BigTone Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: A European Super League is a very interesting point. I just don't imagine the current top flight TV deal is worth anything like it is at the moment if the top 6 were to leave. Could we see a huge amount of money leave the domestic game? Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 16 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I wonder how they came up with 1-0? It used to be the case that an unfulfilled fixture resulted in a 3-0 win to the opposition. They seemed to have made up the rules off the cuff. As said this new ruling sets a dangerous precedence, it just couldn't be applied if to-morrows fixtures, or similar were so dependent on 3 points. If a club fails to fulfill a fixture in these circumstances or similar it cannot be settled this way. Sanctions should be taken against the Club that sees them kicked out of the football league, the game should have been null and void instead of imagining a score. Brentford and Bolton have not played 45 matches, and I feel my OCD is playing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: Wealthy businessmen wanting a hobby and public adulation in their later years will always be with us. Gretna is the best example I've seen. Obscure non-league Scottish village club (not Gretna Green - that's a bigger team) is selected by wealthy businessman Brookes Mileson in 2002 after a rare promotion into the Scottish league to fulfill his footballing dreams. Reaches the SPL in 2007/08, owner falls seriously ill and withdraws his financial support, club liquidated in 2008. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretna_F.C. There are literally thousands of these village clubs and I am sure that there is a new Gretna team as there is already a new Gateshead team - Gateshead Soul. This is why Steve Lansdown keeps talking about financial sustainability. It's not mere rhetoric. Remember Colne Dynamos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: A European Super League is a very interesting point. I just don't imagine the current top flight TV deal is worth anything like it is at the moment if the top 6 were to leave. Could we see a huge amount of money leave the domestic game? We already have a European super league! It’s called The Champions league it been going for a long time! The top Clubs are in a position where they they get shitloads of money from playing in the domestic league and Europe to a position where the drop a shit load of money just to play in Europe! Makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 minute ago, hail gus cesaer said: We already have a European super league! It’s called The Champions league it been going for a long time! The top Clubs are in a position where they they get shitloads of money from playing in the domestic league and Europe to a position where the drop a shit load of money just to play in Europe! Makes no sense No it is not a European Super League but the Champions League as you rightly point out. A European Super League will pitch teams throughout Europe on a week in week out basis which is much different to the Champions League. It is the future and has already been discussed on many many occasions. It will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: They seemed to have made up the rules off the cuff. As said this new ruling sets a dangerous precedence, it just couldn't be applied if to-morrows fixtures, or similar were so dependent on 3 points. If a club fails to fulfill a fixture in these circumstances or similar it cannot be settled this way. Sanctions should be taken against the Club that sees them kicked out of the football league, the game should have been null and void instead of imagining a score. Brentford and Bolton have not played 45 matches, and I feel my OCD is playing up. Far be it from me to defend the EFL but they have just applied the rules that were voted for by the clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, BigTone said: No it is not a European Super League but the Champions League as you rightly point out. A European Super League will pitch teams throughout Europe on a week in week out basis which is much different to the Champions League. It is the future and has already been discussed on many many occasions. It will happen. Is this the same tournament that LJ said we'd be playing in imminently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: Is this the same tournament that LJ said we'd be playing in imminently? I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: Is this the same tournament that LJ said we'd be playing in imminently? He made a joking comment that our aim is to be playing in Europe in 5 years. That was almost 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, BigTone said: No it is not a European Super League but the Champions League as you rightly point out. A European Super League will pitch teams throughout Europe on a week in week out basis which is much different to the Champions League. It is the future and has already been discussed on many many occasions. It will happen. A bit of a misnomer driven by money so an ironic name in itself- how often do Champions of their domestic Leagues actually reach the latter stage? What with the money dominance of the modern game and this, I hope Ajax win it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, BigTone said: No it is not a European Super League but the Champions League as you rightly point out. A European Super League will pitch teams throughout Europe on a week in week out basis which is much different to the Champions League. It is the future and has already been discussed on many many occasions. It will happen. Don’t think it will certainly not in the near future! If you earning 100m a year for your domestic competition and 20m for European competition your not going to drop the domestic competition because it’s the future! Until the day the European competition earns double the domestic vastly outweighs the domestic in terms of competing money it won’t happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: He made a joking comment that our aim is to be playing in Europe in 5 years. That was almost 3 years ago. Yeah I know bud, I was also joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: A bit of a misnomer driven by money so an ironic name in itself- how often do Champions of their domestic Leagues actually reach the latter stage? What with the money dominance of the modern game and this, I hope Ajax win it this year. A super league and the Champions league will be 2 different entities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said: Until the day the European competition earns double the domestic vastly outweighs the domestic in terms of competing money it won’t happen! But it WILL happen and is already under discussion. They wouldn't be having the discussion if the pay day was less than they receive now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BigTone said: 3 minutes ago, BigTone said: But it WILL happen and is already under discussion. They wouldn't be having the discussion if the pay day was less than they receive now. I had a talks with a consultant to be become a woman doesn’t mean it’s happenning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said: Don’t think it will certainly not in the near future! If you earning 100m a year for your domestic competition and 20m for European competition your not going to drop the domestic competition because it’s the future! Until the day the European competition earns double the domestic vastly outweighs the domestic in terms of competing money it won’t happen! And that is exactly the point Tone is making. If you took the top 20 European clubs, and had a season long league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said: 5 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said: Good luck Mrs / Miss or Ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: A bit of a misnomer driven by money so an ironic name in itself- how often do Champions of their domestic Leagues actually reach the latter stage? What with the money dominance of the modern game and this, I hope Ajax win it this year. Ironically, Ajax did not win the league last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: And that is exactly the point Tone is making. If you took the top 20 European clubs, and had a season long league.... I get it but to generate interest their needs to be excitement there’s no excitement if 20 teams play a season no relegation I’m assuming because They won’t allow Real Madrid to get relegated where maybe 4 (at the very max) are going to the title and 16 teams are doing what making up space! The only way I see it working is if you have maybe a group stage followed by an knockout stage to keep things interesting (but we already have that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Remember Colne Dynamos? Was that the team Mark Lawrenson managed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Remember Colne Dynamos? Indeed. They were probably the first real lower league club that tried to buy their way to the top preceding the likes of Boston and Rushden. It didn`t take long to all end in tears though amidst allegations of financial shenanigans and death threats to the owner/manager Graham White. I remember 442 doing a big feature on them back in the early nineties and it seemed they were really going places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: Indeed. They were probably the first real lower league club that tried to buy their way to the top preceding the likes of Boston and Rushden. It didn`t take long to all end in tears though amidst allegations of financial shenanigans and death threats to the owner/manager Graham White. I remember 442 doing a big feature on them back in the early nineties and it seemed they were really going places. I think their owner shut them down when they weren't allowed to be promoted, due to their ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: I think their owner shut them down when they weren't allowed to be promoted, due to their ground? Yeah, he tried to groundshare with Burnley but they weren`t having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 5 hours ago, BigTone said: A super league and the Champions league will be 2 different entities When you say 2 different entities, do you mean running concurrently or do you mean with CL being replaced by Super League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: When you say 2 different entities, do you mean running concurrently or do you mean with CL being replaced by Super League? Replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Looks like administration within 24 hours. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48186060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, chinapig said: Looks like administration within 24 hours. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48186060 Not surprising really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Do we necessarily think administration is the end of this? They’ve been in serious strife for some time, nobody seems to want to buy and they’ve not fulfilled fixtures. This feels more like liquidation to me. I’m not sure when the deadline is for the league to confirm they’re happy Bolton can fulfil fixtures/be admitted (something about a Golden Share), but I don’t see this being resolved soon. Put it this way - I wouldn’t be surprised to see Notts County play league football next season after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Do we necessarily think administration is the end of this? They’ve been in serious strife for some time, nobody seems to want to buy and they’ve not fulfilled fixtures. This feels more like liquidation to me. I’m not sure when the deadline is for the league to confirm they’re happy Bolton can fulfil fixtures/be admitted (something about a Golden Share), but I don’t see this being resolved soon. Put it this way - I wouldn’t be surprised to see Notts County play league football next season after all. I'd almost feel bad for Forest fans if that happened. No love or dislike towards Forest, but for their fans this is their NLBR moment, just just imagine if that had been taken from us. However, I'd be happier seeing the oldest football league side keep their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Do we necessarily think administration is the end of this? They’ve been in serious strife for some time, nobody seems to want to buy and they’ve not fulfilled fixtures. This feels more like liquidation to me. I’m not sure when the deadline is for the league to confirm they’re happy Bolton can fulfil fixtures/be admitted (something about a Golden Share), but I don’t see this being resolved soon. Put it this way - I wouldn’t be surprised to see Notts County play league football next season after all. Good shout....Yeovil would be kicking themselves. needs to be resolved quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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