WhistleHappy Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Forest Green Rovers have been denied planning permission for their hoped for 'eco' stadium. (ps, the Gas don't even have a plan.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Good. There's absolutely nothing wrong with their current stadium. It's modern, perfect for their needs and at the heart of the community they've represented for over a century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Wooden stadium was a disaster waiting to happen, glad it’s been rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: Wooden stadium was a disaster waiting to happen, glad it’s been rejected It really wasn't, there are timber framed houses all over the place. If you are worried about fire hazards, you may want to avoid going to any stadiums that have electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: Wooden stadium was a disaster waiting to happen, glad it’s been rejected This what happens when the uneducated comment on a timber framed structure. 30 years ago maybe. Now definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: It really wasn't, there are timber framed houses all over the place. If you are worried about fire hazards, you may want to avoid going to any stadiums that have electricity. Or tents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: Wooden stadium was a disaster waiting to happen, glad it’s been rejected Not these days Monkeh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: It really wasn't, there are timber framed houses all over the place. If you are worried about fire hazards, you may want to avoid going to any stadiums that have electricity. Erm Bradford check your history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: This what happens when the uneducated comment on a timber framed structure. 30 years ago maybe. Now definitely not. 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not these days Monkeh. Based on what? I read an article only two days ago that a massive new wooden structure / balcony on the side of a block of flats caught fire and was totally destroyed. Wood doesn't burn any more? Humans don't make mistakes with their fire proofing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: This what happens when the uneducated comment on a timber framed structure. 30 years ago maybe. Now definitely not. Explain what happened to those hoses in London 3 days ago, modern wooden structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, reddogkev said: Based on what? I read an article only two days ago that a massive new wooden structure / balcony on the side of a block of flats caught fire and was totally destroyed. Wood doesn't burn any more? Humans don't make mistakes with their fire proofing? With the wooden design FGR would have to jump through numerous safety hoops to get planning permission. Now I don’t know the details on which grounds the PP was denied but I doubt the main reason was because of the wooden structure. Fire proofing technology these days is so advanced that I can’t imagine that fire risk would have been an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Wanderingred said: Good. There's absolutely nothing wrong with their current stadium. It's modern, perfect for their needs and at the heart of the community they've represented for over a century. It depends on how you view perfect. The site is not large enough to house what FGR intended with their proposed new project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: It really wasn't, there are timber framed houses all over the place. If you are worried about fire hazards, you may want to avoid going to any stadiums that have electricity. So is this why you support gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 They managed ok in Hungary, I think it looks stunning TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 @Ska Junkie That's amazing. A cross between the hull of a wooden ship and a medieval cathedral. Is that a mock-up of the FGR stadium that's just been rejected? Or something in Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yellow&Blue&Red said: @Ska Junkie That's amazing. A cross between the hull of a wooden ship and a medieval cathedral. Is that a mock-up of the FGR stadium that's just been rejected? Or something in Hungary. That's a real stadium in Hungary Y&B&R, the Pancho arena. Amazing isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: That's a real stadium in Hungary Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 If anyone thinks that stadium was going to be a fire risk just as it was made out of wood, i take it none of them would set foot in a new build house which is mainly wood then? It's like saying you wont drive cars as they were not as safe for drivers/passengers 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 13, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 hours ago, WhistleHappy said: Forest Green Rovers have been denied planning permission for their hoped for 'eco' stadium. (ps, the Gas don't even have a plan.) This title is worse click bait than the Bristol Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/football/forest-green-rovers-new-wooden-2972429 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Erm Bradford check your history. You mean if you allow people to smoke near masses of flammable debris underneath a poorly maintained stand there might be a fire risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, AshtonPark said: If anyone thinks that stadium was going to be a fire risk just as it was made out of wood, i take it none of them would set foot in a new build house which is mainly wood then? It's like saying you wont drive cars as they were not as safe for drivers/passengers 30 years ago. Not round here no, due to the fire safety scandal that’s currently effecting this area as well as Exeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: Explain what happened to those hoses in London 3 days ago, modern wooden structure Explain the numerous daily electrical fires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: Explain the numerous daily electrical fires. Dodgy electrical work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: Explain what happened to those hoses in London 3 days ago, modern wooden structure ....and Grenfell???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Redtucks said: ....and Grenfell???? That wasn't timber framed AFAIK RT, more to do with the dodgy cladding fitted to a concrete structure I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, wood_red said: Dodgy electrical work? In many cases yes, which is kind of my point, there are always other factors. Timber, apart from in forest fires, as far as I can tell, doesn't just spontaneously combust, it may well be flammable, but so are lots of things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 The problem with wooden framed structures remains that they do not compartmentalise as well as more traditional building methods, and lose their integrity quicker. It's not more likely to catch fire as you'd need a smaller fire to create the required heat for the wooden structure to pyrolyse. Bradford obviously had a huge amount of fuel loading under the stand comprising of small, highly flammable objects that created the required heat to set the stand alight. As there is not going to be a big pile of kindling under the stand, it would take something special for the stadium to catch fire. 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: Explain what happened to those hoses in London 3 days ago, modern wooden structure As with grenfell and other flat fires, the issue was not the structure itself, but the wooden balconies that allow the fire to spread in the oxygen rich, wind driven conditions of 'outside the building'. If you make the outside of your building flammable, fire will spread fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: That wasn't timber framed AFAIK RT, more to do with the dodgy cladding fitted to a concrete structure I think. To go slightly off track, there were a whole host of other issues apart from the cladding. My work often brings me into contact with the fire industry, I am far from being an expert, but what I have learnt, is that there is often a combination of events rather than one single situation or material to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Fantastic club. Standard council response.REJECTED. it will get there bit of alterations .the refusal reasons are very weak. And its 2019 anyone who has commented its wooden so it will be a disaster is a plonker. Its not the same era as the bradford ground disaster. Great chairman, id be proud to have that stadium in my town. Most eco in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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