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31 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

That always changes in the summer when they start naming all the fringe players in our squad who they’d LOVE to sign. 

 

In truth I'd be happy to loan them some of our emerging talent if, and only if, they agree to sell us ahhh, well, um, er, um, hmmm, aaah ... nope, f'ck 'em.

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2 hours ago, Carey 6 said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-bristol-rovers-want-forge-3579775

Personally I hope we never help them out with our promising young talents ever again. Could turn them from a mid-table side into a promotion challenging one. 

Same here, bollox to helping them out in anyway whatsoever. Where’s the benefit in any of our young un’s training in a park with a tin hut for changing rooms, then come matchday they do the slightest thing wrong and they’ll have the loyal 6k giving him a barrage of abuse as they like to do so often these days. 

Bollox to them.

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Went to watch my nephew in an under 16s cup match against that lot for Ashton boys. I think they were under the watchful eye of Vaughan jones. The dressing room window was open and the team talk went along the lines of: Right we're right F****ing up for this match, eh Lads? We know they've got some tidy players, especially the winger. You have to get F****ing stuck into them from the start and let them know you're there. At the earliest opportunity, kick the F****ing winger into the F****ing air. Right! let's go and stick it up them.

Under 16s coaching as per the BRFC coaching Book. Why would we want to send our players there, unless we want them to learn how to win free kicks, penalties and getting players sent off.

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3 hours ago, Carey 6 said:

Them being close to us isn’t as much of an advantage as people make it out to be imo.

The only advantage is for the player staying nearby where they already live I guess.

full 90 minutes of games will be available for Tinman & his staff (I hope it’s not just him) to watch after games, there’s no real need to be there to see them. 

I actually think it's good for our young footballers to be sent away from Bristol to play in another town or city, I think thats an important part of their development as a person.

Most of the youngsters likely still live with mum and dad so it's a valuable life lesson for them to be taken out of their comfort zone and it's a real test of their character. If a youngster cant handle being away from the family home, then its questionable if they could handle the pressures that being a footballer bring. 

The only advantage to joining the sags would be that the player would still be able to train with us during the week, but we could still have that at clubs like FGR etc.

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2 hours ago, Up The City! said:

I actually think it's good for our young footballers to be sent away from Bristol to play in another town or city, I think thats an important part of their development as a person.

Most of the youngsters likely still live with mum and dad so it's a valuable life lesson for them to be taken out of their comfort zone and it's a real test of their character. If a youngster cant handle being away from the family home, then its questionable if they could handle the pressures that being a footballer bring. 

The only advantage to joining the sags would be that the player would still be able to train with us during the week, but we could still have that at clubs like FGR etc.

To a point I agree with you, but you only have to look at Caulker who expressed that being housed in a flat on Anchor Road, opposite a casino with no support did him no favours.

Some people are ready for independent living in their teens, others less equipped.

No right or wrong answers there.

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8 hours ago, Rich said:

Went to watch my nephew in an under 16s cup match against that lot for Ashton boys. I think they were under the watchful eye of Vaughan jones. The dressing room window was open and the team talk went along the lines of: Right we're right F****ing up for this match, eh Lads? We know they've got some tidy players, especially the winger. You have to get F****ing stuck into them from the start and let them know you're there. At the earliest opportunity, kick the F****ing winger into the F****ing air. Right! let's go and stick it up them.

Under 16s coaching as per the BRFC coaching Book. Why would we want to send our players there, unless we want them to learn how to win free kicks, penalties and getting players sent off.

Doesn’t suprise me one bit, in my younger playing days he took over as our manager and he had exactly the same sort of style back then as you’ve described above, bearing in mind we were only 9/10yo at the time, safe to say he upset a few and lasted about 2 games.

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13 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

yes that's correct - we've got the 'Singing Section', they've got the 'Minging Section(s)', they copy everything FFS

Much as I am happy/resigned to joining in with the piss taking most of the time, I would like to point that the reason we don't have a 'singing section' , is that the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good and we don't actually need to tell people to stand or sit in a particular place to join in. Most of the noise does come from the Blackthorn end of course, but even then it still comes from different parts of the terrace and hearing all the other sides/tents join in isn't uncommon.

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere , fans asking where they should sit if they want to sing and even one saying he doesn't sing out of consideration for those around him (I mean, come on!) . 

I was at Bromley last week , we had a piss poor following and the home fans treated us to a 'One nil and you still don't sing'

I'm trying to see how I can make ' Top end of the table team for ages now with oodles of cash  a great big stadium, biggest attendances for years and inevitably bound for the Premier league and you still don't sing'  scan into a chant :)

 

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18 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Much as I am happy/resigned to joining in with the piss taking most of the time, I would like to point that the reason we don't have a 'singing section' , is that the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good and we don't actually need to tell people to stand or sit in a particular place to join in. Most of the noise does come from the Blackthorn end of course, but even then it still comes from different parts of the terrace and hearing all the other sides/tents join in isn't uncommon.

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere , fans asking where they should sit if they want to sing and even one saying he doesn't sing out of consideration for those around him (I mean, come on!) . 

I was at Bromley last week , we had a piss poor following and the home fans treated us to a 'One nil and you still don't sing'

I'm trying to see how I can make ' Top end of the table team for ages now with oodles of cash  a great big stadium, biggest attendances for years and inevitably bound for the Premier league and you still don't sing'  scan into a chant :)

 

Despite what you might read, the atmosphere at the Gate can be pretty good at times. A lot of those who complain, seem to think we should generating something akin to those teams across Eastern Europe. 

I understand that there are those who would prefer us losing 4 nil in a great atmosphere, than winning 1 nil, in a morgue, but I don’t think there is a crowd in England that compares to those crowds across Europe and South America.

Despite the hype, this was only different in a handful of grounds pre all seater.

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24 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Much as I am happy/resigned to joining in with the piss taking most of the time, I would like to point that the reason we don't have a 'singing section' , is that the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good and we don't actually need to tell people to stand or sit in a particular place to join in. Most of the noise does come from the Blackthorn end of course, but even then it still comes from different parts of the terrace and hearing all the other sides/tents join in isn't uncommon.

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere , fans asking where they should sit if they want to sing and even one saying he doesn't sing out of consideration for those around him (I mean, come on!) . 

I was at Bromley last week , we had a piss poor following and the home fans treated us to a 'One nil and you still don't sing'

I'm trying to see how I can make ' Top end of the table team for ages now with oodles of cash  a great big stadium, biggest attendances for years and inevitably bound for the Premier league and you still don't sing'  scan into a chant :)

 

Just to cut through all the unnecessary waffle in your post, the key statement here is “the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good ”........so, pretty much the same as every club in the country then.

your fans keep rolling out the myth that you are “loyal and true” yet your manager comes out asking for improved atmosphere, surely if you were “da best fans in the world” doing well would not matter.

And please, rolling out goodnight Irene on loop does not make a good atmosphere 

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54 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

Just to cut through all the unnecessary waffle in your post, the key statement here is “the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good ”........so, pretty much the same as every club in the country then.

your fans keep rolling out the myth that you are “loyal and true” yet your manager comes out asking for improved atmosphere, surely if you were “da best fans in the world” doing well would not matter.

And please, rolling out goodnight Irene on loop does not make a good atmosphere 

I’ll have you know the atmosphere is that great at the dump, it’s scares the life out of the opposition players, just ask Matty Taylor shit himself and faked injury just to escape it all.

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9 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

To a point I agree with you, but you only have to look at Caulker who expressed that being housed in a flat on Anchor Road, opposite a casino with no support did him no favours.

Some people are ready for independent living in their teens, others less equipped.

No right or wrong answers there.

Having been to Uni, in general its overwhelmingly positive to say ttfn to parents. 

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4 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere

Same posts appear on Gaschat.

In fact the same posts probably appear on most clubs forums up and down the country, especially since more and more clubs have found themselves in all seater stadiums.

Ashton Gate can be like a library at times and really loud at others, same as everywhere else. As I’ve mentioned in the past, I lived near the Mem for years so I know your games are not full of non stop deafening noise from the stands.

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8 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

Having been to Uni, in general its overwhelmingly positive to say ttfn to parents. 

I know what TTFN means but that’s because I’m an old stager. I think you need a translation for everyone under 50. 

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10 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Much as I am happy/resigned to joining in with the piss taking most of the time, I would like to point that the reason we don't have a 'singing section' , is that the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good and we don't actually need to tell people to stand or sit in a particular place to join in. Most of the noise does come from the Blackthorn end of course, but even then it still comes from different parts of the terrace and hearing all the other sides/tents join in isn't uncommon.

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere , fans asking where they should sit if they want to sing and even one saying he doesn't sing out of consideration for those around him (I mean, come on!) . 

I was at Bromley last week , we had a piss poor following and the home fans treated us to a 'One nil and you still don't sing'

I'm trying to see how I can make ' Top end of the table team for ages now with oodles of cash  a great big stadium, biggest attendances for years and inevitably bound for the Premier league and you still don't sing'  scan into a chant :)

 

Even you are starting to pedal the atmosphere bullshit now.

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13 minutes ago, Bicester Red said:

Not seen anything on here about this

But would SL really put loans over to the GASH

Those loaned players would not be liked if they played bad there

This could affect them

Plus I would never want a player from us to go there

There are so many other teams they can go on loan to

Would city be that silly to do it?

We have sent agents who probably did not know they were agents to the lot before. A pity we overpaid Akinde & Clarkson to start with  

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11 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Much as I am happy/resigned to joining in with the piss taking most of the time, I would like to point that the reason we don't have a 'singing section' , is that the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good and we don't actually need to tell people to stand or sit in a particular place to join in. Most of the noise does come from the Blackthorn end of course, but even then it still comes from different parts of the terrace and hearing all the other sides/tents join in isn't uncommon.

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere , fans asking where they should sit if they want to sing and even one saying he doesn't sing out of consideration for those around him (I mean, come on!) . 

I was at Bromley last week , we had a piss poor following and the home fans treated us to a 'One nil and you still don't sing'

I'm trying to see how I can make ' Top end of the table team for ages now with oodles of cash  a great big stadium, biggest attendances for years and inevitably bound for the Premier league and you still don't sing'  scan into a chant :)

 

When it’s good it’s very good Miah . I think you need to take into account the east end was out blackthorn end and it’s been demolished. Since then they’ve tried to recreate a home end . In the Atyeo at first and now section 82. Personally I think it should be extended and fingers crossed for safe standing 

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12 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Much as I am happy/resigned to joining in with the piss taking most of the time, I would like to point that the reason we don't have a 'singing section' , is that the atmosphere at Rovers when we are doing well still is pretty good and we don't actually need to tell people to stand or sit in a particular place to join in. Most of the noise does come from the Blackthorn end of course, but even then it still comes from different parts of the terrace and hearing all the other sides/tents join in isn't uncommon.

Considering there are regularly posts on here about lack of atmosphere , fans asking where they should sit if they want to sing and even one saying he doesn't sing out of consideration for those around him (I mean, come on!) . 

I was at Bromley last week , we had a piss poor following and the home fans treated us to a 'One nil and you still don't sing'

I'm trying to see how I can make ' Top end of the table team for ages now with oodles of cash  a great big stadium, biggest attendances for years and inevitably bound for the Premier league and you still don't sing'  scan into a chant :)

 

Miah, when your ground has terracing you can stand wherever you want; if you want to sing, you stand with a bunch of like-minded souls who have the same intent; if you don't like the people in your vicinity you can easily move. Once you've found a place that suits, you return to the same spot every match with the result that over the years, you stand alongside the same strangers, nod to them, discuss team selection, moan about the manager/referee/price of Fanta and not much more. You recognise them but you don't know their name, telephone number or where they live.

Then the terracing disappears and you move into an all seater stadium (you'll have to imagine this part) and you have to decide where you're going to buy your season ticket. You'd like, perhaps to be able to sit alongside the acquaintances with whom you're used to spending your Saturday afternoons but unless you've pre-planned  it, that's never going to happen. Thus kindred spirits face being split up so in anticipation, the club designate a 'singing area' which quickly attracts a number of 'not really singers but who like the thought of a noisy, irreverent afternoon' at the expense of later-off-of-the-mark dyed-in-the-wool yellers and shouters; The atmosphere changes all around the ground; people who've stood happily with others turning the air blue (with their language, you understand) suddenly find themselves sat next to a dad with his ten year old daughter or even worse, next to some sad old git who owns a scruffy, provincial computer shop; former singers in the choir find that they're now soloists.

A new stadium changes everything - certainly with big positives in our case, although the atmosphere does change and not consistently for the better. I wouldn't want to go back to the old AG though. The new stadium is a hundred thousand times better.

Enjoy the terracing at the Mem while you've got it, Miah. Those decades will quickly pass. ;)

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4 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Miah, when your ground has terracing you can stand wherever you want; if you want to sing, you stand with a bunch of like-minded souls who have the same intent; if you don't like the people in your vicinity you can easily move. Once you've found a place that suits, you return to the same spot every match with the result that over the years, you stand alongside the same strangers, nod to them, discuss team selection, moan about the manager/referee/price of Fanta and not much more. You recognise them but you don't know their name, telephone number or where they live.

Then the terracing disappears and you move into an all seater stadium (you'll have to imagine this part) and you have to decide where you're going to buy your season ticket. You'd like, perhaps to be able to sit alongside the acquaintances with whom you're used to spending your Saturday afternoons but unless you've pre-planned  it, that's never going to happen. Thus kindred spirits face being split up so in anticipation, the club designate a 'singing area' which quickly attracts a number of 'not really singers but who like the thought of a noisy, irreverent afternoon' at the expense of later-off-of-the-mark dyed-in-the-wool yellers and shouters; The atmosphere changes all around the ground; people who've stood happily with others turning the air blue (with their language, you understand) suddenly find themselves sat next to a dad with his ten year old daughter or even worse, next to some sad old git who owns a scruffy, provincial computer shop; former singers in the choir find that they're now soloists.

A new stadium changes everything - certainly with big positives in our case, although the atmosphere does change and not consistently for the better. I wouldn't want to go back to the old AG though. The new stadium is a hundred thousand times better.

Enjoy the terracing at the Mem while you've got it, Miah. Those decades will quickly pass. ;)

I do enjoy it, in fact I really like the Mem and will be sad to see us move (although I don't think we will in my lifetime). I like standing at games and I love Gloucester Road for post match beers. I shall be 55 years old next month and having had to say goodbye to one of my closest friends from Rovers at the age of 59 this season, football is now more than ever something to be enjoyed socially for me  rather than worrying about results (and believe me there was a time when Rovers results meant far more to me than they ever should have)

The downside to me for all that of course is that without a new stadium Rovers will probably never really  progress (and even if we did get one there are no guarantees), but that is something that is no longer so important to me.

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9 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

As I’ve mentioned in the past, I lived near the Mem for years so I know your games are not full of non stop deafening noise from the stands.

I've lived near the Mem for many years and I can tell you it's got progressively quieter and quieter. These days you'd scarcely know there's a game on. 

You just know to stay away from the Glos Road and local pubs on a match day, as we're generally a rather pleasant neighbourhood and they tend to be a bit, well, ill-mannered and scruffy to be honest. 

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