league - but I didn’t realise they went bust. 

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7 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I think you managed it all by yourself to be fair,

Your mob did everything they could to finish us off WTGR Miah. Some of us won't forget it either.

No offence to you personally as you're a fine poster but your club, at the time, were as unsupportive as they could possibly have been. 

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12 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

So far in this transfer window, 4 multi million pound signings for us, while over at the Mem ?????  a camel,2 donkeys and a pile of out of date carrots found round the back of Aldi.

You really are coming for us ?

don't forget they also signed a player that Eastleigh didn't want - for someone who isn't short of a few quid the owner is really splashing out

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4 hours ago, Southport Red said:

I read this week that Florist fans were collecting money to help save Notts County.

Would anyone be brave enough to shake a tin for Rovers at Ashton Gate if it came to it?

 

 

 

Thought not.

Slightly inaccurate I think.

In my understanding, the bucket collection at Forests game was to raise money to pay the staff at Notts who hadn’t been paid for two months due to one of many shyster owners in English football these days. This wasn’t to save the club, it was to stop likely low paid staff going to food banks and letting them stay in homes.

So, in that circumstance (which, tbf, is likely to arise under Wally), and for those people, yes, I probably would.

Sorry...

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7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Slightly inaccurate I think.

In my understanding, the bucket collection at Forests game was to raise money to pay the staff at Notts who hadn’t been paid for two months due to one of many shyster owners in English football these days. This wasn’t to save the club, it was to stop likely low paid staff going to food banks and letting them stay in homes.

So, in that circumstance (which, tbf, is likely to arise under Wally), and for those people, yes, I probably would.

Sorry...

I’d be putting my hand in my pocket too.  The Club vs. Club rivalry is one thing, looking out for employees being done over by club ownership is something different.

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12 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Thing is, their ground is mortgaged to the hilt, just like Eastville was when they sold it to the dogs back then.  We can all see that history is repeating itself.

Hopefully.

I can wait.

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