Red-Robbo Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Huddlestone gave out that little yelp, so important in getting refs to reach for a card. I expect "Lamps" gets his boys to practise it in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 7 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Because that's what we've always called him when he first played and so as to distinguish him from his father. The epithet stuck a la Smudger, The Chief, The Goat, The Wardrobe et al Surely the name 'Lee' distinguishes him from his father 'Gary'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Ha yes robbo the all important scream whilst clutching a body part whilst rolling around is nearly always the magic formula for a red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Banjo Island said: Ha yes robbo the all important scream whilst clutching a body part whilst rolling around is nearly always the magic formula for a red card Can you imagine the late great Sir Gerry demeaning himself like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Well if that's a red card we just as well make football a non contact sport. It's already heading that way I know. If Semenyo was going in to that challenge at full speed with a straight leg, thus avoiding any chance of injury to himself with no regard for his opponent then red every time. Just mistimed for me no intent to harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: Well if that's a red card we just as well make football a non contact sport. It's already heading that way I know. If Semenyo was going in to that challenge at full speed with a straight leg, thus avoiding any chance of injury to himself with no regard for his opponent then red every time. Just mistimed for me no intent to harm. It's not even mistimed. He won the ball and Huddlestone kicked the bottom of Semenyo's boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 I assume we either didn't appeal or its not been successful given Villa have had El Ghazi's rescinded already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 Wait Hourihane's punch has been deemed as not violent conduct and therefore no ban Punching a player in the mid rift is apparently fair game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 sending off? Doesn’t look like it to me judge for yourself - if not why didn’t we appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 LJ's reasoning was: Quote Did you contest Antoine Semenyo's red card in the end from the weekend? No, we didn't contest it. We were just worried. We looked at it to contest it and we took some advice, but you always worry about the frivolous appeal. Because if that goes against you then it costs the young lad another game. Historically, even if it should have been a yellow card, you don't get them, so we decided to protect him for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 How I read LJ’s explanation is that the only way a red card is overturned is if there is no offence at all. In this case there is an argument for a yellow card but appeals don’t change red to yellow so an appeal could therefore be termed a frivolous appeal and incur an extra game ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Johnny Musicworks said: How I read LJ’s explanation is that the only way a red card is overturned is if there is no offence at all. In this case there is an argument for a yellow card but appeals don’t change red to yellow so an appeal could therefore be termed a frivolous appeal and incur an extra game ban. WeeLee should know The Laws and will know whether Semenyo was dismissed for an S1 or S2 offence. An appeal would not seek to demonstrate 'no offence' took place rather the offence didn't fall into the category listed in the official's match report. In which case they've reviewed it and concluded it was either SFP or Violent Conduct ( I'm assuming the former,) and to appeal against such would be frivolous. - much as we all knew would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 29/04/2019 at 21:45, JamesBCFC said: It's not even mistimed. He won the ball and Huddlestone kicked the bottom of Semenyo's boot. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BTRFTG said: WeeLee should know The Laws and will know whether Semenyo was dismissed for an S1 or S2 offence. An appeal would not seek to demonstrate 'no offence' took place rather the offence didn't fall into the category listed in the official's match report. In which case they've reviewed it and concluded it was either SFP or Violent Conduct ( I'm assuming the former,) and to appeal against such would be frivolous. - much as we all knew would happen. Excuse my ignorance, but SFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Excuse my ignorance, but SFP? Serious Foul Play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Excuse my ignorance, but SFP? Serious foul play. Edit - beaten to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BTRFTG said: WeeLee should know The Laws and will know whether Semenyo was dismissed for an S1 or S2 offence. An appeal would not seek to demonstrate 'no offence' took place rather the offence didn't fall into the category listed in the official's match report. In which case they've reviewed it and concluded it was either SFP or Violent Conduct ( I'm assuming the former,) and to appeal against such would be frivolous. - much as we all knew would happen. 7 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Excuse my ignorance, but SFP? Serious foul play I think. Unsure Semenyo is guilty of a straight red card offence here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Serious foul play I think. Unsure Semenyo is guilty of a straight red card offence here though. Thanks all. I don’t think that tackle shows serious foul play though, although I’m not a qualified referee so my opinion is probably slightly rose tinted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, JBFC II said: Excuse my ignorance, but SFP? Serious Foul Play (S1) the alternate to Violent Conduct (S2) and both straight reds - distinction being the latter also occurs when the ball or offender is not in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Point being if there was any doubt it wasn't SFP why not appeal at risk it's four not 3 games missed? The lad is highly unlikely to start at the begining of next season so not taking a chance rather than serving out the ban this year when we might need him would be odd. Hopefully we've simply told him to learn from what looks to have been an impulsive not premeditated mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 7 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Point being if there was any doubt it wasn't SFP why not appeal at risk it's four not 3 games missed? The lad is highly unlikely to start at the begining of next season so not taking a chance rather than serving out the ban this year when we might need him would be odd. Hopefully we've simply told him to learn from what looks to have been an impulsive not premeditated mistake. Maybe LJ has calculated that he might want Semenyo for the play off final to keep SL sweet, especially if he scores the winning goal?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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