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On 17/09/2019 at 21:29, 29AR said:

Can’t agree with this any more.

I have been too and it’s  the most harrowing and sobering place you could imagine. I think it’s somewhere everyone should visit if they could, because the humility to gain from such a place is truly staggering. You can’t overstate how haunting it is. And it’s really tough, if you go early on your trip, you won’t enjoy the rest it will play on you for a while; if visited at the end, it’s a really sobering way to leave that will leave you in tears and detract from any enjoyment you had from a beautiful country. 

Even seeing that, and reminiscing of my visit, I won’t lie, it’s left me quite emotional sat on my sofa. How on earth can someone visit the place and not get it?!

I'm not sure how to word this as I would never try to belittle what happened there as it was utterly horrendous, but for me, Belsen shocked me more. 

I'm not going to try and use numbers as a reference as to why I think that as humans should never be referenced as just a number but Belsen was harrowing. Especially considering they never actually had gas chambers there (no matter what the Sex Pistols may have sang about)

I suppose it didn't help that my grandad was one of the first wave of troops that helped liberate Belsen. From listening to the people that knew him before that (especially my nan) they all say he was never the same afterwards.

As a kid growing up he would tell me loads of stories about certain parts of the war (he was a desert rat fighting Rommel through Africa/Egypt and Italy). He told me about scratching his name on the sphinx and how his best friend burned to death in a tank that he escaped from, but he absolutely refused to speak about Belsen and what he saw.

One of the great British reporters of the time Richard Dimbleby (father of David Dimbleby) said at the time

"Here over an acre of ground lay dead and dying people. You could not see which was which... The living lay with their heads against the corpses and around them moved the awful, ghostly procession of emaciated, aimless people, with nothing to do and with no hope of life, unable to move out of your way, unable to look at the terrible sights around them ... Babies had been born here, tiny wizened things that could not live ... A mother, driven mad, screamed at a British sentry to give her milk for her child, and thrust the tiny mite into his arms, then ran off, crying terribly. He opened the bundle and found the baby had been dead for days.

This day at Belsen was the most horrible of my life."

 

Every day of our lives we should be thankful that we have never had to see or live through the absolute horror that people of only two or three generations past had to live.

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55 minutes ago, RED4LIFE said:

I'm not sure how to word this as I would never try to belittle what happened there as it was utterly horrendous, but for me, Belsen shocked me more. 

I'm not going to try and use numbers as a reference as to why I think that as humans should never be referenced as just a number but Belsen was harrowing. Especially considering they never actually had gas chambers there (no matter what the Sex Pistols may have sang about)

I suppose it didn't help that my grandad was one of the first wave of troops that helped liberate Belsen. From listening to the people that knew him before that (especially my nan) they all say he was never the same afterwards.

As a kid growing up he would tell me loads of stories about certain parts of the war (he was a desert rat fighting Rommel through Africa/Egypt and Italy). He told me about scratching his name on the sphinx and how his best friend burned to death in a tank that he escaped from, but he absolutely refused to speak about Belsen and what he saw.

One of the great British reporters of the time Richard Dimbleby (father of David Dimbleby) said at the time

"Here over an acre of ground lay dead and dying people. You could not see which was which... The living lay with their heads against the corpses and around them moved the awful, ghostly procession of emaciated, aimless people, with nothing to do and with no hope of life, unable to move out of your way, unable to look at the terrible sights around them ... Babies had been born here, tiny wizened things that could not live ... A mother, driven mad, screamed at a British sentry to give her milk for her child, and thrust the tiny mite into his arms, then ran off, crying terribly. He opened the bundle and found the baby had been dead for days.

This day at Belsen was the most horrible of my life."

 

Every day of our lives we should be thankful that we have never had to see or live through the absolute horror that people of only two or three generations past had to live.

Incredible that, give or take, history in many schools has always been condensed into a story about a King who got an arrow through his eye and a few men sailing around the world on boats. 

About as boringly predictable as teaching Shakespeare. 

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4 hours ago, RED4LIFE said:

I'm not sure how to word this as I would never try to belittle what happened there as it was utterly horrendous, but for me, Belsen shocked me more. 

I'm not going to try and use numbers as a reference as to why I think that as humans should never be referenced as just a number but Belsen was harrowing. Especially considering they never actually had gas chambers there (no matter what the Sex Pistols may have sang about)

I suppose it didn't help that my grandad was one of the first wave of troops that helped liberate Belsen. From listening to the people that knew him before that (especially my nan) they all say he was never the same afterwards.

As a kid growing up he would tell me loads of stories about certain parts of the war (he was a desert rat fighting Rommel through Africa/Egypt and Italy). He told me about scratching his name on the sphinx and how his best friend burned to death in a tank that he escaped from, but he absolutely refused to speak about Belsen and what he saw.

One of the great British reporters of the time Richard Dimbleby (father of David Dimbleby) said at the time

"Here over an acre of ground lay dead and dying people. You could not see which was which... The living lay with their heads against the corpses and around them moved the awful, ghostly procession of emaciated, aimless people, with nothing to do and with no hope of life, unable to move out of your way, unable to look at the terrible sights around them ... Babies had been born here, tiny wizened things that could not live ... A mother, driven mad, screamed at a British sentry to give her milk for her child, and thrust the tiny mite into his arms, then ran off, crying terribly. He opened the bundle and found the baby had been dead for days.

This day at Belsen was the most horrible of my life."

 

Every day of our lives we should be thankful that we have never had to see or live through the absolute horror that people of only two or three generations past had to live.

I worked at the army base just up the road from Belsen, the old train station warehouse was still there and chillingly the cobbled road made by the inmates that led to the concentration camp. During a snowy day, work was called off so me and a friend decided to pay a visit to Belsen camp, it was staggeringly quiet, no birds could be heard, but the huge mounds all around you with the numbers of buried interred, unbelievable, a haunting place that was uncomfortable to see today so God knows what it was like for the soldiers liberating it, don't forget this was a work camp, not an extermination camp, horrendous place.

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People, I commend your discussions on Belsen and that abhorrent time in our history, I think you have fully put that brain dead idiot with the flag in his place.

So, moving on..... any news on the Azteca Kumquat? By my reckoning they only have 22 moths left to meet Wael of fortunes “realistic” deadline. 

 

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13 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

The gap is getting bigger every day. 

They remind me of the bloke you used to see down the pub. You didn't like him much, he was loud and annoying, but he was always there.

Years later your own life and business is successful and you've married a supermodel only to find out his own wife has left him, he's moved into a bedsit and he's a blithering hollowed out wreck of a being. 

That's Rovers since I was a kid. 

Get your facts right, I am in a shared house not a bedsit.

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14 hours ago, PhilC said:

I was out having drink after work tonight and pointed out to one of the prowed loyal and true that we will have 3x, almost 4x more than their attendance vs Gillingham. His response...?

 

"You sound bitter"

 

#gaslogic

As a PH Driver in Bristol I’m often asked if I’m from the Red half or Blue half of the town. I always reply I’m from the Red two thirds, but I’m soon going to have to say the Red Three Quarters. 

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18 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

The gap is getting bigger every day. 

They remind me of the bloke you used to see down the pub. You didn't like him much, he was loud and annoying, but he was always there.

Years later your own life and business is successful and you've married a supermodel only to find out his own wife has left him, he's moved into a bedsit and he's a blithering hollowed out wreck of a being. 

That's Rovers since I was a kid. 

You just wanted to brag about marrying a supermodel  didn't you? 

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2 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They only took 500 up to London today, another pathetic following.

To busy sliming around Millenium Square dishing out blow jobs to Swansea fans I expect...

 

 

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You can’t be surprised, they’re loved by every club in world football with unrivalled support...

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6 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

You can’t be surprised, they’re loved by every club in world football with unrivalled support...

Shame for them that most BRISTOLIANS prefer City and think Rovers are a laughing stock.

Strange that, isn’t it?

I suppose it’s far better to be more popular among the people who’s opinions really matter. I guess we’ll just have to console ourselves with that ?

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18 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They only took 500 up to London today, another pathetic following.

To busy sliming around Millenium Square dishing out blow jobs to Swansea fans I expect...

 

 

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Why would anyone who is out with his little girl go up to a load of Swansea fans and tell them he's Gas and get his hand shook by them all ???? his little girl must have really enjoyed her day out...pathetic bunch of fans that lot.

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59 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They only took 500 up to London today, another pathetic following.

Too busy sliming around Millenium Square dishing out blow jobs to Swansea fans I expect...

 

 

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******* hell that is pathetic.

@_dhoty candidate.

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