Fordy62 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Remember when Cotts put 5 on the bench to make some sort of point to Lansdown? Well, Baker went off injured and LJ chose to replace him with Semenyo - a lad it’s been widely rumoured LJ was forced to bring back by Lansdown rather than splash the cash on a ready made striker in January. Fast forward to this afternoon. Baker off injured (surely he must leave?) and LJ has a big decision to make. Who does he bring on? Kasey Palmer - tried and tested spark and creativity. Eliasson - in good form - best crosser we have. Or compete wild card - Semenyo. Was a “this is your player Steve. Your call. Your fault, we should have strengthened in january” moment? Or not? Probably not. But I do like a conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 You’ve been watching too much zeitgeist I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Obvious change when Baker had to go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 It's not but it definitely works out that way. I don't think LJ is immature enough to do something like that deliberately. Steve can tweet his disappointment again if he likes, but if we had that striker investment in the last year and a half then it's likely we'd have done better. We're so close and it's SLs choice if he wants to gradually increase spending or go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Far from obvious surley we should of gone with experience at such a crucial stage of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Remember when Cotts put 5 on the bench to make some sort of point to Lansdown? Well, Baker went off injured and LJ chose to replace him with Semenyo - a lad it’s been widely rumoured LJ was forced to bring back by Lansdown rather than splash the cash on a ready made striker in January. Fast forward to this afternoon. Baker off injured (surely he must leave?) and LJ has a big decision to make. Who does he bring on? Kasey Palmer - tried and tested spark and creativity. Eliasson - in good form - best crosser we have. Or compete wild card - Semenyo. Was a “this is your player Steve. Your call. Your fault, we should have strengthened in january” moment? Or not? Probably not. But I do like a conspiracy theory. It's possible Fordy and I do like a conspiracy theory too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Remember when Cotts put 5 on the bench to make some sort of point to Lansdown? Well, Baker went off injured and LJ chose to replace him with Semenyo - a lad it’s been widely rumoured LJ was forced to bring back by Lansdown rather than splash the cash on a ready made striker in January. Fast forward to this afternoon. Baker off injured (surely he must leave?) and LJ has a big decision to make. Who does he bring on? Kasey Palmer - tried and tested spark and creativity. Eliasson - in good form - best crosser we have. Or compete wild card - Semenyo. Was a “this is your player Steve. Your call. Your fault, we should have strengthened in january” moment? Or not? Probably not. But I do like a conspiracy theory. It did cross my mind, because the only other reson for picking him ahead of Eliasson was tgat he must have smashed it in training. Eliasson and Palmer should have got 35 minutes at least today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 I wasn’t that impressed with Palmer or Eliasson when they did come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, eardun said: I wasn’t that impressed with Palmer or Eliasson when they did come on. I thought both were really good. Semenyo should not have played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 I thought Semenyo looked decent enough for this standard when he came on given how much game time he's had at this level. The other option was Taylor but over the season how much has he scored.... Eliasson could have come on but with 2 wider 10's Weimann seemed the more logical choice and therefore a striker to come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Ummm. No. When Baker went down, my first thought was “don’t bring on Wright or Kelly” as Derby we’re sitting in so the choice needed to be an attacking one. Palmer wasn’t an option at that stage as he’d take Paterson’s space, and we know LJ prefers Taylor as an impact sub which it was too early for. Choice then was between Semenyo and Eliasson. No problems with the choice made, and before the red card, was looking good. In short, it was a fair call and before the SO had every chance of working. God knows why people think LJ is likely to deliberately balls up a six pointer to make a point to Lansdown, but those people need to get the tinfoil off their head and get out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Perhaps AS has shown more than Palmer and Eliasson defensively in training? An ability to sit in the middle and track? Palmer succeeds in flashes - if we levelled up and then lost to a late Derby chance because of him failing to challenge the opponent for possession (although step forward Fam for that today) ... people would be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, eardun said: I wasn’t that impressed with Palmer or Eliasson when they did come on. Game was dead by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, eardun said: I wasn’t that impressed with Palmer or Eliasson when they did come on. Particularly as Palmer can't be ars*d to track back ( see third non-goal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 It made no sense at all - last week we replaced like for like with Walsh. Either he believed in his formation or not they must have been working on that in training why change so soon? Also we’ve proven over 40 games Weimann is more effective in the centre so why push him to the wing when you have a winger in good form. I didn't understand it then and still dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, eardun said: I wasn’t that impressed with Palmer or Eliasson when they did come on. It was all too late by then. None of their team mates could run by then. 0-2 and the game was up whatever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 I thought that bringing on Semenyo was an odd decision. In such a crucial game, with plenty of time left (so hardly a last throw of the dice), I would have thought if bringing on another striker the more experienced Taylor would have been the obvious choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megansdad Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Baker was concussed so hardly his fault. Derby having lost Tomori may have influenced LJ decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, italian dave said: Obvious change when Baker had to go off. Was 6th on my list of the 7 subs who I thought might come on....O’Leary 7th. Taylot Palmer Eliasson, Kelly Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Was 6th on my list of the 7 subs who I thought might come on....O’Leary 7th. Taylot Palmer Eliasson, Kelly Baker Oh come on you really had Baker coming on for Baker as more likely than Semenyo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: Oh come on you really had Baker coming on for Baker as more likely than Semenyo? Sorry, meant Wright. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, eardun said: I wasn’t that impressed with Palmer or Eliasson when they did come on. We should have used Eliasons pace up front along side Diedhiou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Semenyo was making a difference and had Derby scared until he was wrongly dismissed. The decision was a brave one to bring him on but it was right. He changed the game positively until he was harshly removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, megansdad said: Baker was concussed so hardly his fault. Derby having lost Tomori may have influenced LJ decision. Not convinced. Baker can't wait to get off in most games. One to move on for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: It was all too late by then. None of their team mates could run by then. 0-2 and the game was up whatever happened. It didn’t look as though Palmer could run either! He just didn’t do enough for me. I wouldn’t have taken Paterson off but perhaps he was knackered as he has been injured recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, megansdad said: Baker was concussed so hardly his fault. Derby having lost Tomori may have influenced LJ decision. Baker doesn’t seem to be able to get out of bloke without getting concussed. Bloke has had some shocking luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davefevs Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Harry said: Semenyo was making a difference and had Derby scared until he was wrongly dismissed. The decision was a brave one to bring him on but it was right. He changed the game positively until he was harshly removed. 2 hours ago, JonDolman said: Semenyo changed the game when coming on against Preston. He came on against Wednesday and looked good. LJ even said he was impressed with his performance. So LJ probably thought he would play well again. And I think he did play well before the sending off. Great feint and shot first half that was really travelling that could well have gone in had their defender not put in an amazing block. He had a first time shot saved that was a decent effort on his left foot. He won a couple of tackles, and had some nice touches. He is clearly an exceptional talent for his age. I agreed with him being brought on and thought we improved as a team when he did. Thought he did ok today, in and out. I do see some real talent though (i’m sure we all do), and boy, is he a unit too. He needs a pre-season with the first team, not just fitness, but friendlies too. He needs to get used to his teammates, the style of play. He could save us millions. This experience and brief game time since January will help. I want us to play two up top next season, and I see Antoine being a regular feature in the 18, and to make a contribution from start or bench. If we play one, his opportunities will be much less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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