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How much can we spend & will we spend it well?

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From TransferMarkt so maybe not 100% accurate, but pretty close.

Kelly (13-17m?), Reid £10.22m, Flint £7.20m, Bryan £6.03m, Magnússon £2.52m, Djuric £585k = Roughly 40-44m

Additionally, at the end of 16/17 we sold Tomlin for 3m & at the end of 15/16 we sold Kodjia for 11m = Roughly 54-58m

Our incomings of note in that period have been Tomlin 3m, Fammy 5m, Magnuson 1.9m, Djuric 1.6m, Engvall 1.4m, Taylor Moore 1.5m, O'Dowda 1m, Baker 3.9m, Eliasson 1.8m, Walsh 1m, Webster 3.6m, Wiemann 2m, Eisa 1.5m, Hunt 1.5m & Watkins 1m = 31m

So in the past 3 years we've made roughly 20m profit on players and are the only club that has consistently improved over the last 5 years.

The question now is, how "bold" will we be? how "bold" can we be? and will we make the right signings?

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2 minutes ago, INCRED said:

Got to be looking at a budget of £25m for purchases but wages will need to be managed within FFP

We won’t spend that

15m maybe

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If we spend the £10m we all want on JDS and Kalas, what else do we need? Quality poacher? Another CM or trust Walsh? Improve RB or stick with Hunt / Vyner? We’ve got depth in the squad. I’d like to see us go big on 4 of the above 5 positions. Quality not quantity 

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I'm both excited and concerned. With Kelly going for £13m and a decent season behind us I don't see why we can't invest but the real trouble is always going to be that striker role. We really need to find a clinical, talented striker partner Fammy upfront.
Another concern is now Kelly is gone and DaSilva and Kalas have returned we have no left back at the level we need and a hell of a quality CB to replace. If we cannot sign both Kalas and DaSilva we have 3 key players we need to sign who all need to hit the ground running.

I'll be impressed if our "bold moves" are as bold as many would like them to be. I have a feeling that we're going to be very much on a constant rebuild the way things are going right now.

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6 minutes ago, INCRED said:

Just being bold!

And why not, stranger things have happened I guess

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Is there any scope to bring Da Silva and/or Kalas in on loan for another year? That would forego the need to shell out on transfer fees for these players and concentrate on our new striker and his wage demands 😀

My limited (but improving) understanding of FFP rules and what they mean for City is that we’ll be in a much improved position next summer - then SL can really open his Premier League war chest and buy the necessary outright.

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Do we need to factor in costs of loans for FFP? I can imagine we paid over a million just to loan Kalas last season. 

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2 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Do we need to factor in costs of loans for FFP? I can imagine we paid over a million just to loan Kalas last season. 

Yeah I’m sure they count.

Would be a great loophole though 😄

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Having said the above, transfer fees are broken down and spread out - “amortised” - over the life of a contract - meaning not everything counts towards that year’s accounts.

I wish I could get my head round this FFP stuff. I’m not sure where it leaves us. 🤔

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7 minutes ago, Andre_The_Giant said:

Having said the above, transfer fees are broken down and spread out - “amortised” - over the life of a contract - meaning not everything counts towards that year’s accounts.

I wish I could get my head round this FFP stuff. I’m not sure where it leaves us. 🤔

BIB You and the EFL!

My basic understanding is that if player is signed for £8m on a 4 year contract, the fee is amortised over the 4 years of his contract. That means the transfer fee shows on the accounts as £2m expense each year. 

The players annual wages go straight onto the accounts as  an expense.

Spread over longer term contracts,  transfer fees are relatively less of a factor against ffp than are the entirety of the players' wages bill.

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1 minute ago, downendcity said:

My basic understanding is that if player is signed for £8m on a 4 year contract, the fee is amortised over the 4 years of his contract. That means the transfer fee shows on the accounts as £2m expense each year. 

The players annual wages go straight onto the accounts as  an expense.

Spread over longer term contracts,  transfer fees are relatively less of a factor against ffp than are the entirety of the players' wages bill.

Yes, very true. Wages are straight out the door aswell. With transfer fees you have a reasonable expectation of getting some or all of it back when the player is sold.

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It’s all about wages! As mentioned transfer fees are amortised over length of contract but wages are in the FFP immediately in full! So if we did spend say £30m on 5 top quality players, their wages will be £30k per week which would cost £24m over the 3 year FFP period alone! 

Given our underlying losses are circa £15m per year (at least) and you are allowed to lose £13m a year then even with the recent sales we can’t afford to push the boat out too much!

That said I reckon we have 2 marquee signings, 3 team improvers and 3 squad improvers in us at this point, with more if we sell COD or trade others..exciting summer ahead!

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We need to make a good profit on player sales each year to offset our operating losses as we aim to become sustainable. We won’t spend all of the income from player sales; maybe 20% to 25% will be reinvested.

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53 minutes ago, Andre_The_Giant said:

Is there any scope to bring Da Silva and/or Kalas in on loan for another year? That would forego the need to shell out on transfer fees for these players and concentrate on our new striker and his wage demands 😀

My limited (but improving) understanding of FFP rules and what they mean for City is that we’ll be in a much improved position next summer - then SL can really open his Premier League war chest and buy the necessary outright.

Arent Chelsea only allowed to loan out a handful of players next season ? If so, it would be very highly unlikely that we would get two of them.Plus, I think Kalas wants a Perm move somewhere.

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12 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

Arent Chelsea only allowed to loan out a handful of players next season ? If so, it would be very highly unlikely that we would get two of them.Plus, I think Kalas wants a Perm move somewhere.

The new loan rules, if they go through, are set to apply from the 2020-21 season. Even then, there are exemptions for youngsters and “homegrown” players which would apply to the vast majority of their exiled loanees.

Yes, you’re right, Kalas has made it clear he wants a perm move. I’m not confident we’ll get either of them tbh. Leaves quite a hole at left back.

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2 hours ago, WarksRobin said:

We need to make a good profit on player sales each year to offset our operating losses as we aim to become sustainable. We won’t spend all of the income from player sales; maybe 20% to 25% will be reinvested.

Interesting point this.

Sustainable is an interesting thing- you can't do it at Championship in terms of £0 losses, not in this League as it is and move forward- and eventually you'll start going backwards.

Now do we mean sustainable in the sense of within FFP regs- subject to SL financing up to the limit of course, or do we mean sustainable in terms of actual breakeven?

Because if it is the latter, don't think it can be done at this level over any sustained period of time- my definition of sustainable is limiting the losses and staying within the 3 year FFP limit- at least in this League.

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7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Interesting point this.

Sustainable is an interesting thing- you can't do it at Championship in terms of £0 losses, not in this League as it is and move forward- and eventually you'll start going backwards.

Now do we mean sustainable in the sense of within FFP regs- subject to SL financing up to the limit of course, or do we mean sustainable in terms of actual breakeven?

Because if it is the latter, don't think it can be done at this level over any sustained period of time- my definition of sustainable is limiting the losses and staying within the 3 year FFP limit- at least in this League.

Good point. It would be interesting to know what SL means when he says the aspiration is for the club to run sustainably. I always took it to mean breaking even but you’re correct that in terms of FFP it could mean being competitive and working within the restrictions.

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3 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

Good point. It would be interesting to know what SL means when he says the aspiration is for the club to run sustainably. I always took it to mean breaking even but you’re correct that in terms of FFP it could mean being competitive and working within the restrictions.

I think you are spot on, sustainable means working within the FFP rules but also moving the club forward that is why the stadium redevelopment was so crucial and improving income through not only larger crowds but maximising the corporate entertainment as well as using as a 7 day a week facility

The turnover and income is now being maximised to enhance the clubs sustainability and I am sure I seen somewhere that our annual income was around £20m last season so would expect it to have exceeded in this years accounts but still working within a nett loss over a 3 year period but well within FFP rules 

I don’t ever think we will be at a point of making a profit or breaking even unless we had a sustained period in the premier league 

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2 minutes ago, INCRED said:

I think you are spot on, sustainable means working within the FFP rules but also moving the club forward that is why the stadium redevelopment was so crucial and improving income through not only larger crowds but maximising the corporate entertainment as well as using as a 7 day a week facility

The turnover and income is now being maximised to enhance the clubs sustainability and I am sure I seen somewhere that our annual income was around £20m last season so would expect it to have exceeded in this years accounts but still working within a nett loss over a 3 year period but well within FFP rules 

I don’t ever think we will be at a point of making a profit or breaking even unless we had a sustained period in the premier league 

Credit to @Mr Popodopolous. In one sense FFP encourages clubs to act irresponsibly because even if you can break even, you are allowed to make an annual loss so why wouldn’t you spend more than you earn.

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14 hours ago, Lucan said:

We won’t spend that

15m maybe

You don’t know that.

We’ve just got £13m for one player. LJ has made pretty bold statements about this summer and we are now a club regularly knocking on the door of the play offs. It’s obvious that substantial investment is needed to get us to the next level of quality we need.

Assuming no other players leave (which they probably will), and given that we haven’t spent everything gained from last summer’s sales, a £12m net outlay isn’t out of the question in my opinion. Particularly in today’s transfer market, where that isn’t actually much at all.

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I’m pretty sure prices will be raised as clubs know we have money, they are certain now if not before. I don’t think we will be held to ransom and won’t pay top money so I can see dealings difficult and people being disappointed.

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55 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

You don’t know that.

We’ve just got £13m for one player. LJ has made pretty bold statements about this summer and we are now a club regularly knocking on the door of the play offs. It’s obvious that substantial investment is needed to get us to the next level of quality we need.

Assuming no other players leave (which they probably will), and given that we haven’t spent everything gained from last summer’s sales, a £12m net outlay isn’t out of the question in my opinion. Particularly in today’s transfer market, where that isn’t actually much at all.

The problem isn’t with having the cash in hand for transfers, it’s wages

if say the club spend £25m on 4 players, those sort of players won’t come cheap in wages.  I suspect Kelly was on small wages as a youngster from the academy.

Quality Championship players (the sort that will command fees of £6m+) will be wanting significant wages let’s say 20k per week which then inflates our wage bill by around £1m per year per player... and then we fail FFP

all just estimates at this point, but the fact is it’s not easy to spend transfer money on lots of quality

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15 hours ago, Dunc said:

If we spend the £10m we all want on JDS and Kalas, what else do we need? Quality poacher? Another CM or trust Walsh? Improve RB or stick with Hunt / Vyner? We’ve got depth in the squad. I’d like to see us go big on 4 of the above 5 positions. Quality not quantity 

Bearing in mind the value of Lloyd Kelly Dasilva will cost at least that now.

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18 minutes ago, Loon plage said:

Bearing in mind the value of Lloyd Kelly Dasilva will cost at least that now.

I think JDS won't cost much for the simple reason that Chelsea will have to sell a lot of their loaned players due to the rules about number of players you can loan out. I suspect we'll get him cheapish and but with a buyback written into the agreement.

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14 hours ago, Andre_The_Giant said:

The new loan rules, if they go through, are set to apply from the 2020-21 season. Even then, there are exemptions for youngsters and “homegrown” players which would apply to the vast majority of their exiled loanees.

Yes, you’re right, Kalas has made it clear he wants a perm move. I’m not confident we’ll get either of them tbh. Leaves quite a hole at left back.

Surely we could sort that for him to sweeten the deal

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2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

We’ve just got £13m for one player. LJ has made pretty bold statements about this summer and we are now a club regularly knocking on the door of the play offs. It’s obvious that substantial investment is needed to get us to the next level of quality we need.

Assuming no other players leave (which they probably will), and given that we haven’t spent everything gained from last summer’s sales, a £12m net outlay isn’t out of the question in my opinion. Particularly in today’s transfer market, where that isn’t actually much at all.

CoD will be off so the revenue from that sale be added to the £13m already.....and LJ did say recently that he was planning to be ‘bold’ this summer so it’s looking like a really interesting window.

Most of us that watch City can see where the squad needs strengthening. Goalkeeper, left back, creative midfielder and up top and absolutely no doubt at all that LJ can see that as well.Those positions will have been identified and top of the shopping list.

As for Kalas wanting PL football......he’s a very useful Championship CB but when he played for his country both Sterling and Kane tore him a new arsehole.......PL quality he ain’t........

 

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I think the budget was £10m ish and not we have sold Kelly it will be £20m

We can buy CB, LB, CM and ST with that and will be better

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Let Kalas go, get Clarke from Pompey at 4m (maybe?).

Get Jay Dasilva.

That leaves us with a quality CM, striker & a decent RB to get, IMO.

Sell O'Dowda & we will need another winger, possibly a quality one.

2/3 quality signings & two 'good' signings & I think we will have a very strong team.

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4 minutes ago, Unan said:

Let Kalas go, get Clarke from Pompey at 4m (maybe?).

Get Jay Dasilva.

That leaves us with a quality CM, striker & a decent RB to get, IMO.

Sell O'Dowda & we will need another winger, possibly a quality one.

2/3 quality signings & two 'good' signings & I think we will have a very strong team.

Add a keeper and that's seven players needed, better get cracking!

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1 minute ago, Kingswood Robin said:

Add a keeper and that's seven players needed, better get cracking!

Or 4 key players, in my ideal world we'd get a top quality Striker,  RB, CB and CM and that'd be it. I'm sure it won't pan out that way.

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My guesses, lots of either ors...

Keeper - No idea but we seem to be after Davies from Barnsley

CB - Kalas, Clark, Van Der Hoorn (Swansea)

LB- JDS, probably need another

CM- Szmodics (looks done according to the internet) and Joe Williams

RB- I would try for Mason Holgate from Everton on loan, good player and can cover at CB if needed. I admire Bailey for his flexibility but at RB, he struggles, puts the team before himself though so not a criticism of BW the CB.

CF - IF Derby went up, I would try for Marriott again but I also like the look of McBurnie at Swansea. We also seem to be after Moore from Barnsley which says Fammy's off IMHO.

LW- We've already got ME so not such a biggie for me but, probably out of our range, Ryan Fraser is some player and OOC next year. Ademola Lookman on loan would be a statement as well.

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Olsson on a free as competition at LB?

Just been released by Swansea but then their owners appear to be in asset stripping mode, he is 30 however-  but Da Silva and him competing at LB?

Could do much worse.

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I still see wages as a massive problem going forward. We have invested too much into average players. Maybe that was bound to happen as we have gone from relegation candidates each season to playoff fighters.

However it leaves us in a situation where we have expensive players who are not good enough for top 6 sides to be interested in and too expensive for bottom half sides to be interested in. Trading is a term thrown about a lot these past few months but going to be a test to trade some of these contracts. Who is taking on Watkins at 10-12k a week? Who is taking on Baker at 20k a week? When we sell Kelly it barely makes a difference wage wise. As an example it is like we have a 25m transfer budget but 25k wage budget. The two do not match. I am a bit worried at how this summer pans out.

One option I guess would be to gamble. Sign a few on larger wages and hope you can move on a few other salaries this summer and January. We will see but it is a massive window for the club because most of those 17k season card holders are expecting a further investment into a strong squad.  

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Olsson on a free as competition at LB?

Just been released by Swansea but then their owners appear to be in asset stripping mode, he is 30 however-  but Da Silva and him competing at LB?

Could do much worse.

Rather Bidwell released from QPR. That said, both would feel like more a Jack Hunt signing than Kalas signing. Are either good enough to help us finish higher than 8th? 

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6 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

CB - Kalas, Clark, Van Der Hoorn (Swansea)

LB- JDS, probably need another

CM- Szmodics (looks done according to the internet) and Joe Williams

RB- I would try for Mason Holgate from Everton on loan, good player and can cover at CB if needed.

CF - IF Derby went up, I would try for Marriott again but I also like the look of McBurnie at Swansea.

LW- We've already got ME so not such a biggie for me but, probably out of our range, Ryan Fraser is some player and OOC next year. Ademola Lookman on loan would be a statement as well.

McBurnie linked with Sheff U and Brighton. Probably out of our range. Fraser linked with Arsenal and those types no chance. Lookman is wanted by Bundesliga clubs and premier league clubs for 20m + no chance. Marriott a shout if they go up. Imagine Holgate will be looking higher having just spent half a season in the champ but no harm in asking. 

Points out how tough it is to find attacking players. Premier league clubs are desperate for goals so will take the best from the championship. We need to look abroad for a striker. Even types like Nketiah are staying around their first teams for cup games and impact subs

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I mentioned in another thread, we might need seven players to just tread water atm

 

We need a RB, if Kalas and JDS don't return we are going to need a LB and CB (first choice, or behind Wright/Baker) We all think we need a striker and a midfield player to offer options/competition for pack. With Kelly and CoD going we are also going to need more cover so another midfield player and LB.

 

That's potentially 7 players we need just to tread water. 

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11 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

McBurnie linked with Sheff U and Brighton. Probably out of our range. Fraser linked with Arsenal and those types no chance. Lookman is wanted by Bundesliga clubs and premier league clubs for 20m + no chance. Marriott a shout if they go up. Imagine Holgate will be looking higher having just spent half a season in the champ but no harm in asking. 

Points out how tough it is to find attacking players. Premier league clubs are desperate for goals so will take the best from the championship. We need to look abroad for a striker. Even types like Nketiah are staying around their first teams for cup games and impact subs

Cheers Joe, far more informed than I am. That's me shot down then ! ;) 

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17 hours ago, Unan said:

From TransferMarkt so maybe not 100% accurate, but pretty close.

Kelly (13-17m?), Reid £10.22m, Flint £7.20m, Bryan £6.03m, Magnússon £2.52m, Djuric £585k = Roughly 40-44m

Additionally, at the end of 16/17 we sold Tomlin for 3m & at the end of 15/16 we sold Kodjia for 11m = Roughly 54-58m

Our incomings of note in that period have been Tomlin 3m, Fammy 5m, Magnuson 1.9m, Djuric 1.6m, Engvall 1.4m, Taylor Moore 1.5m, O'Dowda 1m, Baker 3.9m, Eliasson 1.8m, Walsh 1m, Webster 3.6m, Wiemann 2m, Eisa 1.5m, Hunt 1.5m & Watkins 1m = 31m

So in the past 3 years we've made roughly 20m profit on players and are the only club that has consistently improved over the last 5 years.

The question now is, how "bold" will we be? how "bold" can we be? and will we make the right signings?

I would hope more money will be invested into youth development from early ages . Bristol City have developed Bryan, Reid and Kelly on a moderate investment in comparison.

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21 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I still see wages as a massive problem going forward. We have invested too much into average players. Maybe that was bound to happen as we have gone from relegation candidates each season to playoff fighters.

However it leaves us in a situation where we have expensive players who are not good enough for top 6 sides to be interested in and too expensive for bottom half sides to be interested in. Trading is a term thrown about a lot these past few months but going to be a test to trade some of these contracts. Who is taking on Watkins at 10-12k a week? Who is taking on Baker at 20k a week? When we sell Kelly it barely makes a difference wage wise. As an example it is like we have a 25m transfer budget but 25k wage budget. The two do not match. I am a bit worried at how this summer pans out.

One option I guess would be to gamble. Sign a few on larger wages and hope you can move on a few other salaries this summer and January. We will see but it is a massive window for the club because most of those 17k season card holders are expecting a further investment into a strong squad.  

Rather Bidwell released from QPR. That said, both would feel like more a Jack Hunt signing than Kalas signing. Are either good enough to help us finish higher than 8th? 

Olsson has a much better pedigree than Bidwell- I was wrong though, aged 31 rather than 30. PL, top half Championship, nearly 50 caps for a decent mid ranked nation in Sweden. My question would be he's now over 30, would it be worth the likely expenditure?

Your point on wages v fees...depends on how much  would like to push the limit- we can mix and match our wage and transfer budget, knowing that if needs be we can sell to reduce the outgoings, amortisation etc- lot would then depend on SL.

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9 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Cheers Joe, far more informed than I am. That's me shot down then ! ;) 

That’s alright sorry if I was rudely blunt. Wasn’t my intention to be rude. 

The names are fine but just shows that the money is insane above our level. Even lesser players than you named are almost impossible. Even if players aren’t playing they retain their value longer and they are generally on wages we can’t afford. Almost impossible to bring in premier league players. 

You named some good players but even lesser ones are too much. Shane Long probably on 40-50k a week. A player I like who is a rotation player at Bournemouth Dan Gosling probably 30-40k. These aren’t even great names but would be record fees and wages I imagine. We are probably in the hardest league to add quality to without overpaying massively. 

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3 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

That’s alright sorry if I was rudely blunt. Wasn’t my intention to be rude. 

The names are fine but just shows that the money is insane above our level. Even lesser players than you named are almost impossible. Even if players aren’t playing they retain their value longer and they are generally on wages we can’t afford. Almost impossible to bring in premier league players. 

You named some good players but even lesser ones are too much. Shane Long probably on 40-50k a week. A player I like who is a rotation player at Bournemouth Dan Gosling probably 30-40k. These aren’t even great names but would be record fees and wages I imagine. We are probably in the hardest league to add quality to without overpaying massively. 

No need for apologies Joe, you're absolutely spot on mate. 

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Last year's sales balanced the previous year's losses so I believe the plan was always to spend this Summer on the basis that if we fell short again, 19/20's losses would just replace 17/18's on the three year FFP cycle. With that in mind I was cautiously expecting us to spend between £15-20m. LJ talking of bold signings further bolstered that view. With LK leaving and COD expected to, that budget could move up towards £30m without putting us in danger of falling foul of FFP.

With that kind of budget we could sign JDS and Kalas permanently and go back in for Assombalonga. I believe we will end up bringing Steffen in on a season long loan, then pick up Williams on a smaller fee (£1-2m) and our squad won't be a million miles away from competing at the top.

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18 hours ago, Pezo said:

Do we need to factor in costs of loans for FFP? I can imagine we paid over a million just to loan Kalas last season. 

Yes

18 hours ago, Andre_The_Giant said:

Yeah I’m sure they count.

Would be a great loophole though 😄

Unfortunately not....Kalas £1m loan fee is the same cost as buying him for £5m and a 5 year contract....

....apart from you own the asset to sell on for a fee.

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1 hour ago, Ian M said:

Last year's sales balanced the previous year's losses so I believe the plan was always to spend this Summer on the basis that if we fell short again, 19/20's losses would just replace 17/18's on the three year FFP cycle. With that in mind I was cautiously expecting us to spend between £15-20m. LJ talking of bold signings further bolstered that view. With LK leaving and COD expected to, that budget could move up towards £30m without putting us in danger of falling foul of FFP.

With that kind of budget we could sign JDS and Kalas permanently and go back in for Assombalonga. I believe we will end up bringing Steffen in on a season long loan, then pick up Williams on a smaller fee (£1-2m) and our squad won't be a million miles away from competing at the top.

That's correct... although have no idea as to who we'll buy and amount we'll spend, but this Summer has been focussed as the big push because of our financial situation.

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2 hours ago, Ian M said:

Last year's sales balanced the previous year's losses so I believe the plan was always to spend this Summer on the basis that if we fell short again, 19/20's losses would just replace 17/18's on the three year FFP cycle. With that in mind I was cautiously expecting us to spend between £15-20m. LJ talking of bold signings further bolstered that view. With LK leaving and COD expected to, that budget could move up towards £30m without putting us in danger of falling foul of FFP.

With that kind of budget we could sign JDS and Kalas permanently and go back in for Assombalonga. I believe we will end up bringing Steffen in on a season long loan, then pick up Williams on a smaller fee (£1-2m) and our squad won't be a million miles away from competing at the top.

Assambolnga would shatter the wage structure - rumoured to be on 40k per week

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3 minutes ago, Lucan said:

Assambolnga would shatter the wage structure - rumoured to be on 40k per week

£55k rumoured elsewhere too....certainly out of our league.

I’m mixed about him.  Like him as a powerful CF, but not sure he’s top drawer.

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6 hours ago, RedM said:

I’m pretty sure prices will be raised as clubs know we have money, they are certain now if not before. I don’t think we will be held to ransom and won’t pay top money so I can see dealings difficult and people being disappointed.

I see your point but I believe that Ashton will , quite rightly, point out the fact that we need to sell players to pay the running costs of the club .

Whilst we are not a big club with parachute payments I believe that we have always been perceived as one that will pay the correct, fair  price for a new  player as our owner is not a mad foreign investor willing to sacrifice everything just to get their man.

I understand your point of view and it seems logical but most clubs know that we won’t be taken for a ride .

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4 hours ago, Robbored said:

CoD will be off so the revenue from that sale be added to the £13m already.....and LJ did say recently that he was planning to be ‘bold’ this summer so it’s looking like a really interesting window.

Most of us that watch City can see where the squad needs strengthening. Goalkeeper, left back, creative midfielder and up top and absolutely no doubt at all that LJ can see that as well.Those positions will have been identified and top of the shopping list.

As for Kalas wanting PL football......he’s a very useful Championship CB but when he played for his country both Sterling and Kane tore him a new arsehole.......PL quality he ain’t........

 

We all took ‘ bold ‘ to be buying big , what if he meant ‘ bold ‘ as in buying players like Cundy and Szmodics , throwing in academy players in to the first team ? 

That’s pretty bold .

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