formerly known as ivan Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 A thread that is started most times he plays for England, but... If the stories are true and he was that close to signing for us under Cotterill, SL must be kicking himself for messing about with the agreed fee. World Cup semi finalist and being linked with £90m moves. Surely the biggest player we have genuinely missed out on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 Trevor Francis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 Bale on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 A short story of the 2015 summer transfer window: 18th July 2015 - Harry Maguire bid rejected: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/9900976/hull-reject-bristol-city-bid-for-harry-maguire 3rd August 2015 - We're linked with signing Jesse Lingard for £2.5m (although I'm not sure if this was genuine!) https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/144036/robins-on-gard/?fbclid=IwAR1aETBN9bVpM8o_8f4IEXsqqy3j6osJPDvjBs6Aj0CUrQbiC0nyniuA3N8 12th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Dwight Gayle: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/cotterill-confirms-gayle-bid-accepted/ 18th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Andre Gray: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33974678 But it's okay, our saviour joined us in January: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Coppello said: A short story of the 2015 summer transfer window: 18th July 2015 - Harry Maguire bid rejected: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/9900976/hull-reject-bristol-city-bid-for-harry-maguire 3rd August 2015 - We're linked with signing Jesse Lingard for £2.5m (although I'm not sure if this was genuine!) https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/144036/robins-on-gard/?fbclid=IwAR1aETBN9bVpM8o_8f4IEXsqqy3j6osJPDvjBs6Aj0CUrQbiC0nyniuA3N8 12th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Dwight Gayle: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/cotterill-confirms-gayle-bid-accepted/ 18th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Andre Gray: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33974678 But it's okay, our saviour joined us in January: A what could of been summer , if ever there was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: A what could of been summer , if ever there was one. I did miss out the signing of Kodjia which wasn't a bad bit of business in all fairness! There were our other incomings according to wiki: Date from Position Nationality Name From Fee Ref. 20 July 2015 CF Jonathan Kodjia Angers £2,000,000 [2][3] 6 August 2015 RB Ryan Fredericks Tottenham Hotspur Undisclosed [4] 7 January 2016 CF Paul Garita Châteauroux £50,000 [5] 28 January 2016 LB Scott Golbourne Wovlerhampton Wanderers Undisclosed [6] 1 February 2016 GK Richard O'Donnell Wigan Athletic Undisclosed [7] It does make you wince a little bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Coppello said: I did miss out the signing of Kodjia which wasn't a bad bit of business in all fairness! There were our other incomings according to wiki: Date from Position Nationality Name From Fee Ref. 20 July 2015 CF Jonathan Kodjia Angers £2,000,000 [2][3] 6 August 2015 RB Ryan Fredericks Tottenham Hotspur Undisclosed [4] 7 January 2016 CF Paul Garita Châteauroux £50,000 [5] 28 January 2016 LB Scott Golbourne Wovlerhampton Wanderers Undisclosed [6] 1 February 2016 GK Richard O'Donnell Wigan Athletic Undisclosed [7] It does make you wince a little bit! Don`t forget a few loans which didn`t really work out -Robinson, Pearce, Cox, and the CB from Leicester who`s name escapes me for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, Coppello said: A short story of the 2015 summer transfer window: 18th July 2015 - Harry Maguire bid rejected: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/9900976/hull-reject-bristol-city-bid-for-harry-maguire 3rd August 2015 - We're linked with signing Jesse Lingard for £2.5m (although I'm not sure if this was genuine!) https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/144036/robins-on-gard/?fbclid=IwAR1aETBN9bVpM8o_8f4IEXsqqy3j6osJPDvjBs6Aj0CUrQbiC0nyniuA3N8 12th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Dwight Gayle: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/cotterill-confirms-gayle-bid-accepted/ 18th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Andre Gray: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33974678 But it's okay, our saviour joined us in January: Temper when £50k was a punt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 I remember us trying to sign Owen on loan I think after we sold Goater. Few months later he's bursting onto the scene in the Liverpool team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted June 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Don`t forget a few loans which didn`t really work out -Robinson, Pearce, Cox, and the CB from Leicester who`s name escapes me for the moment. Liam Moore. Apparently was never fit and struggled with injuries during his time with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: A thread that is started most times he plays for England, but... If the stories are true and he was that close to signing for us under Cotterill, SL must be kicking himself for messing about with the agreed fee. World Cup semi finalist and being linked with £90m moves. Surely the biggest player we have genuinely missed out on? Yes and Dwight gayle or Andre gray two big sell on fees missed out on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 Seeing some of the names mentioned I suppose it does prove that at least we can identify a player with potential at times. Trouble is it is balanced with the ones we pretty soon confirm are duds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, paul_fox said: I remember us trying to sign Owen on loan I think after we sold Goater. Few months later he's bursting onto the scene in the Liverpool team I doubt it - when Goater left us Michael Owen had played a whole season for Liverpool’s first team scoring 23 goals in 44 games and he had also already played for the senior England team ... we were actually linked with Owen on loan when we signed David James during the Steve Coppell debacle ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 I've always thought Cotts was a good judge of a player, his recruitment to put the L1 championship team together was faultless Wilbs Smith Little Ayling Freeman etc for very little money , for the Championship his identification of McGuire Grey was spot on, and the signing of Kodjia - £2-3M and sell for £12-15M was the best example of SL's philosophy of (if we buy we buy young value , develop and sell at a big profit) which we haven't yet equalled. Despite this a certain tedious poster continues to flog the line that SC didn't carry out SL's wishes when he actually has been the most successful at it. Clearly we are in a good (probably better) place under LJ now - in terms of whole club development- but had we completed on the deal on McGuire we would have made a hefty return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, CodeRed said: I've always thought Cotts was a good judge of a player, his recruitment to put the L1 championship team together was faultless Wilbs Smith Little Ayling Freeman etc for very little money , for the Championship his identification of McGuire Grey was spot on, and the signing of Kodjia - £2-3M and sell for £12-15M was the best example of SL's philosophy of (if we buy we buy young value , develop and sell at a big profit) which we haven't yet equalled. Despite this a certain tedious poster continues to flog the line that SC didn't carry out SL's wishes when he actually has been the most successful at it. Clearly we are in a good (probably better) place under LJ now - in terms of whole club development- but had we completed on the deal on McGuire we would have made a hefty return. I always assumed this was down to circles he worked in with people like Redknnapp. I would imagine there are always things going on behind closed doors between him and his mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Coppello said: A short story of the 2015 summer transfer window: 18th July 2015 - Harry Maguire bid rejected: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/9900976/hull-reject-bristol-city-bid-for-harry-maguire 3rd August 2015 - We're linked with signing Jesse Lingard for £2.5m (although I'm not sure if this was genuine!) https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/144036/robins-on-gard/?fbclid=IwAR1aETBN9bVpM8o_8f4IEXsqqy3j6osJPDvjBs6Aj0CUrQbiC0nyniuA3N8 12th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Dwight Gayle: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/cotterill-confirms-gayle-bid-accepted/ 18th August 2015 - Bid accepted for Andre Gray: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33974678 But it's okay, our saviour joined us in January: I have mixed feeling about this - would they have been as good if they had come to us …. who knows but we do have a history of bringing in marquee signings and rather than it raising the tide within the team we bring them down to our level. luckily those days are a bit behind us now we have the training facilities in place that these type of players need to stay at there best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fpcity Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I doubt it - when Goater left us Michael Owen had played a whole season for Liverpool’s first team scoring 23 goals in 44 games and he had also already played for the senior England team ... we were actually linked with Owen on loan when we signed David James during the Steve Coppell debacle ... It may have been before Goater then. Was definitely the season before he made his debut for Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, paul_fox said: It may have been before Goater then. Was definitely the season before he made his debut for Liverpool The pre season of his Liverpool breakthrough (97/98 ?) year we played Liverpool in a pre season friendly at AG and 16/17 yr old Michael Owen scored at the East End. Is this what you are getting confused with. Owen was always highly regarded and no way would Liverpool have loaned him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky89 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Christ. If Fredericks worked out and we managed to get Maguire and Limgard over the line. Hurts a little bit - especially with THAT squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 8 hours ago, CodeRed said: I've always thought Cotts was a good judge of a player, his recruitment to put the L1 championship team together was faultless Wilbs Smith Little Ayling Freeman etc for very little money , for the Championship his identification of McGuire Grey was spot on, and the signing of Kodjia - £2-3M and sell for £12-15M was the best example of SL's philosophy of (if we buy we buy young value , develop and sell at a big profit) which we haven't yet equalled. Despite this a certain tedious poster continues to flog the line that SC didn't carry out SL's wishes when he actually has been the most successful at it. Clearly we are in a good (probably better) place under LJ now - in terms of whole club development- but had we completed on the deal on McGuire we would have made a hefty return. Unfortunately for SC, Steve Lansdown didn’t agree with you CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I can’t remember if it was Maguire or not, but I do remember us trying to sign a defender for about £2.5m, agreeing personal terms, and then trying to go back and knock down the fee. The selling club then quite rightly told us to do one. Could all have been rumours of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, nebristolred said: I can’t remember if it was Maguire or not, but I do remember us trying to sign a defender for about £2.5m, agreeing personal terms, and then trying to go back and knock down the fee. The selling club then quite rightly told us to do one. Could all have been rumours of course. That was Maguire, and it was a decision taken above SC's head to start ******* about with the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 What people tend to forget about these deals are that the fees may have been agreed with the clubs but the player would still need to want to come to us and I couldn't see that with any of them to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: That was Maguire, and it was a decision taken above SC's head to start ******* about with the fee. That messing about with the price happens all the time and to most if not all clubs do this! It’s not unique to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 We were close to signing Hudson-Odoi on loan last summer, could be one to miss out on. If I remember under Millen we were linked with some names who became big players, can't remember who exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Big C said: What people tend to forget about these deals are that the fees may have been agreed with the clubs but the player would still need to want to come to us and I couldn't see that with any of them to be honest. The rumour is that Cotts had agreed fees and wages (for both Maguire and Gray) prior to going on holiday and Pelling then tried to a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Selred said: We were close to signing Hudson-Odoi on loan last summer, could be one to miss out on. If I remember under Millen we were linked with some names who became big players, can't remember who exactly. If he came here he would've turned into Jonathan Leko no doubt. We're good at taking players on loan but we don't seem to have too much success with wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Michael Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 These 'big name' players don't always work out. ...... Danny Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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