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Bristol Rovers Dustbin Thread

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3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Foreign investors so I've heard...

We are all happy to accept your statements on this KITR and I am not doubting what you have been told, but I am honestly amazed at this, which foreign investors would be prepared to clear the debts of a team languishing in league 2. I don't see the potential there, even if they got everything right and everything was already in place, it would take them at least 3 years to get to the promised land and earn some decent money. If they are being sold a pup by Higgs, surely when they do their due diligence they would discover that. Maybe, and it's a big maybe, if they had Bristol to themselves or we were the poor neighbours there would be more potential, but that is not the situation and is unlikely ever to be so.

I can't even see an asset stripping option, I can't imagine they could make enough money out of selling the ground, to make it worthwhile for the amount they would have to pay Higgs and co to shift out of the way. I could only really see a group of dedicated Gasheads with a bit of cash ever investing.

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 robin 
12:43PM
Love the lightning. :laugh:!

Gassssss 
1:00PM
Your team is the most despised in the league. You cheat , play dire football , have a shitty ground in an ugly town. Your supporters are thugs.
We will whip your asses again.

The sooner your relagated and go out of business the better.

mooneyman 
1:04PM
Like you whipped our mighty non league neighbours Chesham United a couple of weeks ago!

floyd 
1:14PM
A Bristol Rovers fan accusing another club of cheating is almost unbelievable.

This is the Bristol Rovers who, following their relegation, cost our club thousands of pounds we could ill-afford to spend, on ridiculous, trumped-up, poorly written, nonsense claims. They would have happily seen us go out of business to save their own skin. Their actions were an embarrassment to the majority of their fan-base, and to lower league football in general.

The whole thing makes me sick.

EwanHoosaami 
1:20PM
Us, a shitty ground? That's rich coming from a Rovers fan! If that was the adjective you used for the access to our stadium, then you would at least have a valid point. By the way, which branch of Sainsburys do you use?

 robin 
1:24PM
Our supporters are thugs? Which grounds have we tried wrecking like the horse punching knuckle dragging neanderthals from the blue part of Bristol? At Plymouth eaerlier in the season they attacked families in a park after the game,stay classy gas!

 Ciderk1d 
1:44PM edited 1:47PM
@Gassssss, but it's my team. In fact a Fan's team.

MindlessDrugHoover 
2:40PM
Small town near Chesham / We're just a small town near Chesham.

fedup1980 
3:02PM edited 3:03PM
@Gassssss my only concern for tonight is when we win, will your chairman try and have the game declared void because we once changed our kit from quarters to halves?

 crabbie 
3:29PM
Are Brizzle still sulking that we wore the quarters first and they didn't get included in the top football shirt poll, I don't know thunder storm in a tea cup why don't they just oh I don't know maybe just 'Live Well for Less'

 bill_stickers 
3:43PM
@Gassssss

Most of your claims and opinions are purely subjective, even if I disagree with everything you have said.

However, to say our fans are thugs shows you really are blind in your views.

We probably have the best behaved fans in the football league. A solitary banning order last season, and no major crowd trouble incidents for two decades.

On the other hand, Bristol Rovers fans have regularly acted disgracefully in both the Football League and the Conference, whether its attacking goalkeepers, punching horses, invading pitches or fighting outside grounds.

niebieski 
5:03PM edited 5:08PM
2013/14 season, one club had 57 football related arrests, one had 0.
2014/15 season, one club had 15 football related arrests, one had 1.

I suppose on those stats, Bristol have had a 75% reduction in misbehavior, whereas we've had a 100% rise! Looks like I've got my Sun headline!

(Stats from https://data.gov.uk/dataset/football-banning-orders)

MindlessDrugHoover 
5:29PM
Drizzle Rovers' arrests only went down last season because so few of their fans could find Welling, Alfreton, Nuneaton or Telford on the map.

 BSE 
5:29PM edited 5:35PM
Ingram/Richardson injured maybe?


Edit:
Then again maybe not think I might have jumped to a conclusion a bit fast there, more than likely no games left during his loan period so might as well get him back.

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Having seen Coombsy's post I really wanted the Gas to lose even more than usual. Shame that :(, I am sure the Gashead will be back on twitter boasting of their defeat of the mighty Wycombe. 

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3 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

While we continue to deservedly mock, the fact remains they could go up this season, even if its via the play offs :shutup: we should pray to SL/SC that we aren't there to meet them.:fingerscrossed:

Nice try Darrell....:thumbsup:

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"Drizzle Rovers' arrests only went down last season because so few of their fans could find Welling, Alfreton, Nuneaton or Telford on the map. "

 

I do like that :D

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An amended version of UWE Stadium has been unveiled and the revised plan is perfect for the Rovers team & supporters.

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58 minutes ago, 22A said:

An amended version of UWE Stadium has been unveiled and the revised plan is perfect for the Rovers team & supporters.

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Looks like a bowl to me.

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On 29/11/2015, 10:16:50, Coombsy said:


20 hours ago severncider said:
Before the AGM, NH arrived and came straight over to three of us and had a wide ranging discussion and answered all the questions we asked, we did not ask him the questions we had prepared. After the AGM he came up to me and spent about 10 mins answering some more questions, nothing appeared to be off limits. He said:-

1 – The MSP loan is not being repaid in instalments. The interest is being added to the capital sum and will be repaid at the latest by the third quarter day of 2016 which I take to be 29th September 2016. So you work out the total cost, £2.6m @ 1.2% per month over a maximum period of 21 months. He did say that if the sale of The Mem went through earlier it would be repaid immediately and the balance of the sale would be used to build UWE. 

2 – The takeover/consortium talks are advanced and going well. I have no idea if the investors NH is talking about is the Consortium that several of us have been talking about. They may be or maybe not separate entities.

3 – As and when the investment/takeover takes place he did say that although he wasn’t sure, he didn’t believe any shares would be available to fans. I find that difficult to accept if true, as it would bar fans from buying shares and attending any AGM. Also, BRSC would have no stake in BRFC.

4 – The funding will be in place, no matter what decision is made by the Appeal Court AND that the stadium will be for 21,700 as originally planned and fully fitted out

5 – He indicated that as and when the talks are successfully concluded, that a start date for building UWE could be between February and June 2016. The first date seems very ambitious, even if an investment/takeover is completed by the end of December 2015. I have said many times, quoting dates is a nonsense as it tends to “bit you on the bum” when the date quoted fails to materialise.

6 – We asked “what if two offers are received and they both met the financial requirements, ie £40+ million in a bank account acceptable to BRFC, would an EGM be called to enable Shareholders to consider both offers and give their views?”. NH said not necessarily. I found this answer amazing, yes NH holds around 54% of the voting shares so will always win in a “card vote”. However does he not owe a duty to all the Shareholders to let them know what has been offered and for them to have their say. NH seems to think not.

I think that covers everything else.

Takeover talks are going well?! I though he denied it very recently?!

As the sale of the Mem was not covering the full cost of UWE and extra funds were required when the plans were first drawn up, I'm struggling to see how the sale of the Mem - the Wonga loan repayment now will fully finance their move.

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1 hour ago, 22A said:

An amended version of UWE Stadium has been unveiled and the revised plan is perfect for the Rovers team & supporters.

12316174_10206826567015370_1343520949506

That one is going to be built on land owned by the University of the Turd Age.

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11 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

As the sale of the Mem was not covering the full cost of UWE and extra funds were required when the plans were first drawn up, I'm struggling to see how the sale of the Mem - the Wonga loan repayment now will fully finance their move.

Repeat after me:

Nick Higgs is an unrecognised financial genius

Nick Higgs is an unrecognised financial genius

Nick Higgs is an unrecognised financial genius

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17 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Repeat after me:

Nick Higgs is an unrecognised financial genius

Nick Higgs is an unrecognised financial genius

Nick Higgs is an unrecognised financial genius

You got the first three words correct

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It has come to my attention that the "great unwashed" don't have a game this weekend.  Would someone be kind enough to explain how this unlikely turn of events has come about.

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1 minute ago, Malago said:

It has come to my attention that the "great unwashed" don't have a game this weekend.  Would someone be kind enough to explain how this unlikely turn of events has come about.

Have they received a bye to the third round?

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5 minutes ago, Super said:

Have they received a bye to the third round?

Must have.  I forget how many they won by in the first round but it was presumably a hatfull as they were playing some tiddler in the same league as Paulton Rovers.

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10 minutes ago, Malago said:

It has come to my attention that the "great unwashed" don't have a game this weekend.  Would someone be kind enough to explain how this unlikely turn of events has come about.

I can do that for you in two words...... Chesham United.

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3 minutes ago, pride of the west said:

Imagine if UWE had enough of the complete ball ache that is bristol rovers fc and just scrap any agreement they had. And sainsburys were forced to buy the mem. Where would that leave the pikeys? Surely any agreement with UWE must be close to expiry?

Think UWE can pull out anytime they want.

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2 hours ago, Super said:

Think UWE can pull out anytime they want.

Thing is, why on Earth would they want to do that? Possibility of a 22000 all seater stadium on the campus in exchange for a bit of land without the annoyance of actually having to get too involved in the legal battle. Even if they lose to Sainsburys Higgs, Sexton and co seem confident of securing the funding from elsewhere.

Id have thought UWE were in a relatively no lose situation with all this.

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42 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Thing is, why on Earth would they want to do that? Possibility of a 22000 all seater stadium on the campus in exchange for a bit of land without the annoyance of actually having to get too involved in the legal battle. Even if they lose to Sainsburys Higgs, Sexton and co seem confident of securing the funding from elsewhere.

Id have thought UWE were in a relatively no lose situation with all this.

 

Peter, let me put this one to bed once and for all by categorically denying that I am not a member of the consortium.

I do however admit to having a Dyson Cinetic Big Ball. 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Thing is, why on Earth would they want to do that? Possibility of a 22000 all seater stadium on the campus in exchange for a bit of land without the annoyance of actually having to get too involved in the legal battle. Even if they lose to Sainsburys Higgs, Sexton and co seem confident of securing the funding from elsewhere.

Id have thought UWE were in a relatively no lose situation with all this.

Very true, although maybe only if you have confidence in a credit-worthy tenant. Otherwise you may fear being left with a white elephant which is not cheap to run and presumably with a very limited market for alternative tenants.

Without Sainsbury's money maybe the conclusion would be different.

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On ‎27‎/‎11‎/‎2015‎ ‎21‎:‎22‎:‎41, Coombsy said:

3 hours ago via mobile 
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Nick Higgs on the Stadium at last night's Supporters Club AGM: The hearing at the Court of Appeal is about holding Sainsbury's to the original terms of the contract, £30.05 million. It is not about compensation although he did add the club will be seeking an extra £5 million to compensate them for delays, rising costs etc. The hearing will be heard by a panel of three judges who will listen to the solicitors arguments. If we win Sainsbury's do technically have the right to appeal to the Supreme Court or the European Court of Human Rights but they are not certain to get a hearing and probably wouldn't go that far because of the negative PR. Interestingly he added that there around 20-30 other organisations who are suffering from a Sainsbury's change of mind who are waiting to see how our appeal goes before commencing their own action against them.
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Off top of my head so don't be hard on me!

NH - Court case either 26/27th Jan with 3 judges
NH - All or nothing case - Win - get circa £35 (inc costs etc) Lose - Get fukk all
NH - Confident of winning
NH - If lose there is a Plan B but will not go into details
NH - The AVG thingy shouldnt be a problem
NH - The contract with UWE has elapsed
NH - Have been approached by at least 12 interested parties 
BB - Shop takings well up 
BB - we're going to Sabadell and fun shall be had by all

DC -GK position is a massive concern
DC -2 players have deals for next season
DC -Rotation of squad will continue as its his way
DC - Still demanding his players get top 7 finish
DC - 154 corners 1 goal  I'm gutted!
DC - Lines gets drawn back too often/Ellis just needs a clip round ear now and again/New lad (ginger) could do well/We're so close to being a good side/Fine margins/ Get the bloody beers in!

Goodnight and UTG - JTS

 

Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/4245/supporters-club-agm#ixzz3sjGvp2GH

See the bit in bold

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12 hours ago, BCFC Jordan said:

Dale Vince reckons Forest Green can attract fans from North Bristol in the long run. Probably right, to be fair! :)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35011453

£5.4 million in debt? A non-league club! I don't know how that is sustainable, I know their owner has some cash but I don't imagine he is in the SL category.....

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3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

£5.4 million in debt? A non-league club! I don't know how that is sustainable, I know their owner has some cash but I don't imagine he is in the SL category.....

Journalists are lazy on this; they don't specify to whom the debt is owed.

If you own a club then the most tax-efficient way of putting money into it to cover losses is as debt; because should the club ever have money that you can take out then you just repay your own debt.  There's no tax on it; unlike a dividend payment or a salary.

Unless these debts are owed to a third party then they're only technically debts. In reality they're historic accumulated losses that the owner has funded with his own money.

Hence the Bolton owner writing off £180m of "debt", Steve Lansdown converting his " debt" to equity (which means accepting that he's not getting it back), and Nick Higgs demanding that all of his "debt" gets repaid if there's a sale.

Spot the odd one out.

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13 hours ago, BCFC Jordan said:

Dale Vince reckons Forest Green can attract fans from North Bristol in the long run. Probably right, to be fair! :)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35011453

If they remained at Nailsworth he might be right, but they are moving to a new ground by the M5. These sort of grounds are a nightmare for transport. Usually a long queue to get into and out of the car park. Just about bearable if you're a dedicated fan, but not for a casual visitor. I occasionally watch Forest Green at Nailsworth but I would not be keen to go to the new ground.  

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17 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

If they remained at Nailsworth he might be right, but they are moving to a new ground by the M5. These sort of grounds are a nightmare for transport. Usually a long queue to get into and out of the car park. Just about bearable if you're a dedicated fan, but not for a casual visitor. I occasionally watch Forest Green at Nailsworth but I would not be keen to go to the new ground.  

And inaccessible by public transport. Very green :( 

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1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

£5.4 million in debt? A non-league club! I don't know how that is sustainable, I know their owner has some cash but I don't imagine he is in the SL category.....

He's not, but it might be early days. Perhaps not dissimilar to when SL first joined the board and HL was unrecognisable then from now. 

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This thread has gone very quiet.

They're having a few digs at us on Asschat. Don't know why they don't just concentrate on their own match today, not that I could find their result anywhere.

 

 

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12 hours ago, MrBibs said:

This thread has gone very quiet.

They're having a few digs at us on Asschat. Don't know why they don't just concentrate on their own match today, not that I could find their result anywhere.

 

 

They must have got a bye to the third round since they`re so massive and play in da famous quarterz and all.

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21 hours ago, 29AR said:

He's not, but it might be early days. Perhaps not dissimilar to when SL first joined the board and HL was unrecognisable then from now. 

The thing about Dale Vince is he is an environmentalist first and a businessman second. I believe he still owns the majority of Ecotrocity, and rather than paying dividends etc he reinvests most money in the business and other green schemes, such as the free charging stations in the motorway services. He is therefore rich on paper, but not in cash. This will therefore limit the amount of money he can put into Forest Green. 

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37 minutes ago, Stoke_Gifford_Red said:

The thing about Dale Vince is he is an environmentalist first and a businessman second. I believe he still owns the majority of Ecotrocity, and rather than paying dividends etc he reinvests most money in the business and other green schemes, such as the free charging stations in the motorway services. He is therefore rich on paper, but not in cash. This will therefore limit the amount of money he can put into Forest Green. 

I love the way he doesn`t give a **** about what he looks like in interviews and that. he always reminds me of someone in The Levellers.

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32 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

I love the way he doesn`t give a **** about what he looks like in interviews and that. he always reminds me of someone in The Levellers.

He was a hippy traveller for many years before starting the green business; there was a court case this year where his wife of the travelling years sued for a pay out from teh money he had earrned since.

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23 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 and Nick Higgs demanding that all of his "debt" gets repaid if there's a sale.

 

Quoting myself I know but thinking about this, Higgs' attitide really puts Rovers in a hole.

We are making stonking losses which is not good but Steve is covering them whilst reducing them annually so no harm done.

Rovers are making much smaller losses ?half a million a year? but they will mount up.  There was talk of somebody wanting to invest £40m in the gas recently.  Now that does not mean £40m to buy the club, it means £40m all-in.

So (estimating the figures) from the £40m they currently have:

  • £10m to buy the Memorial Ground
  • £5m to buy the club
  • £5m to repay Higgs
  • £5m to repay external debts
  • £15m to build a new stadium and invest in the club

Every time they make a loss the amount required to repay Higgs external debts goes up, and the amount to buy the stadium and invest in the club goes down.  Give it another ten years with Higgs at the helm and that £15m will be down below £10m as the debts are ratcheting up steadily.

Who'd be a bluenose?

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7 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

He was a hippy traveller for many years before starting the green business; there was a court case this year where his wife of the travelling years sued for a pay out from teh money he had earrned since.

 

5 minutes ago, Super said:

 

She`s stuck to her non-materialistic, anti-establishment free roving lifestyle attitudes then.

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