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1 hour ago, TomF said:

With all the talk of GoT this shows quietly come along and rocketed to the top of the all time IMDB tv show charts - https://m.imdb.com/chart/toptv?ref_=m_nv_tv250

Anyone else watching it? If not get on the on demand - absolutely top drawer TV. Grim viewing at times but you see the best and worst of the humans on the way.

Started watching last week. Absolutely fantastic and enthralling stuff. Great cast, very dark at times but you also see the best of the human race as you say - people helping out knowing they'll die from either radiation poisoning or Gorbachov's henchmen.

Episode 3 when the fire fighters start dying from the skin radiation is harrowing to watch.

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4 minutes ago, phantom said:

I'm guessing I need to give it another try then?

I'd say its not for everyone - it goes in at the angle of not why the explosion happened but more how they found out what happened/what went wrong and the consequences of it all.  

18 minutes ago, Undy English said:

Started watching last week. Absolutely fantastic and enthralling stuff. Great cast, very dark at times but you also see the best of the human race as you say - people helping out knowing they'll die from either radiation poisoning or Gorbachov's henchmen.

Episode 3 when the fire fighters start dying from the skin radiation is harrowing to watch.

The makeup must of taken hours, it was hard to remember at times it was just that.  The leaded coffins being covered in concrete was harrowing. 

Jerad Harris is out of this world, deserves to pick up some awards for this. 

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2 hours ago, phantom said:

Must admit, I watched the first episode but never really got into.

Was watching episode 2 last night and stopped watching at an ad break and deleted it - just couldn't get into it

Same here mate. Rivierra is another series that doesn't live up to it's hype.

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Yep, looking forward to part 4.

It confirms pretty much how poorly prepared the Soviet Union were for an accident of this kind and magnitude. The rotten empire collapsed just a few years later, of course.

The helicopter falling out of the sky was pretty dramatic; and really brought home to them the extent of the problem they were facing.

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18 hours ago, 22A said:

Same here mate. Rivierra is another series that doesn't live up to it's hype.

Struggled to get through the first series, first two episodes downloaded overnight, will attempt to watch later today

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On 23/05/2019 at 13:31, TomF said:

With all the talk of GoT this shows quietly come along and rocketed to the top of the all time IMDB tv show charts - https://m.imdb.com/chart/toptv?ref_=m_nv_tv250

Anyone else watching it? If not get on the on demand - absolutely top drawer TV. Grim viewing at times but you see the best and worst of the humans on the way.

Saw the latest episode, it is horrific but very good... 

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On 23/05/2019 at 15:11, TomF said:

Jerad Harris is out of this world, deserves to pick up some awards for this. 

Only just got into this and caught up on 3 eps over the weekend. Heavy going but facinating to watch. I never realised just how close they came to making a huge part of Europe an irradiated wasteland that would of displaced 10s of millions. I knew it was bad but it could of been far, far worse.

Didn't know until i brought up his Wiki that he is the son of the late, great Richard Harris. Certainly a decent acting pedigree there - probably likes a scuffle as well!

 

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1 hour ago, Undy English said:

Seriously?? I had no idea!! When is this out and where can I watch it? NOW TV hopefully?

Should be on Sky Atlantic this weekend as it is on HBO on Friday. Fingers crossed anyway!

edit: just checked and it will be simulcast on Sky Atlantic at 2am on Saturday morning. 

All  the principle cast returning except Powers Booth, Richardson and Titus Wellick

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4 hours ago, WarksRobin said:

Should be on Sky Atlantic this weekend as it is on HBO on Friday. Fingers crossed anyway!

edit: just checked and it will be simulcast on Sky Atlantic at 2am on Saturday morning. 

All  the principle cast returning except Powers Booth, Richardson and Titus Wellick

Great news, just watched the trailer. It seems to focus on the incorporation of the town into the state of South Dakota, meaning the previously lawless ways have to make way for US federal law & politics.

For me personally, Deadwood & The Sopranos probably the front runners in the greatest TV shows of all time.

As for Chernobyl, another great episode last night. Very sad with the dogs, and the Soviet's relying on 'human robots' to shift the graphite in 90 second rooftop runs was intense. 

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On 23/05/2019 at 13:31, TomF said:

With all the talk of GoT this shows quietly come along and rocketed to the top of the all time IMDB tv show charts - https://m.imdb.com/chart/toptv?ref_=m_nv_tv250

Anyone else watching it? If not get on the on demand - absolutely top drawer TV. Grim viewing at times but you see the best and worst of the humans on the way.

Tried watching it but fell asleep 💤it was about a load of Russians and an explosion at a nuclear power station. A bit boring really!

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I think the fact of what it is prevents a real 'hype' factor or over excitement for watching it for me, not doubt its very good and excellently well done but just find it hard to watch in moments. If its true, never realised how close they came to the follow up incident.

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Excellent, i like the fact they haven't tried to make it sexy or action packed,they have just told the whole grim story.I am guessing people who are bored and are not enjoying really must be more into fiction shows set a higher pace. (i can enjoy both)

 

The one thing that I have started to find annoying is the sound track, they have chosen the right kind of thing for this show, but it is on almost constantly, they need to cut it back a little.

 

Apart from that a cracking show.

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On 28/05/2019 at 14:34, Gazred said:

Only just got into this and caught up on 3 eps over the weekend. Heavy going but facinating to watch. I never realised just how close they came to making a huge part of Europe an irradiated wasteland that would of displaced 10s of millions. I knew it was bad but it could of been far, far worse.

Didn't know until i brought up his Wiki that he is the son of the late, great Richard Harris. Certainly a decent acting pedigree there - probably likes a scuffle as well!

 

Didn’t realise that Con O’Neil is a WSM lad either. 

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Slightly off topic but when I lived in Weymouth the local charities used to fly the children and carers of Chernobyl over for a holiday, used to do fundraisers to raise the money, my girlfriend at the time was a singer, and her little girl was Perrie Edwards from Little Mix. Top of the bill was usually the legend that is Jumping Jimmy Thunder, the king of rock and roll ( in Weymouth anyways!)

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On 01/06/2019 at 08:08, swanker said:

Tried watching it but fell asleep 💤it was about a load of Russians and an explosion at a nuclear power station. A bit boring really!

Think you should try doing a tad more research on just what went on... This show will educate some, in regards to what could happen if a nuclear power plant does explode... It isn't JUST an explosion at a power plant, it had the capability of changing Europe as we know it. 

The human sacrifice was incredible. The stupidity by the Soviets put millions at risk. And tried covering it up, of course. The sorta thing that still goes on today, sadly. 

I found it incredibly well done and highly fascinating. 

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I read this online just now, will be of interest to those of you that have watched the series

There are references to scenes in the TV show below, so if you are not up to date you may not want to read the below just yet. . . . .

 

MILLIONS of viewers have been captivated by the horrifying scenes in Sky Atlantic drama Chernobyl.

But perhaps the most chilling aspect of the five-parter, which concludes tonight, is that the real thing was too distressing for TV.

Series creator Craig Mazin says there was no need to exaggerate the events of the 1986 nuclear disaster in Pripyat, Ukraine – real life was devastating enough. He says: “What is dramatic about Chernobyl doesn’t need anything extra.

“Believe it or not, this is the RESTRAINED version of what actually happened there, because there are some accounts where it gets even worse. But there’s no question it took an enormous number of lives, and  shortened an enormous number of lives – particularly children.”

The joint Sky, HBO and Sister Pictures series, which stars Emily Watson, Jared Harris and Stellan Skarsgard, has already been hailed as “the greatest drama of all time” and credited with bringing to life a secretive period in Soviet history.

Bosses in charge of the nuclear reactor tried for years to play down the severity of the explosion and subsequent radiation poisoning.

Although officials put the death toll at 28, with a further 15 caused indirectly, other estimates run into the tens of thousands.

Craig  and his team went into painstaking detail to recreate the disaster and its haunting aftermath, including these key scenes.

 

THE EXPLOSION

THE first episode opens with the explosion at the reactor and is followed by  panic as workers tried to control the resulting fire.

These early scenes capture the real-life disaster, which was  the result of a safety test carried out by an inexperienced and inadequately prepared crew of night shift workers.

Senior engineer Leonid Toptunov (played by Robert Emms), who had only been in the job for four months, was given the critical task of managing the control rods inside the reactor core.

Deputy chief engineer Anatoly Dyatlov (Paul Ritter) made a series of reckless decisions which pushed the reactor to extremes. He was widely blamed for the disaster.

The TV crew filmed at Chernobyl’s twin reactor, the decommissioned Ignalina nuclear power plant in Lithuania, to ensure further authenticity, and the Unit 4 control room is faithfully recreated, including the dials on the walls and the white coats and caps worn by the operators.

 

CASUALTIES ARRIVE AT HOSPITAL

WITHIN four minutes of the explosion, the first firefighters arrived at the reactor. Eventually, around 50 trucks were on the scene but crews were  told to expect nothing more than a simple roof fire and did not wear any protection from radiation.

When they were taken to hospital, they still did not entirely realise the danger they had been in. The scene in which the firefighters are calmly playing cards at hospital actually happened.

Many of the medical staff were also unaware of the threat of radiation burns and treated them with milk, as seen on the series, because it had been drummed into them that the nuclear reactor was  completely safe.

However, some switched-on medical staff did realise the peril they were all in, and immediately stripped the firefighters and threw their uniforms into the basement. Chillingly,  the uniforms are still, to this day, where they landed. They have never been moved or incinerated, as nobody dares touch them.

 

HELICOPTER CRASH

TO put out the fire, brave helicopter pilots flew over the accident site to drop loads of lead, boron and sand on the reactor as it belched radiation.

Recreating this scene in the Sky Atlantic drama, Valery Legasov (Jared Harris) and government bureaucrat Boris Shcherbina (Stellan Skarsgard) watch in silent horror as one of the helicopters gets too close to the radiation, crashes into a crane and falls out of the sky.

The crash happened many months later than depicted in the series but creator Craig says he wanted to include it early on to show viewers the horror  the pilots would have been faced with when  dealing with the open reactor.

There were many hundreds of flights over the reactor following the initial explosion and often the helicopter doors had to be opened so that people aboard could “dump stuff over the side” in an attempt to contain the radiation permeating from the plant.

 

DIVERS GO INTO THE REACTOR

ONE heartbreaking scene in the second episode shows men volunteering to go inside the reactor, in full diving gear, to help avert another disaster in the flooded basement of the reactor.

There was a significant risk that melting uranium would eventually burn through the concrete floor of the core and instantly vaporise 7,000 cubic metres of water stored in the safety tanks below.

This would have created a thermal explosion large enough to destroy the remaining three reactors at the Chernobyl plant and render much of Eastern Europe a radioactive wasteland that would be uninhabitable for at least a century.

Alexei Ananenko, Valeri Bezpalov and shift supervisor Boris Baranov were the three real volunteers who successfully navigated the radioactive waters in the basement and  opened the gates with hours to spare. Two of these three unsung heroes are, amazingly, still alive. The other died of a heart attack in 2005.

 

BRIDGE OF DEATH

HOURS after the explosion, some Pripyat residents gathered on the railway bridge just outside the city in order to get a better view of the colourful fire. Children are seen dancing in the poison dust deposits that were being blown through the air, as if it were snow.

This has been written about in accounts of the time. Of the people who watched from the bridge, it has been reported that none survived.

Some dismiss the Bridge of Death as an urban myth.

 

TUNNEL DUG UNDER  REACTOR

TO stop uranium from penetrating the ground water, reaching the Black Sea and spreading fatal contamination throughout Europe, 400 miners were tasked with digging a tunnel underneath the melting reactor to create space for a heat exchanger.

The scenes depicting miners risking their lives  in fatally toxic conditions  beggar belief but are totally true.

They worked around the clock for a month in temperatures exceeding 50C and without ventilation. It was so hot, they worked naked apart from hats and boots.

One in four miners died before the age of 40.

The heat exchanger was never installed as the fuel cooled on its own, meaning the miners had toiled for nothing.

The camaraderie depicted on the show was true to life. One miner has said: “Perhaps it’s a sin to say so but it was a wonderful time.

“I didn’t want to leave that place. That was the way we related to one another.”

 

DOGS ARE SHOT DEAD

HUNDREDS of thousands of liquidators were employed to “cleanse” the exclusion zone around the reactor. Their tasks included bulldozing villages, hosing down streets and shooting animals because they feared they would spread contamination.

Residents being evacuated from Pripyat were ordered to leave  pets behind. One scene shows a dog running after a bus and scrambling to get on to reach its owners. It is another accurate account of the heartbreaking  aftermath.

One dog was locked in a house with a note pinned to the door, reading: “Don’t kill our Zhulka. She’s a good dog.”

Writer Svetlana Alexievich’s Chernobyl Prayer, a collection of people’s memories of the disaster, quotes a sniper as saying: “This little poodle began scrabbling about. It climbed out. Nobody had any cartridges left. Nothing to finish it off with. Not a single cartridge. They shoved it back into the pit and covered it all up with earth. Still feel sorry for it.”

 

90 SECONDS TO CLEAR ROOF

A TENSE scene from episode four shows volunteers being sent to the roof to clear the radioactive debris in the weeks and months after the explosion. Because of the huge risk of contamination, volunteers in protective clothing and gas masks were allowed to spend only 90 seconds each on the roof to remove as much debris as possible – some blocks  weighed  40kg and 50kg – and throw them back into the core. It would than be covered with concrete and steel.

Commander Nikolai Tarakanov (Ralph Ineson) tells volunteers: “Climb the stairs, then take your breath. You will need to, for what is ahead. These are the most  important 90 seconds of your lives.”

As in the show,   robots had initially been tried  to remove the debris but the  radiation  destroyed their circuitry.

It was left to 3,828 volunteers to spend the summer of 1986 removing the debris by hand. Many spent more than 90  seconds on the roof and many went up more than once.

 

LYUDMILLA LOSES HER BABY

MOST of the characters in Chernobyl are based on real people, including Lyudmilla Ignatenko (Jessie Buckley), the wife of  fireman Vasily (Adam Nagaitis). Devastating scenes show pregnant Lyudmilla going against medical advice not to touch Vasily as he lies dying in hospital.

Lyudmilla was told by doctors: “If you start crying, I’ll kick you out. No hugging or kissing. You have half an hour.”

She has said since: “We remembered the wedding, our home. He tried to joke, he told funny stories – just to make me smile. We supported each other. It was true love, because I never experienced such a feeling.”

He died a fortnight later and was buried in a zinc coffin. Lyudmilla lost her baby.

 

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7 minutes ago, TMWANG50 said:

Someone was telling me you can actually go on holiday to Chernobyl now... 👀

Not on holiday but you can go and visit the exclusion zone - you have been able to do this for years - 10+ years. Same as you can go to Fukishima and North Korea if you want to. 

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1 minute ago, TomF said:

Not on holiday but you can go and visit the exclusion zone - you have been able to do this for years - 10+ years. Same as you can go to Fukishima and North Korea if you want to. 

Have you seen the Dark Tourist on Netflix? They go to Fukishima and the Geiger counter goes a wee bit more mental than it should do. 

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4 minutes ago, Coppello said:

Have you seen the Dark Tourist on Netflix? They go to Fukishima and the Geiger counter goes a wee bit more mental than it should do. 

Aye, I have friends who've been to Privpat, Fukushima and North Korea. All fine as long as you are sensible.

Good report on Fukushima:

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/fukushima-no-go-zone-radioactive-abandoned-towns.99422/

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