WhistleHappy Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 All in all an eighth place finish, after an exciting bit of a roller coaster of a season is a great achievement and one that most of us could only dream of a while back.. So enjoy your summer break everyone, I'm sure there will be plenty of debate on here before the new season begins, transfers in / out whatever, these transfer windows can provide some exciting times themselves... and I'm sure they will. So now for the fairytale ending, goodnight everyone, sleep tight, and let's all..... Live Happily Ever After …. C O Y R 's ❤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 It was a fairy tale, but it ended Grimm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Seems to be going to SL's plan. Improved each of the last few years, do so again next year... I believe that the year that drops out for FFP is the worst of the current three (I'm sure someone can confirm or call me an ejit), giving a bit more scope to spend this summer. Given we just missed out this year, and weren't too bad last year we should be seen more favourably by players and agents, and compete for signings with others at the top of the championship (jug eared losers aside). If the funds are spent as we would like rather than wasting money on players who don't even get to warm the bench, next year could be the year we really have a go at it. Looking forward to this years summer transfer window, please Lee, don't disappoint me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Lucan said: At the start of the season did you really see us in 8th battling for a place in the play offs on the final day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Just now, JBFC II said: At the start of the season did you really see us in 8th battling for a place in the play offs on the final day? Personally, I said 6th-16th (ok, it’s a wide set of positions)....we’d get off to a slow start, and would be a bit of a slow burner if the players gelled. They did, we just fell short. We added quality that we’ve not had before....Webster initially, then Kalas. They have made a huge difference. With those two at CB, I question the need to play such a midfielder as Pack in the role he did (the DM), especially at home. That’s where we can improve next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 It’s hardly a fairytale . Assume that was a joke. An improvement and chance to be positive about the future is what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 I said 8th to 14th so should be pleased. Yes I am, but also very disappointed that given we were in top six for quite some time, our dismal home form has been the cause of our failure to break my forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Personally, I said 6th-16th (ok, it’s a wide set of positions)....we’d get off to a slow start, and would be a bit of a slow burner if the players gelled. They did, we just fell short. We added quality that we’ve not had before....Webster initially, then Kalas. They have made a huge difference. With those two at CB, I question the need to play such a midfielder as Pack in the role he did (the DM), especially at home. That’s where we can improve next season. Yep....if LJ gets his way and brings in 6 or 7 new signings we could well see a very different midfield and strike force next season. Now is the time to seriously strengthen in readiness for the next campaign. SL understands that - one of the criticisms he aimed at GJ was that he never strengthened after getting so close all those years ago. I can’t see him turning down reasonable funding requests particularly after such a decent season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 I know it's been said already, but I'll say it again. I'd have taken 8th given we lost Bobby, Flint and Joe over the summer. I really did think we were going to be relegation candidates this season so I'm very pleased to be proved wrong. So in comparison to my expectation, well done LJ and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Lucan said: I thought it was possible yes. Hardly a fairytale season. Delusional people on this forum I’m surprised. When you look at what we lost in the summer. Plus the recruitment (yes we knew Kalas and Weimann were proven) wasn’t looking like it was going to fill the gaps of what we’d lost, add into that how poor the second half to last season was and it didn’t look too rosy last August on here for many. I certainly didn’t expect us to trump last seasons efforts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Yep....if LJ gets his way and brings in 6 or 7 new signings we could well see a very different midfield and strike force next season. Now is the time to seriously strengthen in readiness for the next campaign. SL understands that - one of the criticisms he aimed at GJ was that he never strengthened after getting so close all those years ago. I can’t see him turning down reasonable funding requests particularly after such a decent season. You have not got the first idea what lansdown understands or wants stop pretending you know the bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: You have not got the first idea what lansdown understands or wants stop pretending you know the bloke OK Jon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 One's man's realistic, sustainable year by year improvement is another's failure to strengthen 'coz he has loads of cash. more of the same please..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: You have not got the first idea what lansdown understands or wants stop pretending you know the bloke I’ve met SL many times but I don’t know him. It’s not as if we hold deep and meaningful conversations. It was either at a meeting or in conversation that he said that GJ didn’t strengthen after the pray off final and that had cost us the following season. From that I deduce that SL understands how important strengthening the squad is particularly after a very decent season and will be willing to make the necessary funds available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Yep....if LJ gets his way and brings in 6 or 7 new signings we could well see a very different midfield and strike force next season. Now is the time to seriously strengthen in readiness for the next campaign. SL understands that - one of the criticisms he aimed at GJ was that he never strengthened after getting so close all those years ago. I can’t see him turning down reasonable funding requests particularly after such a decent season. Fair play to you @Robbored In December/January I said no way were we top 8, you said we were... you were right even if i was only one place out from being right City can and should feel proud of the season. Cheers, Robbored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 8th is good in that it's a slight progression on last season and (most importantly) wasn't the backwards step that many of us thought it could be when we lost our 3 best players in the summer. It's definitely not a massive achievement or anything though. We've been flirting around the play off places for 3 seasons now. Anything other than top 6 next year will be seen as a let down (although I think another top 10 finish wouldn't be terrible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Planet Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Loco Rojo said: I know it's been said already, but I'll say it again. I'd have taken 8th given we lost Bobby, Flint and Joe over the summer. I really did think we were going to be relegation candidates this season so I'm very pleased to be proved wrong. So in comparison to my expectation, well done LJ and the team. My view exactly. What we have seen under LJ is steady progress and I am very happy with a top ten finish this season. I am optimistic that LJ will stay with us and re-build over the summer and my gut feeling is that next season will be our promotion season. Yes, mistakes have been made but I have faith in the current management team and I trust them to set us up well for the start of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Planet Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I’ve met SL many times but I don’t know him. It’s not as if we hold deep and meaningful conversations. It was either at a meeting or in conversation that he said that GJ didn’t strengthen after the pray off final and that had cost us the following season. From that I deduce that SL understands how important strengthening the squad is particularly after a very decent season and will be willing to make the necessary funds available. I have also met SL. Very decent bloke and definitely "one of our own". Did you hear the Hull fans today chanting abuse at their current owners ? We are very fortunate to have SL. Bristol born. Genuine fan and hugely wealthy - it does not get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, JBFC II said: At the start of the season did you really see us in 8th battling for a place in the play offs on the final day? There is a clear tendency for people to forget that in the second half of last season we were in an auto promotion position. This is the second season running that we tailed away. I know it doesn't meet the current agenda of the forum, where it seems like we are meant to tow the line that we are over achieving. Personally I think we really lack experience in the coach and the coaching staff, we got ourselves into a position where a good to average last half a dozen games would see us clearly in the play offs, but don’t seem to have the know how, nouse and experience to finish off the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I’ve met SL many times but I don’t know him. It’s not as if we hold deep and meaningful conversations. It was either at a meeting or in conversation that he said that GJ didn’t strengthen after the pray off final and that had cost us the following season. From that I deduce that SL understands how important strengthening the squad is particularly after a very decent season and will be willing to make the necessary funds available. I can remember an interview with SL where he said something along the lines of "due to the playoffs and heightened profile of the club players were available that in hindsight we probably weren't ready for" (it might have been a fans meeting a while ago - maybe when we played forest). Unsurprisingly I took this to be the exact opposite of what you describe. Was your understanding that the players we did sign weren't good enough or that we just didn't sign enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted May 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Gotta spell it out for some people.. (thought I had) The 'fairytale ending' was just that, the … 'LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER' COYR's line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pezo said: Was your understanding that the players we did sign weren't good enough or that we just didn't sign enough? Both. GJ was too loyal to the players that had reached the pray off final rather than strengthening to go again the following season. As we know it all went tits up...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Both. GJ was too loyal to the players that had reached the pray off final rather than strengthening to go again the following season. As we know it all went tits up...... When you say tits up - I thought 10th in our second season in this league was successful, certainly better than we have managed this time around when we finished 18th in our first season and 17th in our second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Portland Bill said: There is a clear tendency for people to forget that in the second half of last season we were in an auto promotion position. This is the second season running that we tailed away. I know it doesn't meet the current agenda of the forum, where it seems like we are meant to tow the line that we are over achieving. Personally I think we really lack experience in the coach and the coaching staff, we got ourselves into a position where a good to average last half a dozen games would see us clearly in the play offs, but don’t seem to have the know how, nouse and experience to finish off the job. Maybe next season they will have learned from their ‘ mistakes ‘. I know LJ changed our style to avoid the burn out that we had last year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Undoubtedly a great finishing position and another season of improvement. I should be ecstatic but once again i’m left thinking it should/could have been so much better. A few bad runs, terrible home form which the coaching team couldn’t address, a lack of creativity and a perceived lack of investment by the board when once again we were in a position to consolidate top 6. It was still a great season so not moaning but from the position we found ourselves in close to the end of the season and the poor form Derby and Boro were in we really did let ourselves down and realistically there’s lots to work on from all involved if we really want to be contenders next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Lucan said: Delusional people on this forum You know what a delusion is? its a false belief not shared by others of the same race or religion and that cannot be altered by rational argument. Maybe it’s you who are delusional.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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