Vincent Vega Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: I can’t see it ever happening. There’s nothing in it for City, we don’t need them. And for Rovers? They would never want to support a club that plays at Ashton Gate owned by Steve Lansdown. If the 15ers go bust, then they either disappear or a small phoenix club will be formed. More of a shite hawk than a Phoenix actually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: More of a shite hawk than a Phoenix actually. The Gas phoenix 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: The Gas phoenix They'd have to have the camp pirate riding it on there somehow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I found myself around Horfield yesterday and thought I’d take my exercise around the Mem. Here are some of the photos I took of my visit..... 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 So we merge? What sags do we keep? Who would get in our line up? no one, what’s the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Taz said: They'd have to have the camp pirate riding it on there somehow.. Bit too much red in there for their liking too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I found myself around Horfield yesterday and thought I’d take my exercise around the Mem. Here are some of the photos I took of my visit..... Pitch is looking nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 30, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, alexukhc said: So we merge? What sags do we keep? Who would get in our line up? no one, what’s the point Would simply never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, phantom said: Would simply never happen They would just fold and we’d carry on as the one team in Bristol innit, still as Bristol City FC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 29/03/2020 at 10:19, steviestevieneville said: After your lot activity wanting us to go bust in 82 and trying to get your hands on Ashton gate. The block by rovers over a bail out by the council. I for one would celebrate joyously if you went bust ( not that I think it’ll happen) . Bring people together ! when it’s suits you and are in the shit. Boot on the other foot you’d have it on our throats . Not a chance in hell it would happen . totally agree .vile club vile fans hope they go bust soon . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 30, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Let's be realistic though they are a VERY long way away from folding Yes they are in a financial mess, but so are many other clubs up and down the country I wouldn't want them to go out of existence, because that puts an end to their suffering Let them drop through the leagues like Boston United did, years and years of suffering 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, BS2 Red said: I can’t see it ever happening. There’s nothing in it for City, we don’t need them. And for Rovers? They would never want to support a club that plays at Ashton Gate owned by Steve Lansdown. If the 15ers go bust, then they either disappear or a small phoenix club will be formed. What league would they be admitted to once reformed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: What league would they be admitted to once reformed? Downs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: What league would they be admitted to once reformed? Same as Hereford & Wimbledon? It was about tier 8 I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Same as Hereford & Wimbledon? It was about tier 8 I think. But they would call it Division 8 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: But they would call it Division 8 You would feel so sorry for the tiny teams in `Division 8` who would have to put up with the `loyal and true` descending on them and trashing their grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Southern league isn't it? Mangos and Paultons' level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: You would feel so sorry for the tiny teams in `Division 8` who would have to put up with the `loyal and true` descending on them and trashing their grounds. If they can't drum up more than 6k in div 3, I can't imagine too many turning up for a div 8 game. They would still take 10k away mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: If they can't drum up more than 6k in div 3, I can't imagine too many turning up for a div 8 game. They would still take 10k away mind. There were no end of problems with Hereford fans and to a certain extent Torquay when they were in Conference South so imagine their meatheads going to some village side...…...……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I would think any phoenix team would have to start up at level 8 or 9 - Southern League Division One or Western League Premier at best. But, if when it comes to it, they won't be that organised imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: There were no end of problems with Hereford fans and to a certain extent Torquay when they were in Conference South so imagine their meatheads going to some village side...…...……. Cricket on the village green would take on whole new meaning..... And the horses in nearby fields be bricking it too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I would think any phoenix team would have to start up at level 8 or 9 - Southern League Division One or Western League Premier at best. But, if when it comes to it, they won't be that organised imo. It's the apathy of their fans that will see them go under. Apathy and years of under investment. And they will still try and blame us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Anyways..... Ain't it a bit early for April fools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, archie andrews said: Cricket on the village green would take on whole new meaning..... And the horses in nearby fields be bricking it too... Not to mention the local canines. Then there is the question of where they will play once the mem has been sold as development land to repay the Wally family. Edited March 30, 2020 by wendyredredrobin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: There were no end of problems with Hereford fans and to a certain extent Torquay when they were in Conference South so imagine their meatheads going to some village side...…...……. You don’t need to imagine it...! Just watch the highlights from their 2014-15 season..! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Assuming Rovers go into liquidation, would Miah actually want to watch just one team in Bristol? When their stand caught fire and burnt down their trophy cabinet in the early 80s, they played at the Gate for a few matches. My memory might be different to the actual stats but I think they went from 6000 to just over 4000. The main reason for Rovers fans not attending was because they wouldn't attend a match at the Gate. Assuming that the trend continues on this hypothesis, an extra 4k would be healthy financially for Steve and of course Maggie. As a nod to Rovers fans, we could make our away kit either Blue n White quarters or Purple and Lime quarters. I get the feeling most would choose the latter! If anyone could design a purple n lime quartered shirt and post it, it would be interesting to see what it would look like. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Norn Iron said: As a nod to Rovers fans, we could make our away kit either Blue n White quarters or Purple and Lime quarters. I get the feeling most would choose the latter! If anyone could design a purple n lime quartered shirt and post it, it would be interesting to see what it would look like. Thanks! I think that isolation is affecting your rational though processes, Norn. Stay inside for a walk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 27/03/2020 at 08:42, Eddie Hitler said: Not this time Bert. Debt to Dwane Sports up to £16.2m from £13.1m. Interest payable on that £700k so 4.8% which isn't unreasonable now that a chunk of that is unsecured by exceeding the value of the ground; vaued at £11m. The going concern note is more standardised suggesting that it was less of an issue - Dwane Sports will have provided proof of funds. As above post operating loss before player sales £4m up from £3.6m but include the interest and it's £4.7m up from £4.1m. In some ways this a a smaller verison of the way that City runs its business with an acceptable ongoing budgeted loss; with our operating loss before player trading being a much larger £18m. So if the AQs are genuinely rich and are choosing to supprt Rovers as the Lansdowns support City then there is no reason to suppose that they won't keep going as they are. Obviously there remain the questions about the ground and the training ground but financially they're looking ok within the context of the mad world of football finances. Tbh I'm surprised as they are now very much underwater in terms of their investment but are continuing as they were. Also remember that this is 30 June 2019 so that debt is now going to be at least £20m vs the £11m valuation on the ground so approaching £10m underwater and they're unlikely to receiev that from selling. IIRC £6m was thr quoted figure paid. There were no post balance sheet events noted so if they have capitalised the loan it was after the date of signing being 20 Feb 2020. Quoting myself but I've revisited the accounts and the guarantee is there, again given by Hani, and buried away within the accounting policies. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Quoting myself but I've revisited the accounts and the guarantee is there, again given by Hani, and buried away within the accounting policies. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history Is that to June 2020 then, considering these accounts were for June 2019? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Quoting myself but I've revisited the accounts and the guarantee is there, again given by Hani, and buried away within the accounting policies. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history "confirmed his intention to maintain" Rather than "confirmed to maintain" Bit of a difference with one being a cop out and the other being definitive. Isn't the usual wording "guarantee to maintain support" ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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