Tinmans Love Child Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, hodge said: Also Sky Sports News making a thing about Nuno now being the only BAME manager in the prem Quite right to highlight this issue, the number of BAME players should equate to the same number of BAME managers, but it clearly doesn’t, something’s blocking their path to management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Quite right to highlight this issue, the number of BAME players should equate to the same number of BAME managers, but it clearly doesn’t, something’s blocking their path to management I'm not saying there isn't a problem or anything, it was just how SSN presented it, it didn't come across that well. It felt like blame being put on Brighton for the decision to get rid of a BAME manager rather than just getting rid of a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, RedDave said: Haha. Disgusting is it @Red7 ? What would you have done? Just kept him playing defensive dire football and finishing near the bottom? Their board, and seemingly fans, want more and to see if they can push on. They’ve decided that Hughton has taken them as far as he can. Hardly ‘disgusting’ to want to improve! I guess they’ll bring in Tony Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Graham Potter is favourite. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/13/brighton-sack-chris-hughton-as-manager-after-poor-run-of-form-in-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Job for Lee Johnson..... To good an offer for him to turn down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 6 hours ago, man in the middle said: Would anyone have Hughton as BCFC manager over Johnson? NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, hodge said: I'm not saying there isn't a problem or anything, it was just how SSN presented it, it didn't come across that well. It felt like blame being put on Brighton for the decision to get rid of a BAME manager rather than just getting rid of a manager. John Barnes was interviewed on SSN and played the race card again................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, RedDave said: Haha. Disgusting is it @Red7 ? Yes, in my opinion. Did pretty well, given the attacking options he had. I'd have kept him on. I expect the Brighton fans are similarly split in their opinions. The few I've talked to would rather be in the prem. and struggle for a couple of years than back in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Red7 said: Yes, in my opinion. Did pretty well, given the attacking options he had. I'd have kept him on. I expect the Brighton fans are similarly split in their opinions. The few I've talked to would rather be in the prem. and struggle for a couple of years than back in the Championship. As said earlier, the strikers he's signed in the prem have largely been a failure, that's his fault so you can't say given the attacking options he had. Also the poll on the main Brighton forum is still at 75% being in favour of the club being right to sack him, so doesn't seem that split, many said they voted the club were right with a heavy heart etc but the club still did the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Robbored said: John Barnes was interviewed on SSN and played the race card again................ He, unlike you, has a decent awareness of what black players and managers have to go through. Stick to talking about stuff you have a brief comprehension of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: He, unlike you, has a decent awareness of what black players and managers have to go through. Stick to talking about stuff you have a brief comprehension of. Nah.......he like Sol Campbell have huge chips on their shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 I'd have him in a heartbeat. Proven championship record and well respected by players as he played at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, harvey54 said: I'd have him in a heartbeat. Proven championship record and well respected by players as he played at the highest level. Is there a vacancy at AG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, Robbored said: Nah.......he like Sol Campbell have huge chips on their shoulders. Oh you daft old racist. I don’t know if either of them have chips on their shoulders but I wouldn’t blame them for feeling discriminated against when they have suffered a hell of a lot of abuse at the hands of fans like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: He, unlike you, has a decent awareness of what black players and managers have to go through. Stick to talking about stuff you have a brief comprehension of. ffs give it a rest.... 1 minute ago, EmissionImpossible said: Oh you daft old racist. I don’t know if either of them have chips on their shoulders but I wouldn’t blame them for feeling discriminated against when they have suffered a hell of a lot of abuse at the hands of fans like you. how have they been discriminated against being appointed in top jobs or playing for their respective countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Red7 said: Yes, in my opinion. Did pretty well, given the attacking options he had. I'd have kept him on. I expect the Brighton fans are similarly split in their opinions. The few I've talked to would rather be in the prem. and struggle for a couple of years than back in the Championship. He bought the attacking options. They were dire. Chose to play safe rather than attack. I think Brighton fans are pleased they stayed up but looked at Norwich, Sheffield United, and thought "they're better than us". I tipped them to go down. They nearly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: Oh you daft old racist. I don’t know if either of them have chips on their shoulders but I wouldn’t blame them for feeling discriminated against when they have suffered a hell of a lot of abuse at the hands of fans like you. According to Barnes and Campbell any black manager that loses his job is down to the fact they’re black........I call that having a chip on their shoulders. If anybody is being racist it’s those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, archie andrews said: ffs give it a rest.... how have they been discriminated against being appointed in top jobs or playing for their respective countries In those ways they haven’t been discriminated against, they have just achieved what their talent deserved. If you don’t think they have been discriminated against in life, then you have the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, hodge said: As said earlier, the strikers he's signed in the prem have largely been a failure, that's his fault so you can't say given the attacking options he had. Also the poll on the main Brighton forum is still at 75% being in favour of the club being right to sack him, so doesn't seem that split, many said they voted the club were right with a heavy heart etc but the club still did the right thing. Yes and no IMO. Before Christmas or until early, mid Jan they were reasonably positive or so it looked from the outside- things look to have fallen off a cliff. His tactics in much of 2019 arguably played a part in attacking players not doing so well. That said if it's true what Kieran Maguire said on Twitter, Brighton algorithm ruling out David Brooks was less than clever...scouts recommended him. They also had Pascal Gross injured for decent periods I believe- an important part of the attacking side of their game. Would also add they I believe scored 7 less goals in the 2nd half of season to the first. Definitely declined badly. 8 points less too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: In those ways they haven’t been discriminated against, they have just achieved what their talent deserved. If you don’t think they have been discriminated against in life, then you have the issue. what proof you got they've been discriminated in life then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, SecretSam said: He bought the attacking options. They were dire. Chose to play safe rather than attack. I think Brighton fans are pleased they stayed up but looked at Norwich, Sheffield United, and thought "they're better than us". I tipped them to go down. They nearly did. Is coming out now that he had no say in any of the transfers, were all made by higher ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, petehinton said: Is coming out now that he had no say in any of the transfers, were all made by higher ups If so, then his defensive approach makes sense. Did he really have no say in it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, archie andrews said: what proof you got they've been discriminated in life then? Safe to say all black people have been discriminated against at one point or another. Could be police stopping them. Could be job interviews. Dads of daughters they’ve dated. Many many different reasons I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: In those ways they haven’t been discriminated against, they have just achieved what their talent deserved. If you don’t think they have been discriminated against in life, then you have the issue. Managers get sacked usually through poor results, as was the case with Houghton. It’s got bugger all to do with the colour of your skin but Barnes/Campbell always play the race card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: According to Barnes and Campbell any black manager that loses his job is down to the fact they’re black........I call that having a chip on their shoulders. If anybody is being racist it’s those two. How are they being racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, EmissionImpossible said: How are they being racist? Think about it....................Nobody bats an eyelid when any manager gets the sack but these two bring race into into when the dismissed manager is non white, particularly if they’re black and by doing so bring race/colour into it - if that’s not racism then when what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Quite right to highlight this issue, the number of BAME players should equate to the same number of BAME managers, but it clearly doesn’t, something’s blocking their path to management How many BAME coaches in the game at any level ? Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Managers get sacked usually through poor results, as was the case with Houghton. It’s got bugger all to do with the colour of your skin but Barnes/Campbell always play the race card. I’m not saying he was sacked because of the colour of his skin but there is a severe lack of black managers and sure Paul Ince or whoever may be just terrible managers but the lack of black managers isn’t due to trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Think about it....................Nobody bats an eyelid when any manager gets the sack but these two bring race into into when the dismissed manager is non white, particularly if they’re black and by doing so bring race/colour into it - if that’s not racism then when what it is? They bring race into it because it is sad to see such a small representation of black managers not because they believe they were sacked for being black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, petehinton said: Is coming out now that he had no say in any of the transfers, were all made by higher ups Obvious, strange that people are using it as a stick to beat him. That Jahanbaksh prime example, cost £17m their biggest ever and cant do anything. Looks tidy enough as do most Champ players, but cant score or effect the game at all. Dont see how that was Hughton's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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