JBFC II Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Ronaldo / Messi arguments are so tiresome. Please stop. I’m not taking part in one, personally I have the same view as you. We should enjoy watching them both whilst we can, both top quality players. Im just stating that the South American qualification system is much tougher than the UEFA one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, JBFC II said: To be fair, the South American qualifying competitions are much tougher. Argentina play Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay and Peru. Compare that to Ronaldo who faced Switzerland, the Faroe Islands, Andorra, Hungary and Latvia in his last World Cup qualification group and I can see where @AshtonGreat is coming from You're conveniently forgetting that in the South American format of qualification you don't actually need to beat or perform against any of the teams in that list we might reasonably assume are good - and Chile, Paraguay and Peru fall out of that category on a regular basis. Argentina can get to tournaments without ever beating a peer. In Europe the format while group based ultimately comes down to beating one or two good teams who might qualify and wade through the others. Portugal always starts slowly but finds its way past the Switzerland, Serbia and Sweden's of this world who are up there on rankings as a direct competitor for anyone. For this particular "tournament" Portugal got the better of Italy and Poland. I can't actually stand the Messi v Ronaldo debate as I don't live in a playground and don't need to declare a winner but some of the lines of argument which are floated for the benefit of one or other are so misinformed and engineered it's painful (not aimed at you, whose OTIB contributions I enjoy!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Same problem as World Cup. We cannot transition through the last two thirds of the pitch, by possession. Put simply we do not have a Modric, Pogba, or Hazard, who can confidently move through the pitch and retain possession. We have an Ali, lindegard etc. Great deserved goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Olé said: You're conveniently forgetting that in the South American format of qualification you don't actually need to beat or perform against any of the teams in that list we might reasonably assume are good - and Chile, Paraguay and Peru fall out of that category on a regular basis. Argentina can get to tournaments without ever beating a peer. In Europe the format while group based ultimately comes down to beating one or two good teams who might qualify and wade through the others. Portugal always starts slowly but finds its way past the Switzerland, Serbia and Sweden's of this world who are up there on rankings as a direct competitor for anyone. For this particular "tournament" Portugal got the better of Italy and Poland. I can't actually stand the Messi v Ronaldo debate as I don't live in a playground and don't need to declare a winner but some of the lines of argument which are floated for the benefit of one or other are so misinformed and engineered it's painful (not aimed at you, whose OTIB contributions I enjoy!) I get what you’re saying, but that doesn’t make the sides the South American teams have to face any less tough. Either way, I’m not going to get involved in a Ronaldo v Messi argument. It’s like the greatest tennis player argument, totally pointless... We should enjoy them both whilst we can, two very different players but two players who you could make a decent claim to being the best in history. Although neither of them get close to Eliasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 ******* shit defending all game, start work at 6 now i'm going to have to stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 If only Sancho wouldn’t have ballsed up his simple header by not watching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 It’s been coming..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Unan said: ******* Chilwell is awful Amazing that I have no idea who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Deja vu, we keep standing off these middling teams and paying the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 So poor in possession behind the striker/strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Stones switched off...again. He aint good enough. Can't see any other result than a loss from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Not played much football really have we? Looking like what we are out there, pretty much a borderline scratch England side playing out of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 No doubt we have really improved as a team but my god we need a midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Finally Henderson on. Good move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Why did GS take off Sancho? Did nothing wrong and was not tiring, poor decision imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 IMO England have been poor all game. Give the ball away countless times. So predictable. As for Pickfords kicking absolutely shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 2-1!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 VAR! Bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Looked offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 WHAT A GOAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Ouch, shows how important VAR is I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Going to get chalked off, which is a shame as it was some quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Why they looking at this? Never a pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Offside by a toe, it’s ridiculous. That’s not obvious to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 VAR can **** right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Super said: Why they looking at this? Never a pen Tbf it looked like it was at first look I thought. But definitely wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 He was offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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