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Bristol Rovers Dustbin Thread


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2 minutes ago, I'm Sparti-Bob said:

Very concisely put, and possibly one for Twentyman to broach next time he invites Hamer or Wally onto his show (not that I expect either to answer with any honesty or clarity).

I can practically hear Hamer's answer now: a twenty minute ramble bringing in some dated cultural references talking about football finance in general terms, parachute payments, how small clubs can't compete, problems at other clubs, how he found his lost sock under the bed that morning.  Everything but answer the question. 

And to give him his credit he is a decent and avuncular speaker who has over many years mastered the art of saying nothing at great length but in an entertaining way.

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6 minutes ago, red'tili'mdead said:

 

I'm fairly certain they have had it chaps.

From the latest noises emanating from Chernobyl,  it appears to be a fire sale and if a buyer cannot be found very quickly then all subsequent options will v bad news for the Blue Few.

I genuinely believe that within 12-24 months they will end up 'back where they belong' - ground sharing with Bath City in L2.

Obv we are going to laugh long and hard in the short term, but celebrating the financial demise of any football club (even them!) leaves a bit of a nasty taste. 

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting we give them any 'help' (we all remember '82 etc) but should we really 'gloat' if / when the brown stuff finally hits the fan.......

 

Don’t worry,a nasty taste in the mouth can be easily remedied by a glug of mouthwash .

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20 minutes ago, red'tili'mdead said:

 

I'm fairly certain they have had it chaps.

From the latest noises emanating from Chernobyl,  it appears to be a fire sale and if a buyer cannot be found very quickly then all subsequent options will v bad news for the Blue Few.

I genuinely believe that within 12-24 months they will end up 'back where they belong' - ground sharing with Bath City in L2.

Obv we are going to laugh long and hard in the short term, but celebrating the financial demise of any football club (even them!) leaves a bit of a nasty taste. 

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting we give them any 'help' (we all remember '82 etc) but should we really 'gloat' if / when the brown stuff finally hits the fan.......

 

 

Yeah right.

Good luck with that then!

 

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23 minutes ago, red'tili'mdead said:

 

I'm fairly certain they have had it chaps.

From the latest noises emanating from Chernobyl,  it appears to be a fire sale and if a buyer cannot be found very quickly then all subsequent options will v bad news for the Blue Few.

I genuinely believe that within 12-24 months they will end up 'back where they belong' - ground sharing with Bath City in L2.

Obv we are going to laugh long and hard in the short term, but celebrating the financial demise of any football club (even them!) leaves a bit of a nasty taste. 

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting we give them any 'help' (we all remember '82 etc) but should we really 'gloat' if / when the brown stuff finally hits the fan.......

 

Probably the best thing for them, Bath are going renovate the ground and they can assume the title of their alter ego Bath Rovers or of course Bath might take them over and become Bath City league 2 team?.

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12 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Am I correct in thinking that Dwayne Sports is an offshore company holds a charge on the mem for around £10m then charges BRFC £600k pa interest on that loan? 

What was that £10m loan actually spent on and are any tax dodges or complex tax avoidance schemes involved?

The Panama papers and Paradise papers are causing quite a stir in respect of these kinds of things.

Are any other companies involved?

If it is listed debt on the Jersey exchange then it may have corp tax benefits in respect of loan interest and witholding taxes. But that's been around and known of for years - have a look at some of the companies you see with listed debts. Even as a City fan I wouldn't raise an eyebrow at that or wrap my chips in what it says in the newspaper.

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56 minutes ago, red'tili'mdead said:

.Obv we are going to laugh long and hard in the short term, but celebrating the financial demise of any football club (even them!) leaves a bit of a nasty taste. 

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting we give them any 'help' (we all remember '82 etc) but should we really 'gloat' if / when the brown stuff finally hits the fan.......

 

I don’t think for one second that they will go under, however if the shit was to hit the fan big time I’d have much more sympathy for them if they hadn’t constantly thrown 1982 in our face for the last 30 odd years.

 

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2 hours ago, B block said:

I’m not psychic but I predict the following 

Wally will sell up

some other dubious muppet will buy them for a pound

promuse them the earth, give it the I’ve always loved the gas blah blah blah

gas chat will lap it up, wally will still be the saviour who handed over the baton

mr tan or whoever will be dragged around as the new messiah while they play at Weston and mutter were coming for you

They have approached another Sheikh........

Image result for shakin stevens

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23 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

I don’t think for one second that they will go under, however if the shit was to hit the fan big time I’d have much more sympathy for them if they hadn’t constantly thrown 1982 in our face for the last 30 odd years.

 

The thing is nobody ever goes under as in disappeared and gone.  Accrington Stanley, Bradford Park Avenue, Aldershot all still going.

So even if they imploded financially with a massive "whump": ground seized, players released from contracts, Santa's Grotto auctioned off to the highest bidder, Sinclair reclaiming his begging patch etc. then with their crowds they would get a berth in something like the Southern League Premier Division or only two leagues below where they were a couple of years' ago.  All they need to do is rally behind a reformed club founded by the Supporters Club; put some financial guarnatees in place, recruit some semi-pro players and they're off again.

There is no "end" for clubs as long as they have supporters.

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5 hours ago, citysimmo said:

My boy used to play there for Coalpit Heath and it was a nightmare for flooding. As soon as there was any sort of rain at least two of the pitches would be unplayable

So the sags will be right at home there then. They're used to kick and rush on a bog.

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1 hour ago, red'tili'mdead said:

 

I'm fairly certain they have had it chaps.

From the latest noises emanating from Chernobyl,  it appears to be a fire sale and if a buyer cannot be found very quickly then all subsequent options will v bad news for the Blue Few.

I genuinely believe that within 12-24 months they will end up 'back where they belong' - ground sharing with Bath City in L2.

Obv we are going to laugh long and hard in the short term, but celebrating the financial demise of any football club (even them!) leaves a bit of a nasty taste. 

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting we give them any 'help' (we all remember '82 etc) but should we really 'gloat' if / when the brown stuff finally hits the fan.......

 

er - yes!

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29 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

This 'ole Mem

Coming to a record shop near you.

Saw an eyeball peep in through a smoky cloud behind the green door (Green door)
When I said Joe sent me some one laughed out loud behind the green door (Ooh, green door)
All I want to do is join the happy crowd behind the green door (Green door)

 

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1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said:

The thing is nobody ever goes under as in disappeared and gone.  Accrington Stanley, Bradford Park Avenue, Aldershot all still going.

So even if they imploded financially with a massive "whump": ground seized, players released from contracts, Santa's Grotto auctioned off to the highest bidder, Sinclair reclaiming his begging patch etc. then with their crowds they would get a berth in something like the Southern League Premier Division or only two leagues below where they were a couple of years' ago.  All they need to do is rally behind a reformed club founded by the Supporters Club; put some financial guarnatees in place, recruit some semi-pro players and they're off again.

There is no "end" for clubs as long as they have supporters.

The precedents are that new clubs now tend to start no higher than the equivalent of Western League Premier. Recently, that’s where reformed Aldershot, Hereford and Salisbury restarted (probably a few more but that’ll do for an example). It causes problems with away attendances but usually only for one season, if you are the best funded by miles you tend to get promoted. 

In one respect I like the way it spreads the money around, every other team in that league gets a bumper home gate. I know in Hereford’s season in the Midland League the attendance for their game at a club was invariably more than the rest of the season’s home gates combined. In other respects it’s daft, clubs with home gates of 100 usually can’t cope with (say) 500 visiting supporters (and since most games are local that can easily happen). Throw in a bit of bad behaviour from the visitors and it’s a bad recipe.

Should the implosion happen I think relocation to Twerton is very likely, followed by rapid amalgamation of the clubs should the EFL be content for Bath City to take over the sags’s EFL persona.

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5 minutes ago, Bianconeri said:

The precedents are that new clubs now tend to start no higher than the equivalent of Western League Premier. Recently, that’s where reformed Aldershot, Hereford and Salisbury restarted (probably a few more but that’ll do for an example). It causes problems with away attendances but usually only for one season, if you are the best funded by miles you tend to get promoted. 

In one respect I like the way it spreads the money around, every other team in that league gets a bumper home gate. I know in Hereford’s season in the Midland League the attendance for their game at a club was invariably more than the rest of the season’s home gates combined. In other respects it’s daft, clubs with home gates of 100 usually can’t cope with (say) 500 visiting supporters (and since most games are local that can easily happen). Throw in a bit of bad behaviour from the visitors and it’s a bad recipe.

Should the implosion happen I think relocation to Twerton is very likely, followed by rapid amalgamation of the clubs should the EFL be content for Bath City to take over the sags’s EFL persona.

Oh no does that mean those pikeys might be coming to Wellington next season? :shutup: :gasmask: @Andy Horsman

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27 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said:

Being in Gloucestershire they may have to apply for the Hellenic League 

Hellenic Premier fits the bill, level 9, but as a Bath-based team I suppose it would be Western Premier. We can hope they end up ground squatting in somewhere like Aberdeen I suppose.

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19 minutes ago, Bianconeri said:

Hellenic Premier fits the bill, level 9, but as a Bath-based team I suppose it would be Western Premier. We can hope they end up ground squatting in somewhere like Aberdeen I suppose.

Hah! In the Highland League with Brora Rangers, Fort WIlliam and WIck Academy, see how many they take away then :) . 

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7 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

4000 obviously.

I remember reading an interview with someone associated with the Wick Academy where they said that they were struggling with attendances due to the travelling distances involved, especially as they had lost their only local derby with the rise of Inverness Caledonian Thistle. It's 110 miles and 2 1/4hr drive to Inverness...... that's some "local" derby. :) 

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2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I remember reading an interview with someone associated with the Wick Academy where they said that they were struggling with attendances due to the travelling distances involved, especially as they had lost their only local derby with the rise of Inverness Caledonian Thistle. It's 110 miles and 2 1/4hr drive to Inverness...... that's some "local" derby. :) 

Truro must be in that world of pain too. I think their ‘derby’ this season is with WSM, must be a 300 mile round trip.

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5 hours ago, red'tili'mdead said:

 

I'm fairly certain they have had it chaps.

From the latest noises emanating from Chernobyl,  it appears to be a fire sale and if a buyer cannot be found very quickly then all subsequent options will v bad news for the Blue Few.

I genuinely believe that within 12-24 months they will end up 'back where they belong' - ground sharing with Bath City in L2.

Obv we are going to laugh long and hard in the short term, but celebrating the financial demise of any football club (even them!) leaves a bit of a nasty taste. 

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting we give them any 'help' (we all remember '82 etc) but should we really 'gloat' if / when the brown stuff finally hits the fan.......

 

Yeah ****** right we should. 

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11 minutes ago, Bianconeri said:

Truro must be in that world of pain too. I think their ‘derby’ this season is with WSM, must be a 300 mile round trip.

I know a fan who told me that their combined distance of all away games (and he goes to pretty much all of them) would actually be lower in Conference North than their current in Conference South; with all those trips to Kent, London and East Anglia.

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Will be another Hereford Utd!

reform as Bristol Rovers 2018 ltd and have to work their way up the football pyramid. In the meantime we capture any new local young fans and move forward as a Premier league club, ground expansion with regular 35k crowds and attractive fixtures across Europe - Madrid, Milan, Munich, Paris etc.....

The vision!!!

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7 minutes ago, INCRED said:

Will be another Hereford Utd!

reform as Bristol Rovers 2018 ltd and have to work their way up the football pyramid. In the meantime we capture any new local young fans and move forward as a Premier league club, ground expansion with regular 35k crowds and attractive fixtures across Europe - Madrid, Milan, Munich, Paris etc.....

The vision!!!

That was a deeply arousing sentence. We can dream!

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