Portland Bill Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 9 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: There is no way the FA will start taking points off of other clubs in regards to results against Bolton this season. That would be chaotic, nonsensical and asking for trouble Hold on, it's the F.A. It happened in the Northern Premier League this season when North Ferriby Utd folded. So it’s quite feasible. 1 hour ago, wayne allisons tongues said: Do Brentford get there expenses refunded for Saturday as well as there fans. if Bolton don’t play next week do Nottm Forest get compensation lost gate receipts, hospitality, season ticket refunds. This could be very messy for the EFL https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-5--fixtures/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, wayne allisons tongues said: Do Brentford get there expenses refunded for Saturday as well as there fans. if Bolton don’t play next week do Nottm Forest get compensation lost gate receipts, hospitality, season ticket refunds. This could be very messy for the EFL Copy and pasted from the EFL site. The Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend such fixture shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses actually incurred by the opposing Club as a direct result of the failure or suspension. The amount of compensation will be at the discretion of the Board who will consider every such case on its merits. The Board may refer the amount of compensation to be paid to the Disciplinary Commission dealing with the misconduct by the Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Portland Bill said: Copy and pasted from the EFL site. The Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend such fixture shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses actually incurred by the opposing Club as a direct result of the failure or suspension. The amount of compensation will be at the discretion of the Board who will consider every such case on its merits. The Board may refer the amount of compensation to be paid to the Disciplinary Commission dealing with the misconduct by the Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend the same. Ashton is on the board isn't he? So he'll be having direct involvement in this whole affair. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 If their results were wiped out we would lose 4 points, Derby 3 and Middlesborough 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 The amount of money in the fa or players union and they can step in to pay the players to protect the interest of the game, fulfill the fixture and respect thefans ? I appreciate its not their mess but surely cancelling games this late in the season is somehow avoidable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Portland Bill said: It happened in the Northern Premier League this season when North Ferriby Utd folded. So it’s quite feasible. https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-5--fixtures/ There were a lot more games to go when that happened though so awarding 3-0 walkovers in all of them would have made the league a joke. IMO they`ll do the 3-0 thing in this case and sort it out in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 27, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Portland Bill said: Copy and pasted from the EFL site. The Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend such fixture shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses actually incurred by the opposing Club as a direct result of the failure or suspension. The amount of compensation will be at the discretion of the Board who will consider every such case on its merits. The Board may refer the amount of compensation to be paid to the Disciplinary Commission dealing with the misconduct by the Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend the same. If they can’t pay their players, they are unlikely to pay compensation to anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 hours ago, BCFC Richard said: If their results were wiped out we would lose 4 points, Derby 3 and Middlesborough 6. How can the clubs who have already got points from them lose those points whilst the two clubs yet to play them get given three points each ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 hours ago, pillred said: I attended what was supposed to be our last game it was at Newport county. the date was 30th January 1982, less than a week later the Ashton Gate eight tore up their contracts to save the club. From the depths of despair to the heights of pride. Long live the AG8 in our collective memory. Heroes all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Portland Bill said: Copy and pasted from the EFL site. The Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend such fixture shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses actually incurred by the opposing Club as a direct result of the failure or suspension. The amount of compensation will be at the discretion of the Board who will consider every such case on its merits. The Board may refer the amount of compensation to be paid to the Disciplinary Commission dealing with the misconduct by the Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend the same. 1 hour ago, Maesknoll Red said: If they can’t pay their players, they are unlikely to pay compensation to anyone else. When M'boro missed the game due to Illness, as I said above , they were docked 3 points (the game was replayed , ended 0-0) and fined £50k in 1996/97. I guess the fine would be against the club, so if someone comes in and saves them, they would be liable, otherwise it would be against their assets if they fold. Sounds a real mess, but there maybe light at the end of the tunnel and not just an oncoming train..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: How can the clubs who have already got points from them lose those points whilst the two clubs yet to play them get given three points each ? Course they can. Bristol City lose out. That's the other EFL rule isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: When M'boro missed the game due to Illness, as I said above , they were docked 3 points (the game was replayed , ended 0-0) and fined £50k in 1996/97. I guess the fine would be against the club, so if someone comes in and saves them, they would be liable, otherwise it would be against their assets if they fold. Sounds a real mess, but there maybe light at the end of the tunnel and not just an oncoming train..... The new ‘owners’ track record suggests this could be a frying pan / fire scenario for Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: How can the clubs who have already got points from them lose those points whilst the two clubs yet to play them get given three points each ? They wouldn't. It's either give 3-0 walkovers to Forest and Brentford OR void all of Bolton's previous games and the ones against Brentford and Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: The new ‘owners’ track record suggests this could be a frying pan / fire scenario for Bolton. Absolutely, read a bit yesterday about his link with Simon Jordan and Portsmouth. Wouldn't trust either one to be honest, and they can't even agree who said what. Bassini does not strike me as fit and proper, more desperate and needy. But I think Bolton are desperate enough to take anyone right now, maybe short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Owl Visiting said: Could there be a scramble over the weekend to get it rearranged for Tuesday? The problem with any punishment that comes their way, is that it will likely come into force next season when their current owner is gone. Teams being deducted points before the start of the season might come in handy for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Sad sad day reading this, as some on the forum know , I had a pub in Westhoughton, round the corner from the old 'Reebok'. Brilliant supporters, great club and to come down to this certainly reminds me of our fall in 1982. Hope they get on their feet again and like us, come back. Always remember the respect I had in the pub with my Bristol City corner in the pool room proudly with a framed programme from the famous Freight Rover final v The Trotters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 It would be a crime if Bolton folded. League founder member and a grand old club. Hope they can be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 EFL just announced that Bolton HAVE to complete all games. Even if U-18 players have to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Interesting they also stated that players can give notice to walk away if not paid and 1 player has already submitted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 My first footie match - Bolton Vs Stoke circa 1957 - very sad day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 As @Dastardly and Muttley said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 15 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Meanwhile, in North Bristol, Wael will be eyeing a potentially vacant football stadium and wondering how Bolton Rovers will be received by the blue few. Well, they take 20,000 away anyway, so financially, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, extonsred said: My first footie match - Bolton Vs Stoke circa 1957 - very sad day!! Why?, what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Sad day today - not then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, extonsred said: My first footie match - Bolton Vs Stoke circa 1957 - very sad day!! I remember taking my young nephew to his first ever game when we beat them 4-1 in the old 1st division. As you say, these are sad times for football. Sadder still when someone like Bassini is considered a “saviour” for a club with their tradition. If he comes back into football, will the FA force him to pay the money he apparently owes Watford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, oldstandrobin said: Sad sad day reading this, as some on the forum know , I had a pub in Westhoughton, round the corner from the old 'Reebok'. Brilliant supporters, great club and to come down to this certainly reminds me of our fall in 1982. Hope they get on their feet again and like us, come back. Always remember the respect I had in the pub with my Bristol City corner in the pool room proudly with a framed programme from the famous Freight Rover final v The Trotters. I was there with Dad and Gramps. Got the programme in the loft along with my Wembley rosette! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Nicki's soulmate said: Why?, what happened? He had to spend the day in Bolton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: They wouldn't. It's either give 3-0 walkovers to Forest and Brentford OR void all of Bolton's previous games and the ones against Brentford and Forest Surely that decision needs to be made before today's games otherwise the EFL will be able to decide who is in the play offs by the decision they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Surely that decision needs to be made before today's games otherwise the EFL will be able to decide who is in the play offs by the decision they make. It may be that another decision is made, I was just meaning to clarify that it wouldn't be a case that results for some teams get voided, while others are handed a win. I wasn't too clear in my post though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: It would be a crime if Bolton folded. League founder member and a grand old club. Hope they can be saved. The crime was spending money for a decade they didn't have and could never pay back. We can't feel sympathy for stupidity or perhaps worse, otherwise let's feel sorry for Woolworths and all the other failed historic brands. They made their bed, they gambled time and time again and lost - they should pay the penalty arguably other clubs lost out to them in the last 5 years because they cheated financially. Good riddance to them (and QPR and Villa) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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