Undy English Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 For those unaware, for some time now both the Westminster Government and Welsh Assembly have been looking into building a 6 lane M4 relief road around the Newport area. For those unaware, congestion around South Wales on the M4 is horrific. Hours of delays for commuters and commercial vehicles. Business suffering and new businesses being put off setting up shop in Wales. After years of discussion, £40mil spent and compulsory purchases, the Welsh Assembly threw the idea out yesterday citing costs (1.4bil) and wildlife concerns. For any on OTIB who live in S.Wales or use the M4 to commute, this will be extremely disappointing news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 5, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Astounded by this decision, the amount of times I have sat in a traffic jam trying to get through those tunnels ! It must be a nightmare for a daily commute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Madness how the NIMBYs and climate protestors win - how is not doing this going to improve the air pollution given the cluster**** that is the M4 around Newport currently. Not sure how it’s going to ruin a idyllic bit of land either, it’s going past Llanwern steelworks ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, TomF said: Madness how the NIMBYs and climate protestors win - how is not doing this going to improve the air pollution given the cluster**** that is the M4 around Newport currently. Not sure how it’s going to ruin a idyllic bit of land either, it’s going past Llanwern steelworks ffs Possibly with the bridge tolls scrapped the land is more valuable for housing? Crazy decision by the few which affects the many yet again. I really do wonder if the people who reject this sort of stuff ever experience it, they probably wizz through cocooned in their First Class rail carriages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Horrendous decision, have lived in both Cardiff and Newport and its just pointless leaving at certain times as you know you won't be moving, I sometimes took the A48 instead as it would get me between Newport and Cardiff quicker than the motorway. Its so busy they practically just leave the variable speed changes on all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 A commission to find alternative ways to ease M4 congestion at Newport will make initial findings in six months, Wales' transport minister Ken Skates said. Mr Skates said the body will look at finding a combination of solutions to tackle the problem. But he said greater use of routes such as the A465 needed to be examined. You mean the A465 which doesn't really help people using the M4 anyway and certainly those who start their journey in wales.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 On subject of M4 what's the latest of a junction at Emersons Green or was that just talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 That Newport stretch of the M4 is the busiest bit of inner city motorway outside of the M25. Anything happening in the Brynglas tunnels absolutely stuffs the whole area for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Northern Red said: That Newport stretch of the M4 is the busiest bit of inner city motorway outside of the M25. Anything happening in the Brynglas tunnels absolutely stuffs the whole area for hours. I had to go to the data centre in Newport Friday before last - 4.5 hour round trip and I spend a grand total of 15 minutes at the DC! The road when you come off at Major and route round past Llanwern isn’t bad but it still gets choked by couple of lousy roundabouts in Newport. If nothing else if they could extend that to all dual carriage way to where the A48 junction is on M4 it would be something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 If it was going to go where I think it was the marshes it would go across aren`t anything special from what I remember from driving across there. It just seemed to be where most of Cardiff and Newport did their fly tipping to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 ….a 'relief' road would be brilliant, instead of approaching the area at break neck speed and pissing through those tunnels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 I thought this thread was gonna be about dogging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I thought this thread was gonna be about dogging Do you mean you hoped this thread was going to be about dogging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I thought this thread was gonna be about dogging That discussion is going on in the small to medium SUV thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Slacker said: Do you mean you hoped this thread was going to be about dogging? Haha yeah just call me Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 'But a relief road isn't needed' https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/17704855.crash-causes-five-miles-of-traffic-on-m4/?fbclid=IwAR3lqnPLzcA1iWe0d7hujJf1POFa5HDW0iN2AkDzI3K8a8UmJ3bEYh3cGgE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyInWeston Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 The M4 Newport and in Port Talbot has now had its "temporary" 50mph speed limit permanent. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/50mph-speed-limits-m4-made-16470461 Judging by the way (I dont travel these roads) that it jams due to the tunnels in Newport, This wont make an ounce of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 hours ago, CrazyInWeston said: The M4 Newport and in Port Talbot has now had its "temporary" 50mph speed limit permanent. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/50mph-speed-limits-m4-made-16470461 Judging by the way (I dont travel these roads) that it jams due to the tunnels in Newport, This wont make an ounce of difference. Wait that was temporary? Port Talbot always annoyed me driving to Swansea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, hodge said: Wait that was temporary? Port Talbot always annoyed me driving to Swansea On a busy day you’ll struggle to do 50mph on that bit anyway. Port Talbot air quality though, I can’t help think the motorway isn’t really the main issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Relief Roads are a great idea, there should be more of them everywhere. No more pissing yourself while pissing along the motorway... Relief Roads can solve the problem with drive through public conveniences, for when you gotta go when you gotta on the go... brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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