WhistleHappy Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Givashite Town can win 'em as far as I'm concerned now... that being said though, ….good luck to whichever team replaces Cardiff in the 'top flight' of English football ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Let's face it, the only reason we have any ill feeling towards Derby is because of the media love in with FL and the questionable decisions that have gone their way in the run in. As a club and a fanbase, they really are quite vanilla and harmless. If they go up, fair play. Ditto West Brom, they are by far the most likeable of the west.midlands clubs. As for the two massive superclubs, they can both fall flat on their arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel James Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gambler Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Get rid of the “biggest” team - Villa “Smallest” team to come up - Doncaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 WBA. Others are bloody annoying and need some character building moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 10 hours ago, JBFC II said: Is it a serious achievement? They've been in the top 6 for 3 out of the last 6 seasons so they have history there. He’s had plenty of resources available, more than many clubs. And add to that they’ve been allowed to take on some of the premier leagues best youngsters. Yes he’s done a decent job but a serious achievement is pushing it imo If LJ had been in charge of that derby side they’d be in the play offs as well I don’t doubt I think getting a team into the championship play offs is a serious achievement for any manager. It’s such a competitive division as loads have pointed out on here throughout this campaign and others. You’ll never know if LJ would have taken that Derby team into the play offs or not. Do you think the Rams are a lot better than us then? You say they have taken on some of the premier league’s best youngsters - well we’ve also taken on some - Chelsea’s Tammy Abraham, Jay Dasilva, Tomas Kalas and Kasey Palmer spring to mind ... You obviously think it ain’t such a big deal for a football manager to finish in the top six in arguably the fifth best division in the world - I think it’s a serious achievement - especially for a rookie like Frank Lampard - there is nothing wrong with recognising the achievements of others now the dust has settled on our season ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I think getting a team into the championship play offs is a serious achievement for any manager. It’s such a competitive division as loads have pointed out on here throughout this campaign and others. You’ll never know if LJ would have taken that Derby team into the play offs or not. Do you think the Rams are a lot better than us then? You say they have taken on some of the premier league’s best youngsters - well we’ve also taken on some - Chelsea’s Tammy Abraham, Jay Dasilva, Tomas Kalas and Kasey Palmer spring to mind ... You obviously think it ain’t such a big deal for a football manager to finish in the top six in arguably the fifth best division in the world - I think it’s a serious achievement - especially for a rookie like Frank Lampard - there is nothing wrong with recognising the achievements of others now the dust has settled on our season ... It is an achievement for any manager, but a serious achievement is pushing it. As I said they’ve finished in the play offs for three of the last 6 seasons, it’s hardly as though they have come from nowhere to be one of the top sides in the league. Had he taken the likes of Preston/Millwall/Brentford to the play offs then it would have been a serious achievement, but Derby are a big club who have history in the top 6. They’ve finished on less points than they did last season, so realistically has he done a superb job? I think Derby’s squad is much better than ours on paper, they are full of internationals and international age group players. They’ve got plenty of premier league experience and they’ve spent a fair bit to get to where they are currently. At the start of the season I reckon most people would have expected us to finish below them. Yes we’ve brought in some loanees from the premier league. Tammy was relatively unknown when we got him, Dasilva was untested at championship level, Kalas is hardly a youngster and we did very well to get him and Palmer isn’t one of Chelsea’s main prospects, unlike mason mount for instance. Would Wilson/ Tomori/ Mount have gone to Derby if Lampard hadn’t been there? I’m not so sure, his history has certainly helped him with them. I never said it isn’t a big deal, but I’d argue that for some clubs (Derby, Villa, West Brom, Middlesbrough) play offs would have been seen as a minimum achievement this season, and so I wouldn’t class it as a serious achievement for Lampard to get there. If he takes them up, then yes it’s a serious achievement, but currently it isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Wanderingred said: Let's face it, the only reason we have any ill feeling towards Derby is because of the media love in with FL and the questionable decisions that have gone their way in the run in. As a club and a fanbase, they really are quite vanilla and harmless. If they go up, fair play. Ditto West Brom, they are by far the most likeable of the west.midlands clubs. As for the two massive superclubs, they can both fall flat on their arses. For accuracy, I and others also have antipathy towards Derby as they appear to be financially cheating to the tune of about £40m...Google "Mel Morris Pride Park deal". They're quite possibly under a transfer embargo so- hell I'd rather Leeds won playoffs than Aston Villa or Derby because of their financial cheating. However until that point? Personally- found them alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth red Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Leeds for no other reason than they finished 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 West Brom is surely the correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 05/05/2019 at 17:15, kevinmabbuttshair said: ABL Any one but Leeds This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Not keen on any of them ! Most on here seem to want W.B.A. The way they treated Darren Moore, was disgraceful, I.M.O. So probably Leeds, just to get them out the way, and ensure we don't have to lose at least 4 points to them next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 WBA Portsmouth . (Good Away day) Mansfield . Because they gave us such a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 06/05/2019 at 17:13, Show Me The Money! said: Leeds for no other reason than they finished 3rd Like city you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 05/05/2019 at 16:40, magunn said: Given that our participation is now not happening, who would we like to win the playoffs. In reality for me it’s anyone but Villa, but if I had to choose it would be Derby for no other reason than it could of been us. , WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 I think it’s correct that if WBA go up their parachute moneys owed get shared out. Appreciate it’s across the whole division; but a little windfall and a little more of a boost to ffp compliance/ headroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 29AR said: I think it’s correct that if WBA go up their parachute moneys owed get shared out. Appreciate it’s across the whole division; but a little windfall and a little more of a boost to ffp compliance/ headroom. Nope!!! Gets shared out amongst the Prem teams....it’s called looking after your own! Shocking, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Midred said: Like city you mean? Not quite sure what you mean. If you mean would I still want Leeds to win the playoffs if We had finished 6th then of course no. But if we aren’t in the playoffs then I generally think whoever has finished third should go up....... ....unless it’s Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 WBA please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Show Me The Money! said: Not quite sure what you mean. If you mean would I still want Leeds to win the playoffs if We had finished 6th then of course no. But if we aren’t in the playoffs then I generally think whoever has finished third should go up....... ....unless it’s Cardiff We were third in 2008 weren't we after dropping out of the top two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Midred said: We were third in 2008 weren't we after dropping out of the top two? We were 4th, hull were 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, JBFC II said: We were 4th, hull were 3rd Apologies, my memory's worse than I thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTIDhc Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 I think we were unlucky to not get the play offs. But with Bolton's situation I feel things could be a lot worse for our club and i feel privileged to have an owner like Lansdown. For me WBA have to win the play offs to get them out of this league as they are by far the most ambitious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAHGS. Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 On 05/05/2019 at 17:58, BS3_RED said: Villa cos of the Kodjia bonuses. Plus I think they will be the biggest threat if they stay down. Same here. For me it's about who I'd rather not be competing with next season. And, whilst FFP could have an impact on them, I think they're still the strongest placed for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Midred said: We were third in 2008 weren't we after dropping out of the top two? I think we were fourth and Palace fifth. I've a feeling Hull may have been third but it could have been the other team. Can't remember who they were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Leeds please. Not West Brom because it would justify their ridiculous sacking of Darren Moore. Not Aston Villa because then they'll never get held to account for their crazy level of expenditure. Not Frank Lampard's Derby because they reacted like they'd won the Champions League after their win at Ashton Gate. So Leeds. Lesser of four evils. They might have an incredible level of entitlement, but at least they've spent within their means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 8, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 ABV Anyone But Villa I'm surrounded by Villa fans who have been chirping away all season, they really need to STFU ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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