Lez Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Bamford it's useless. Plus should now receive a ban. Consistency n all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Stuart Atwell doesn’t come out of this game with any credit imv. He was conned throughout by Vile-a players diving all over the place. A weak, weak performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Sorry bu5 actually feel fo4 Leeds. Kodjia gets injured making a late challenge. Not a head injury so why should Leeds put th3 ball out especially when they need a goal They shouldn't, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Not quite sure how Villa cheated against us unless i missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, pongo88 said: I don’t like Leeds but I thought the players were right to play on and score. I think it’s ridiculous that the game has to be stopped every time a player goes down injured . The rules are straightforward. It’s the referee who should decide whether or not the match is stopped because a player is injured. It used to be “play to the whistle” and that’s what Leeds did. I agree, not a head injury and the Ref showed no desire to blow the whistle. It was way up the pitch and plenty of passes before the ball was put in the net. BUT. Only minutes before Villa put out the ball when Leeds player was injured. The precedent was set. Leeds accepted that then and should have out of decency done likewise. As @Olé says, two scummy clubs trying to out do eachother. Dirty cheats the lot of them and I hope Bamford is hung out to dry and booed from start to finish whenever he plays from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Super said: Not quite sure how Villa cheated against us unless i missed something? A certain penalty maybe, where a player went down shall we say far too easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 About time it was made very clear, no kicking the ball out, ref stops the game for a head injury and thats it. Otherwise play on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Never mind a ban, Bamford should get an Oscar for this. https://mobile.twitter.com/seandeanus/status/1122480955929788416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: They shouldn't, simple as that. Well in the spirit of the game they should...that's why Leeds let them score, sort of an unwritten law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 For people who don't have the benefit of watching it, here's the level of shithousing these two shithouses managed in 5 minutes: Kodjia tries to foul Cooper only to fall over himself writhing in agony next to a bemused Cooper Leeds draw 3 Villa players to the touchline with a dummy to put it out for a throw in, only to then put Klich in on goal Klich beats a bemused defender and curls it past the keeper and is immediately surrounded by Villa players Both sets of shithousing players start brawling Kodjia goes off injured having shithoused himself The posh well behaved one Bamford does that peacemaker intervention secretly trying to strangle players trick El Ghazi lightly pushes Bamford away and Bamford suddenly collapses to the floor clutching his face El Ghazi gets sent off Biesla tells his players to let Villa score, but Jansson isn't done shithousing and tries to kick Adomah up in the air when 18 other players are stood motionless watching This was elite shithousing from the two scummiest teams in the division. No surprises whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 If the linesman, A’s he should have done, gives the Leeds scorer offside when he receives the ball none of the rest of the nonsense occurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: A certain penalty maybe, where a player went down shall we say far too easily Crikey that happened loads yesterday but wouldnt call both teams cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Mind you, there is precedent for a ban for Bamford, following Dwight Gayle's 2-game suspension for the 'successful deception of a match official' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47245351. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Well in the spirit of the game they should...that's why Leeds let them score, sort of an unwritten law. Nonsense. It's not in the spirit of the game at all, it's players taking the law into their own hands. The referee is there to make decisions, not the players. The directive from the League is players should NOT kick the ball out.for an opposing player, but leave the decision to the ref. All managers should make their players aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 The reason this is an issue is because leeds feigned to kick it out....putting 3 villa players out of the game. Disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: If the linesman, A’s he should have done, gives the Leeds scorer offside when he receives the ball none of the rest of the nonsense occurs! He was onside by about three yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Well in the spirit of the game they should...that's why Leeds let them score, sort of an unwritten law. If they’re following “the spirit of the game”, players shouldn’t go down feigning injury; goalkeepers, in particular, shouldn't waste time; players should retreat when a free kick has been awarded and so on. In fact, players do so much which is against the “spirit of the game” that’s its hugely hypocritical to expect them to intentionally put the ball out of play when an opponent is “injured”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lez said: The reason this is an issue is because leeds feigned to kick it out....putting 3 villa players out of the game. Disgraceful ... but sort of wonderful. How I laughed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Super said: Crikey that happened loads yesterday but wouldnt call both teams cheats. Going to ground when there has been little to no contact is trying to gain a penalty by deceiving the referee.....i.e. cheating So yes, on the day at that precise moment, villa cheated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedRaw said: Going to ground when there has been little to no contact is trying to gain a penalty by deceiving the referee.....i.e. cheating So yes, on the day at that precise moment, villa cheated Every team are cheats then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: If they’re following “the spirit of the game”, players shouldn’t go down feigning injury; goalkeepers, in particular, shouldn't waste time; players should retreat when a free kick has been awarded and so on. In fact, players do so much which is against the “spirit of the game” that’s its hugely hypocritical to expect them to intentionally put the ball out of play when an opponent is “injured”. That is for the ref to sort out, and the F.A, but as I said there is a unwritten law regarding this sort of incident when a player is injured and the teams take it upon themselves on field without the need for the ref to intervene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Nonsense. It's not in the spirit of the game at all, it's players taking the law into their own hands. The referee is there to make decisions, not the players. The directive from the League is players should NOT kick the ball out.for an opposing player, but leave the decision to the ref. All managers should make their players aware of this. Almost right. The referee is there to apply the laws of the game. As far as I am aware there is no law that requires a team to kick the ball out for an injury to another player. The referee can however decide to stop the game in the event of a potential bad injury, and will invariably do so in the case of a blow to the head. As much as I hate Leeds (with a passion) there was no reason for them to put the ball out of play, unless instructed to by the referee. In boxing a boxer has to defend himself at all times, other than the command of break by the referee. It was for the Villa players to be professional and defend their goal at all times whether a player feigned to kick it out or not. As for the aftermath, everyone involved in the unnecessary melee should have been booked, and Bamford should receive a ban for intentionally trying and succeeding to get a player sent off. The decision to allow Villa to score is Bielsa’s alone. Sporting perhaps, but will he pay the price of not taking the chance of automatic promotion to the final game of the season. Leeds will probably have to win the play-offs now if he wants to keep his job (if he was looking to stay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: That is for the ref to sort out, and the F.A, but as I said there is a unwritten law regarding this sort of incident when a player is injured and the teams take it upon themselves on field without the need for the ref to intervene. But the point is, the players invariably aren’t injured. An unwritten rule isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Leave decisions to the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Almost right. The referee is there to apply the laws of the game. As far as I am aware there is no law that requires a team to kick the ball out for an injury to another player. The referee can however decide to stop the game in the event of a potential bad injury, and will invariably do so in the case of a blow to the head. As much as I hate Leeds (with a passion) there was no reason for them to put the ball out of play, unless instructed to by the referee. In what way was I 'almost right'? You seem to be agreeing entirely with my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 The issue here isn't that Leeds played on. The issue is they made Villa believe they were putting the ball out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Far too much play acting and feigning injury. I cannot think of another sport where those playing, pretend to be badly hurt, to gain an advantage. In most other sports to react in such a way would be a sign of weakness. Referees need to stop being taken in by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: In what way was I 'almost right'? You seem to be agreeing entirely with my post. Semantics really but I thought it more accurate to say he applies the laws of the game, rather than just see him in the role of a decision maker. In applying the laws he, and he alone, should be the sole arbiter. In decision making per se he ranks behind the players who make more decisions during a game - whether to pass, shoot etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Don’t you just love the Championship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Semantics really but I thought it more accurate to say he applies the laws of the game, rather than just see him in the role of a decision maker. In applying the laws he, and he alone, should be the sole arbiter. In decision making per se he ranks behind the players who make more decisions during a game - whether to pass, shoot etc. Fair enough RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: Far too much play acting and feigning injury. I cannot think of another sport where those playing, pretend to be badly hurt, to gain an advantage. In most other sports to react in such a way would be a sign of weakness. Referees need to stop being taken in by it. It is impossible for referees not to be sometimes taken in. It is for the clubs, managers and players to cease the practice, and for the football authorities to punish hard those who are guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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