Swede Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Hope Wally hasn't already started taking the tents down yet. This sounds somewhat less positive. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-fruit-market-shareholder-responds-3179602 I'm sure there is a well used two word response in there somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said: So just for clarification, a club that can't even get a bracket for a big TV is suddenly going to find Circa 40 mill down the back of the sofa to build a stadium ? This is the same club that used a pergola for a disabled shelter and a tent for a stand.....OK then. Or find £49 and some change for a taxi for a Ryan Air flight for that poor unfortunate player cockman agreed to buy from the Irish non league but its been held up due to some unforeseen problems with "paperwork" The gift!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Hope Wally hasn't already started taking the tents down yet. This sounds somewhat less positive. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-fruit-market-shareholder-responds-3179602 What wael has done is just shaft himself, as he’s announced his intention before actually speaking to the owners, said owners now know how desperate rovers are and will do a Sainsbury’s is ask for well above markets rate, what ever the land is worth rovers will now have to pay triple for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Loon plage said: A fairly standard response and fair play to him. Gasheads now saying the council will compulsory purchase the site for new development to include high end apartments and a stadium.... Most of them are genuinely off their heads. That won’t happen as what ever aid they give the gas they also have to give us, thanks to the fuss they made in 1982 and them not letting the council help us, precedent has been set and pay back is a bitch :laugh: Edited August 6, 2019 by Monkeh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Sir Steve should buy the plot just to piss them off 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edada Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Vincent Vega said: So just for clarification, a club that can't even get a bracket for a big TV is suddenly going to find Circa 40 mill down the back of the sofa to build a stadium ? This is the same club that used a pergola for a disabled shelter and a tent for a stand.....OK then. And also can’t release an away shirt in time for the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, edada said: And also can’t release an away shirt in time for the start of the season. they did have one, but lent it to Mansfield who haven’t given it back yet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Monkeh said: What wael has done is just shaft himself, as he’s announced his intention before actually speaking to the owners, said owners now know how desperate rovers are and will do a Sainsbury’s is ask for well above markets rate, what ever the land is worth rovers will now have to pay triple for it Precisely. Therefore Roverzzz can't buy it because the "goalposts changed" Greedy bastard market owners. Poor old Wael, man of integrity, carried down Gloucester Road, blah blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Sir Steve should buy the plot just to piss them off He absolutely should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Sir Steve should buy the plot just to piss them off Of he could just buy a 1 meter square of land there, right in the middle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just been reading the gaschat forum to see what’s being said about the Weal claim of trying to build a stadium on the fruit market site. They are completely deluded and delusional, how long will before they start having a campaign to boycott the Sunday morning market because they blame the owners of the market that they don’t have a super doper stadium to call their own. What we know according to the regional director of Total Produce speaking on Radios Bristol, who is one of the owners the market, is that the site is not for sale but if someone makes an offer they couldn’t refuse they would consider it. He did go on to say they are very happy with their home . Now apparently on sagchat he is “only the regional director “ and therefore he haven’t been told the site is being sold off, or he is not telling the truth. Seriously these gas head have really lost the plot. An offer was made on the site by an unnamed buyer and was turned down a few months ago. The Fruit market holds a cards , they have a very valuable piece of land but also the location fits in with their business. I see many gas heads are saying it’s a win for the fruit market for to relocate to an out of town location again this shows but this is not strictly true. The fruit market is an wholesale business which means all the independent restaurants and fruit and veg shops in Bristol will go to the market everyday to purchase their fresh produce so the site in an convenient location for most of their customers and fact which most of the gasheads are unable to comprehend. This story is really a non starter. We have one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in Bristol with an owners who have no need to sale . Also the cost of the build and the infrastructure required puts this scheme in fantasy land. The gas are really the gift that keeps on giving if they believe that this stadium will every see the light of day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, bs3 said: Just been reading the gaschat forum to see what’s being said about the Weal claim of trying to build a stadium on the fruit market site. They are completely deluded and delusional, how long will before they start having a campaign to boycott the Sunday morning market because they blame the owners of the market that they don’t have a super doper stadium to call their own. What we know according to the regional director of Total Produce speaking on Radios Bristol, who is one of the owners the market, is that the site is not for sale but if someone makes an offer they couldn’t refuse they would consider it. He did go on to say they are very happy with their home . Now apparently on sagchat he is “only the regional director “ and therefore he haven’t been told the site is being sold off, or he is not telling the truth. Seriously these gas head have really lost the plot. An offer was made on the site by an unnamed buyer and was turned down a few months ago. The Fruit market holds a cards , they have a very valuable piece of land but also the location fits in with their business. I see many gas heads are saying it’s a win for the fruit market for to relocate to an out of town location again this shows but this is not strictly true. The fruit market is an wholesale business which means all the independent restaurants and fruit and veg shops in Bristol will go to the market everyday to purchase their fresh produce so the site in an convenient location for most of their customers and fact which most of the gasheads are unable to comprehend. This story is really a non starter. We have one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in Bristol with an owners who have no need to sale . Also the cost of the build and the infrastructure required puts this scheme in fantasy land. The gas are really the gift that keeps on giving if they believe that this stadium will every see the light of day. Yep. 6-24 months of guaranteed entertainment this will be for City fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: That won’t happen as what ever aid they give the gas they also have to give us, thanks to the fuss they made in 1982 and them not letting the council help us, precedent has been set and pay back is a bitch I sincerely hope we use all resources available to make sure they get fuckall public funding, or preferential terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Not sure if it's already been mentioned in this thread, but turns out that the 15ers "unique" blue and white quarters, aren't even unique in League One... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: Not sure if it's already been mentioned in this thread, but turns out that the 15ers "unique" blue and white quarters, aren't even unique in League One... How come Coventry manage to make it look slightly less hideous..?! It can’t be just the different badge, surely..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old parkender Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Loon plage said: A fairly standard response and fair play to him. Gasheads now saying the council will compulsory purchase the site for new development to include high end apartments and a stadium.... Most of them are genuinely off their heads. Imagine my shock, they expect the council to buy the land for them, something for nothing again. They are the most deluded fan base in the history of deluded fanbases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Haha the council to buy the land and the 50 million to build 20000 seater stadium their branins must be minicule the size of a petit pou deluded fools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Monkeh said: That won’t happen as what ever aid they give the gas they also have to give us, thanks to the fuss they made in 1982 and them not letting the council help us, precedent has been set and pay back is a bitch Probably even more difficult than that Monkeh , if the Council gave us and the gAss anything , anyone that didn't like or follow football would be up in arms about their Council tax. being wasted. Keyboard hipster warriors would be out in force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Probably even more difficult than that Monkeh , if the Council gave us and the gAss anything , anyone that didn't like or follow football would be up in arms about their Council tax. being wasted. Keyboard hipster warriors would be out in force. They would be right though to be fair. Commercuial enterprises getting public funds when we have homeless kipping in doorways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 6, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Going down the A4 on the way home tonight there's not a chance a football ground will be built on that site. As for getting it done within two years. I'd bet if they started demolishing tomorrow it wouldn't be ready by then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Having had a bit of a think about the numbers invovled in this pipe dream, could the more finance savvy members of OTIB confirm the following thoughts: Right now, the SAGs are losing money hand over fist however, Wally and Co (He's a lovely man) are keeping the club afloat by putting money into the club to pay the bills. However, if things go tits up or if Wally gets on his camel and rides out of town, the family have secured there investment against the mem so get their cash back (sort of) in any sale. Having said that, as I understand it, the value of the family's loans now equals the value of the Mem therefore any more money that gets shunted in wlil be at a loss to the family if they sell up unless they get a cracking good price for the ground. Furthermore then, when the site of the Mem gets sold as part of the move, all the proceeds from this sale are currently owed to the family. Unless Wally and Co put that money back into the new stadium the total money they'll have to invest from the sale of the Mem is zero. That means the whole amount of cash or a vast percentage of it is going to come from the investment banks. This means that the payments will have to be made and kept being made otherwise they're going to take they're money back and it's bye bye Saggys. The final question then, is how is a club currently making a multi million pound loss going to find the money to turn that loss into a profit and pay off an approximate 45 million pound loan ? Even with a potential increase of gate revenue from the new stadium novelty value there's nothing to suggest they'll start making that kind of money any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Nolan Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Has anyone got a video of the Van head butt gas hard nut. Need to shut a gashead up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Midlands Robin said: Having had a bit of a think about the numbers invovled in this pipe dream, could the more finance savvy members of OTIB confirm the following thoughts: Right now, the SAGs are losing money hand over fist however, Wally and Co (He's a lovely man) are keeping the club afloat by putting money into the club to pay the bills. However, if things go tits up or if Wally gets on his camel and rides out of town, the family have secured there investment against the mem so get their cash back (sort of) in any sale. Having said that, as I understand it, the value of the family's loans now equals the value of the Mem therefore any more money that gets shunted in wlil be at a loss to the family if they sell up unless they get a cracking good price for the ground. Furthermore then, when the site of the Mem gets sold as part of the move, all the proceeds from this sale are currently owed to the family. Unless Wally and Co put that money back into the new stadium the total money they'll have to invest from the sale of the Mem is zero. That means the whole amount of cash or a vast percentage of it is going to come from the investment banks. This means that the payments will have to be made and kept being made otherwise they're going to take they're money back and it's bye bye Saggys. The final question then, is how is a club currently making a multi million pound loss going to find the money to turn that loss into a profit and pay off an approximate 45 million pound loan ? Even with a potential increase of gate revenue from the new stadium novelty value there's nothing to suggest they'll start making that kind of money any time soon. There owners haven’t put a penny in, they have mortgaged the mem to the hilt to cover the loses, that can no longer be drawn upon (debt exceeds the value) they have serious cash flow problems proven by not being able to pay a nominal fee for a ucd player, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: There owners haven’t put a penny in, they have mortgaged the mem to the hilt to cover the loses, that can no longer be drawn upon (debt exceeds the value) they have serious cash flow problems proven by not being able to pay a nominal fee for a ucd player, and still they bury their heads in the sand and think this new stadium is a goer - I've still to decide whether it is delusion or the effects of the fumes off the stale Fanta that makes them like this. Whichever it is, I do not think there is an odder fanbase in the whole of football. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 21 hours ago, bristolmoose said: The New Camp 13 hours ago, Vincent Vega said: We have a winner. Not quite! I talked about the Nou Camp on here recently and was shot down a zillion times by the wise ones who insisted it’s the Camp Nou even though I explained why it’s known as the Nou Camp - so The Camp New - I’ll claim that! Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 From Sagchat.... According to this belter their new stadium will put AG to shame He then goes on to state how the blue few will struggle to get across town to the new stadium, so what’s their excuse for their current shit crowds? It would be a fantastic site in terms of proximity to the centre, publicity and prestige, and would put Ashton Gate firmly in the shade. In fact it's a great location for most people, apart from our core fanbase in North East Bristol, who will find getting to and from the fruit market a pain in the avocado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 hours ago, elhombrecito said: Not sure if it's already been mentioned in this thread, but turns out that the 15ers "unique" blue and white quarters, aren't even unique in League One... That is a retro kit. Hummel did lots of these late 80s based on the Denmark kit at Mexico 86. Saints and Coventry had Hummel back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: From Sagchat.... According to this belter their new stadium will put AG to shame He then goes on to state how the blue few will struggle to get across town to the new stadium, so what’s their excuse for their current shit crowds? It would be a fantastic site in terms of proximity to the centre, publicity and prestige, and would put Ashton Gate firmly in the shade. In fact it's a great location for most people, apart from our core fanbase in North East Bristol, who will find getting to and from the fruit market a pain in the avocado. That'll be the 'core' fanbase that hasn't been seen for years, decades even and can't be bothered to turn up in any numbers for their home games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, elhombrecito said: Not sure if it's already been mentioned in this thread, but turns out that the 15ers "unique" blue and white quarters, aren't even unique in League One... Don’t forget their real rivals in League One! Edited August 6, 2019 by BS4 on Tour... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 The fruit market side wouldn’t seem to be the ideal location for a stadium - there’s not much in the immediate vicinity. My memory might be playing tricks on me, but I’m sure I remember rumours of City considering it as a new stadium site at one point and I thought the same then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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