Chairman Mao Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Disappointing if he doesn't go for £20-25m. Frankly that's obscene money and as brilliant as Webster is he's not worth that. On the plus side, Webster is brilliant and we get to keep him! I kinda view this as a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: Disappointing if he doesn't go for £20-25m. Frankly that's obscene money and as brilliant as Webster is he's not worth that. On the plus side, Webster is brilliant and we get to keep him! I kinda view this as a win win. Was listening to Talksport the other day, discussing Zaha's transfer and whether he is worth the £80m or so that Palace is asking. One of the presenters made the point that selling Zaha could well lead to relegation. If so the cost of relegation would be in the region of £100m, so Palace will be looking to cover as much of that cost as possible and his value reflects more his value to Palace, if he leaves, rather than his value to the buying club. I think there is a similar factor at play with Webster. His partnership with Kalas could well be the difference between promotion and just falling short ( I know that many will argue a striker is the difference) and as we don't have to or want to see him leave, if he were to go then we would want to maximise his value in case it has to compensate for not gaining promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, chinapig said: He was there but didn't play. You'd think the Post would have asked why, but perhaps they were told to steer clear. You get stuck in traffic CP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 03/07/2019 at 11:42, JonDolman said: Tomori would cost half that. Maybe, but what about the day after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: You get stuck in traffic CP? No but what remains of my brain did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 If he was anywhere near a move out then no way he would have been allowed to play yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 58 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: If he was anywhere near a move out then no way he would have been allowed to play yesterday. And he probably wouldn't have been so committed in his challenges either. I agree, the fact he played yesterday is an indication that he may not be on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 I’m not convinced he’ll go but I also wouldn’t read too much into yesterday. It was a 30 minute run out in a Community game where the opposition wasn’t going to kick us around. Let’s see if he’s at Wimbledon tomorrow, in which case he’ll be on the plane for Florida at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just been reported on couple sites that Bournemouth have accepted offer of 20mil for Mings from Villa - not sure if this would effect any potential new bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Villa won't spend another 20-25 mil on a centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, Ron Swanson said: Villa won't spend another 20-25 mil on a centre back. I wouldn't be so sure. Financial responsibility isn't exactly their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: Disappointing if he doesn't go for £20-25m. Frankly that's obscene money and as brilliant as Webster is he's not worth that. On the plus side, Webster is brilliant and we get to keep him! I kinda view this as a win win. He is worth that. Look at other transfer fees. Those make him worth it. Do fans have an inferiority complex when it comes to our club and players? 7 minutes ago, Ron Swanson said: Villa won't spend another 20-25 mil on a centre back. They have wanted Webster for a while and were always going to sign Mings so wouldn’t be so sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Ipswich are going to be getting some serious cash if both these deals go through for £20m apiece (assuming they have 20% sell-ons). Around £2.4m on Mings (they sold him for £8m to Bournemouth) and around £3 - £3.5m+ on AW. There might even be some much-needed cash heading Chippenham`s way too if they have anything due for Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Think we should rack up the price to £40m now for Villa, they're clearly desperate and panicking if they're buying the likes of Mings for £20m.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, RedDave said: He is worth that. Look at other transfer fees. Those make him worth it. Do fans have an inferiority complex when it comes to our club and players? They have wanted Webster for a while and were always going to sign Mings so wouldn’t be so sure Partly that and partly because they think there is some objective measure of a player's value. A player is not 'worth' what any particular fan thinks he is, the market and the strength of a club's negotiating position will determine the price. We are in a strong position. Add in Mark Ashton's record and Villa's tendency to splash the cash and it looks even stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 04/07/2019 at 12:22, Porto Red said: Fantastic news if true, and credit to Ashton et al for standing firm in the face of outrageous temptation. We know Webster is prem quality, now let's make some equivalent signings in midfield and attack. Credit to ashton?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ron Swanson said: Villa won't spend another 20-25 mil on a centre back. Agree. They cannot afford to spend another 20 mill on Webster. Think he'll stay now as I can only see Brighton meeting our valuation if Dunk goes and I can't see Webster going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said: Credit to ashton?? Who do you think does the negotiating? Who got more for the likes of Bryan and Reid than many, if not most, fans were predicting? Or do you think he should have caved in at £12m, as Villa fans did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Agree. They cannot afford to spend another 20 mill on Webster. Think he'll stay now as I can only see Brighton meeting our valuation if Dunk goes and I can't see Webster going there. Recent history suggests Villa are not bothered about affordability. I wouldn't be surprised if they did a Fulham and spent £100m in one window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 They are after Cahill too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 All I can say is piss off Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 03/07/2019 at 11:42, JonDolman said: Tomori would cost half that. Or Ajayi a quarter. Not many, but some quality options to replace him imo. Some decent options out there, but I'd forget your first one, everyone knows Tomori never comes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, WhistleHappy said: Some decent options out there, but I'd forget your first one, everyone knows Tomori never comes.. Have you met his mrs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Davefevs said: They are after Cahill too. More like it for them. Get him on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: They are after Cahill too. Not a footballing defender like Webster but his experience would be invaluable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 I will get laughed off for this but hear me out. Why do premier league clubs have a queue like system? Maguire from champ to prem with Hull the Hull to Leicester then to Man U/City maybe. Why not Hull to Man U? Worked out for Liverpool and Robertson. Why wouldn’t Man U be interested in Webster for 20m? Surely better value than 90m for Maguire? Better than Dunk and Tarkowski for 40m? Ok maybe the Maguire one you understand as now well established in England squad but the others? Sure a massive step up but I am sure none of us would be surprised if Webster settled quickly into the prem to be a good ball playing defender. I’d even argue it be less of a gamble for a better side like Leicester or Everton as they can dominate most teams in the league for spells. Just a discussion piece anyway on why transfers tend to move this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Looks like Mings is joining Vila, end of interest in Webster ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 I might be alone here but I actually don't think he's quite ready for the Premier league. I love his confidence on the ball but he runs in to trouble sometimes too. The margin for error is so small up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davefevs Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, mozo said: I might be alone here but I actually don't think he's quite ready for the Premier league. I love his confidence on the ball but he runs in to trouble sometimes too. The margin for error is so small up there. I think that’s a “not enough options” issue. The movement around him is almost as if he’s Pele in Escape to Victory and gonna do it all himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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