Redmycolour Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Could someone tell why, women are allowed to officiate mens football, but men are not allowed to officiate woman's, as stated on England match yesterday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Could someone tell why, women are allowed to officiate mens football, but men are not allowed to officiate woman's, as stated on England match yesterday, Because women are taking over the world isn’t it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezOfCity Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Because positive discrimination isn't real discrimination. You misogynist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, tezOfCity said: Because positive discrimination isn't real discrimination It definitely is discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Could someone tell why, women are allowed to officiate mens football, but men are not allowed to officiate woman's, as stated on England match yesterday, Good question.........surely it can’t be sexism, can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 It's part of a FIFA project to have all Women Referees and Assistants for this world cup. However https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/fwwc-selected-referees-2019.pdf You can see that many of the VAR officials are male. (Of course I am assuming their gender here! Apologies to Abdullah, Felix, Bastian, Paolo, Carlos and Danny if I'm incorrect based off of their names ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Could someone tell why, women are allowed to officiate mens football, but men are not allowed to officiate woman's, as stated on England match yesterday, It might have something to do with the low number of officials in the game? I can't think of any reason why someones gender would have any influence on whether they are good enough to officiate in either game, I would imagine the rule is in place to encourage more women to get into officiating. I am sure it looked like VAR room was full of men though? Everyone has mentioned the decision against Scotland but the one against Nigeria was appalling. (1.10 on this highlights reel https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48571323) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Prinny said: It's part of a FIFA project to have all Women Referees and Assistants for this world cup. However https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/fwwc-selected-referees-2019.pdf You can see that many of the VAR officials are male. That's because men think that an inch or two is massive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Perhaps some female officials don't feel comfortable officiating mens games, and so require a platform like this to access higher echelons of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Could someone tell why, women are allowed to officiate mens football, but men are not allowed to officiate woman's, as stated on England match yesterday, Men are allowed to officiate in women's football, and indeed regularly do. However, there are no male match officials for this World Cup (apart from VAR). Similarly, I don't believe there were any female match officials at last year's men's World Cup. Fail to see the issue here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: Men are allowed to officiate in women's football, and indeed regularly do. However, there are no male match officials for this World Cup (apart from VAR). Similarly, I don't believe there were any female match officials at last year's men's World Cup. Fail to see the issue here? The issue is fear that men will no longer have everything their way I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: Men are allowed to officiate in women's football, and indeed regularly do. However, there are no male match officials for this World Cup (apart from VAR). Similarly, I don't believe there were any female match officials at last year's men's World Cup. Fail to see the issue here? Surely if equality is the aim why aren’t male/female officials interchangeable in all international matches? Maybe FIFA haven’t progressed sufficiently far down the equality path yet......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Sexism: (actions based on) the belief that the members of one sex are less intelligent, able, skilful, etc. than the members of the other sex. so its unlikely that in this case you can ever claim sexism. The above statement can be applied to men but baring in mind that women couldn’t vote until 1920 ish and weren’t really considered capable of having a career until much later, it has a much bigger influence. It is about equality but first women amongst others need to be given as many opportunities as possible for that to turn into equality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: Sexism: (actions based on) the belief that the members of one sex are less intelligent, able, skilful, etc. than the members of the other sex. so its unlikely that in this case you can ever claim sexism. The above statement can be applied to men but baring in mind that women couldn’t vote until 1920 ish and weren’t really considered capable of having a career until much later, it has a much bigger influence. It is about equality but first women amongst others need to be given as many opportunities as possible for that to turn into equality. Superb post. A lot of people do not get it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I agree with equal opportunity, but equality of outcome is impossible and I'm totally against positive discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miser Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Have watched City Women. Generally female ref with 2 males running the lines. Probably not enough qualified women yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Because men are the devil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 OTIB learning chess: Teacher: ok, so here's how the pawn moves OTIB: alright Teacher: and the Knight OTIB: great, got it Teacher: and the king OTIB: cool, ok Teacher: and the Queen OTIB: sorry, the what? Teacher: the Queen OTIB: oh, um, right, it's just you know... Teacher: what? OTIB: no, no it's fine it just seems a bit like pandering to me, like, why a Queen? It's PC gone mad, I don't get it, just seems a bit obvious to me? But it's fine keep going Teacher: Erm, ok, well, anyway it's played between two teams, white goes at this end OTIB: I see Teacher: and at the end is black OTIB: ....... *Awkward shuffling* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Political correctness gone mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 We've had some women running the line during men's city matches, there were some nonsense remarks from members of the crowd but all in all they did as good a job as a man, and I hope to see more female officials next season. We haven't had a female ref yet have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, IAmNick said: OTIB learning chess: Teacher: ok, so here's how the pawn moves OTIB: alright Teacher: and the Knight OTIB: great, got it Teacher: and the king OTIB: cool, ok Teacher: and the Queen OTIB: sorry, the what? Teacher: the Queen OTIB: oh, um, right, it's just you know... Teacher: what? OTIB: no, no it's fine it just seems a bit like pandering to me, like, why a Queen? It's PC gone mad, I don't get it, just seems a bit obvious to me? But it's fine keep going Teacher: Erm, ok, well, anyway it's played between two teams, white goes at this end OTIB: I see Teacher: and at the end is black OTIB: ....... *Awkward shuffling* But white still goes first though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 hours ago, EmissionImpossible said: Sexism: (actions based on) the belief that the members of one sex are less intelligent, able, skilful, etc. than the members of the other sex. so its unlikely that in this case you can ever claim sexism. The above statement can be applied to men but baring in mind that women couldn’t vote until 1920 ish and weren’t really considered capable of having a career until much later, it has a much bigger influence. It is about equality but first women amongst others need to be given as many opportunities as possible for that to turn into equality. I think we need to put some meat on the bones the whole male/female voting story. Lets not forget that 40% of men of voting age, 5.2 million, that weren't wealthy enough, couldn't vote until 1918. As late as 1884 only 2 in 7 men were allowed to vote. I think wealth and privilege was as big a blocker back then, and it's an even bigger obstacle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lager loud Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: We've had some women running the line during men's city matches, there were some nonsense remarks from members of the crowd but all in all they did as good a job as a man, and I hope to see more female officials next season. We haven't had a female ref yet have we? We haven’t, I don’t think. But the French referee in the Women’s World Cup (who is refereeing one of the games today, I believe) has just been appointed as a Ligue 1 referee for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Oh dear, otib hits yet another low with barely disguised sexism and ignorance of the wider issues. Is this a particularly Bristol problem? From the perspective of London too many Bristolians seem stuck in something like 1955. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear, otib hits yet another low with barely disguised sexism and ignorance of the wider issues. Is this a particularly Bristol problem? From the perspective of London too many Bristolians seem stuck in something like 1955. I very much doubt it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear, otib hits yet another low with barely disguised sexism and ignorance of the wider issues. Is this a particularly Bristol problem? From the perspective of London too many Bristolians seem stuck in something like 1955. for christs sake ivor don't go on millwalls north stand banter then...….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Kingswood Robin said: I think we need to put some meat on the bones the whole male/female voting story. Lets not forget that 40% of men of voting age, 5.2 million, that weren't wealthy enough, couldn't vote until 1918. As late as 1884 only 2 in 7 men were allowed to vote. I think wealth and privilege was as big a blocker back then, and it's an even bigger obstacle now. Yes wealth and privilege are a huge obstacle now but when this first bill was passed, only women over 30 were allowed to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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