WAHGS. Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 I read about this in the coaches voice thread I just saw the article this morning. People were discussing the in squad bickering Johnson refers to, does anyone have any sort of knowledge as to what actually went on? We all heard rumours but I've never heard anything concrete from someone, as it happens my son's mate who's part of the academy setup said from speakin to first teamers he's generally quite respected in the club. Still blows my mind how the signing went so wrong, it looked absolutely perfect on paper. I've tried to incorporate the link in here but I'm not the most computer savvy at the best of times and I'm typing this on a computer I've never used before today so if someone could link the thread with the article it'd be much appreciated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 I dont know the ins and outs of why Tomlin left here but i think its more than a coincidence that every single move Tomlin has had has ended up pear shaped and not working out. Clearly talented but i would suspect an over inflated ego would be the problem.. Didn’t Johnson have an issue with him travelling back up to Leicester every day as he didnt want to live in Bristol? We were paying him handsomely at from what ive been told 600k plus a year and the guy didnt want to commit to relocating which is obviously the sort of commitment the football club was after so you can understand it not sitting too well with the powers that be.. I think its that sort of maverick ‘ill do as i please’ attitude that i think is Mr Tomlins issue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAHGS. Posted May 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 I hope it doesn't put us off signing this type of player in future though. There are maverick players that don't have stinking attitudes, JET was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Worth adding that many fans were disgruntled at there being no pies left at the usual catering outlets around the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 The Lee Tomlin approach to signing for a new club is similar to mine with new potential girlfriends. Get myself in good shape show a few good performances get with said girl, or club in this case gain a solid 2-3 stone performances and motivation starts slipping get disinterested, make it seemingly obvious create a bad atmosphere leave repeat step 1 He just isn't consistent enough or professional enough as a player. He will lose weight and sign for teams and then gain weight. Also if rumours are to be believed he commutes daily from Leicester, which when you're playing for Cardiff is actually mind blowing. Playing for the Posh probably means his day is 2 hours minimum easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Someone intimated to a friend the day he missed the penalty v Burton that he did so deliberately- trying to get LJ the sack. Just one view, but an interesting take...my friend of course laughed it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Tomlin went pie shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Someone intimated to a friend the day he missed the penalty v Burton that he did so deliberately- trying to get LJ the sack. Just one view, but an interesting take...my friend of course laughed it off. It definitely didn’t seem like a natural miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: It definitely didn’t seem like a natural miss Didn't think so either, at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshPrinceofBristol Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Someone intimated to a friend the day he missed the penalty v Burton that he did so deliberately- trying to get LJ the sack. Just one view, but an interesting take...my friend of course laughed it off. I wouldn't be surprised. I've never seen a penalty clear the bar by so much, and it looked to me like that's what he was trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, WAHGS. said: I read about this in the coaches voice thread I just saw the article this morning. People were discussing the in squad bickering Johnson refers to, does anyone have any sort of knowledge as to what actually went on? We all heard rumours but I've never heard anything concrete from someone, as it happens my son's mate who's part of the academy setup said from speakin to first teamers he's generally quite respected in the club. Still blows my mind how the signing went so wrong, it looked absolutely perfect on paper. I've tried to incorporate the link in here but I'm not the most computer savvy at the best of times and I'm typing this on a computer I've never used before today so if someone could link the thread with the article it'd be much appreciated? Do you have any firm evidence that LT was a disruptive influence? It seems to me that you and some other posters are engaging in wild speculation about LT............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAHGS. Posted May 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Do you have any firm evidence that LT was a disruptive influence? It seems to me that you and some other posters are engaging in wild speculation about LT............... No I don't you dimwit hence why I made this thread to find out if people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Do you have any firm evidence that LT was a disruptive influence? It seems to me that you and some other posters are engaging in wild speculation about LT............... It won't be on the official site if that's what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Do you have any firm evidence that LT was a disruptive influence? It seems to me that you and some other posters are engaging in wild speculation about LT............... It’s fair to call it speculation but I don’t think it’s ‘wild’ to assume there may have been issues, considering Tomlin’s history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Do you have any firm evidence that LT was a disruptive influence? It seems to me that you and some other posters are engaging in wild speculation about LT............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: It definitely didn’t seem like a natural miss I’ve met a few of those in my time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: Do you have any firm evidence that LT was a disruptive influence? It seems to me that you and some other posters are engaging in wild speculation about LT............... Wild speculation is what we do best , don’t take that away from us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 I don't know what went wrong off the pitch, but on the pitch I don't think it could ever work long term. The modern game doesn't allow for luxury players anymore, it has been stretched to such fine margins that anyone not giving 100% will ultimately be your downfall. You just don't see teams winning consistently anymore with players like Ozil, Balotelli, Cassano, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Tomlin went pie shaped. Stevie Ray Tomlin....should have stuck with the blues...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, WAHGS. said: No I don't you dimwit hence why I made this thread to find out if people do. Without hard evidence then you’re slandering LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, WAHGS. said: I hope it doesn't put us off signing this type of player in future though. There are maverick players that don't have stinking attitudes, JET was one. The "Maverick's" are great to watch when on top form. Unfortunately, most are not good at consistency and then don't put a shift in at places like Barnsley and plenty of others on cold, wet evenings in November. Only when they work as hard as the lesser talented members of the squad, eg. De Bruyne, Firmino, are they worth a place in the team. Every club at any level, needs the eleven on the pitch to do their best, in order to be successful. One weak link is enough for opponents to capitalize on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAHGS. Posted May 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Speaking of Mavericks, I'd like Saiz if Leeds go up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, WAHGS. said: I hope it doesn't put us off signing this type of player in future though. There are maverick players that don't have stinking attitudes, JET was one. Jet wasted his talent.... not interested in putting in the hard work to improve, flogging Herbalife was the beginning of the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Robbored said: Without hard evidence then you’re slandering LT. Just imagine the sort of person who would slander the manager of Bristol City on a football forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 I think when LJ referred to disruptive elements in the dressing room having left, it was obvious about whom the remark was aimed. His rapid exits from numerous other clubs tell the same tale. I think he's just one of those people who are naturally bolshy and don't react well to management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, WAHGS. said: I hope it doesn't put us off signing this type of player in future though. There are maverick players that don't have stinking attitudes, JET was one. LT impressed whilst on loan and LJ was under pressure from the fans to try and sign him - which he did. Not long after it began to go tits up thru LTs inconsistently and he eventually moved on to Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, !james said: Just imagine the sort of person who would slander the manager of Bristol City on a football forum... My criticism was based on hard facts. That doesn’t qualify as slander...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: My criticism was based on hard facts. That doesn’t qualify as slander...... Who do you think you are, Rafa Benitez? You called Gary Johnson a Conference manager when he was manager of a League One club, having previously got a team promoted from both the Conference and the fourth tier and taken charge of an international side. Your criticism, Alan, wasn't based on facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Journalist said: Who do you think you are, Rafa Benitez? You called Gary Johnson a Conference manager when he was manager of a League One club, having previously got a team promoted from both the Conference and the fourth tier and taken charge of an international side. Your criticism, Alan, wasn't based on facts. Did GJ metaphorically "kick your arse" in his office over your repeated "Conference Manager" insults @Robbored or has the whole of OTIB been slandering you for years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 I know that when he moved to Cardiff he actually lived there as well and pretty much every evening would be a takeaway, that's from someone very close to him. I suspect fitness was major issue with him and Johnson. Didn't he tell his other team mates that they were all shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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