Elruliri Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Elruliri said: The best ones we've done are Carl shutt for super Bob and Steve McClaren for Garry Shelton, brilliant bit of business that. Although we did pay about £200k for bob with shutt going the other way. Still a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 the gary shelton deal was fantastic. what a player he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Spot on BW. Especially the difference between formal offer / bid and enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, billywedlock said: Well the Kodja experience told us not to believe a damn word the club says. As for people posting what they hear, I doubt anything will come from the club itself, only a small group know about the detail of bids, and sometimes LJ will not even be sure of the amounts involved in buying , at least during negotiations. As for incoming offers, that is different and the net has many holes, often from the club wanting to buy and/or agent. Wanting to leak info to media etc. to destabilise things . A lot of info comes via agents, and that is where I have over the years had lots of background (business involvement). It is not correct to post on here the info you get as it compromises everyone and risks, worst of all, a City deal , which you never want, but also these things should remain restricted . Also the number of enquiries is vast, but that does not mean a deal has been proposed, MA for example will be talking all the time to other clubs , exploring opportunities. But after the transfer event, it is quite fun to read about wages and fees that are often invented on forums, some so far off the mark it is hilarious , but a few, without doubt are spot on. But the hit rate is very low, as few would know the variables involved in a deal, be it a fee structure or contract structure. They are all very complex today. Prem wages though lead to a lot of overstated Championship wage claims even if the tendency is upward. As for Webster, I do not believe the player and agent would easily accept that city turned down a "£20m deal" that would allow him a Prem move. Even offering an improved contract does not compensate a player for not being able to play at the top teams/grounds and a chance to grow also at the highest level. The footballer career is short, and can end rapidly. No one will turn down that chance, no matter how romantic a notion it is that a player would like to battle it out for a top ten/playoff chance with City. It is unrealistic. If City are offered £15M plus a striker of quality (for our needs) then it would be a very hard deal to reject and explain to Webster IMHO I am sure they have explained to Webster that they will sell him at the end of the season if they don't go up, unless a club matches their valuation now. He has a long contract here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 hours ago, billywedlock said: Well the Kodja experience told us not to believe a damn word the club says. As for people posting what they hear, I doubt anything will come from the club itself, only a small group know about the detail of bids, and sometimes LJ will not even be sure of the amounts involved in buying , at least during negotiations. As for incoming offers, that is different and the net has many holes, often from the club wanting to buy and/or agent. Wanting to leak info to media etc. to destabilise things . A lot of info comes via agents, and that is where I have over the years had lots of background (business involvement). It is not correct to post on here the info you get as it compromises everyone and risks, worst of all, a City deal , which you never want, but also these things should remain restricted . Also the number of enquiries is vast, but that does not mean a deal has been proposed, MA for example will be talking all the time to other clubs , exploring opportunities. But after the transfer event, it is quite fun to read about wages and fees that are often invented on forums, some so far off the mark it is hilarious , but a few, without doubt are spot on. But the hit rate is very low, as few would know the variables involved in a deal, be it a fee structure or contract structure. They are all very complex today. Prem wages though lead to a lot of overstated Championship wage claims even if the tendency is upward. As for Webster, I do not believe the player and agent would easily accept that city turned down a "£20m deal" that would allow him a Prem move. Even offering an improved contract does not compensate a player for not being able to play at the top teams/grounds and a chance to grow also at the highest level. The footballer career is short, and can end rapidly. No one will turn down that chance, no matter how romantic a notion it is that a player would like to battle it out for a top ten/playoff chance with City. It is unrealistic. If City are offered £15M plus a striker of quality (for our needs) then it would be a very hard deal to reject and explain to Webster IMHO You don’t know Webster’s opinion so that is pure conjecture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Can’t see any truth in this latest rumour imo, someone showed me the text from the bloke who’s to be fair been spot on in the past, but £15m really? Not a chance unless there’s more to add etc, also I don’t think it’ll be that difficult to remove a magnetic name plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, billywedlock said: It is pure conjecture that I do not know what he thinks. It is the dream of any pro player to play at the highest level. Webster would not turn down a move to the Prem. Ask him. You saying you know Adam Webster and have asked him? If you are saying that, I don’t believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 11:30, Fat Cigar said: Was reported. The Post and I think by BBC Bristol. So just conjecture - The Post is a miserable source for any sort of accurate info ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 08:36, Davefevs said: Are you suggesting it all ends a bit too quickly these days? I’ve heard that before - blamed it on the Stella ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 10:28, Rudolf Hucker said: I can put it away faster than you can learn to write English. .....yet you call others pedantic If I’d known the post of OTIB Editor was up for grabs I’d have been first in the queue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 19:46, Gary Nanes said: @Kid in the Riot reassure us it’s bollocks He’s obviously got connections, but he doesn’t know everything ... eg, he knew nothing of Bobby Reid being on his way back to us before that tragic plane crash ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, billywedlock said: It is pure conjecture that I do not know what he thinks. It is the dream of any pro player to play at the highest level. Webster would not turn down a move to the Prem. Ask him. He more than likely would like a move to the Prem, but may not fancy a move to Villa? Wouldn’t blame him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: .....yet you call others pedantic Not others. Just you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Not others. Just you. And you apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Just to be clear ...... what’s going on with Webster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 20:21, Davefevs said: Whilst mentioning Hector, if we’re gonna have Dasilva, Kalas and Hector, don’t we just need a Chelsea RB too....Dujon Sterling anyone? I’ve heard he’s Mustard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 18 hours ago, JonDolman said: I am sure they have explained to Webster that they will sell him at the end of the season if they don't go up, unless a club matches their valuation now. He has a long contract here Or even January. Assuming we don't get promoted and Webster stays fit and plays well (fairly big if's!) then he'll be off within 12 months no matter what. Just be nice to see him as much as possible in a City shirt before the inevitable happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Or even January. Assuming we don't get promoted and Webster stays fit and plays well (fairly big if's!) then he'll be off within 12 months no matter what. Just be nice to see him as much as possible in a City shirt before the inevitable happens... One of a very small number of players that we'll look back on in a few years and wonder how we got him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Or even January. Assuming we don't get promoted and Webster stays fit and plays well (fairly big if's!) then he'll be off within 12 months no matter what. Unless we get promoted (absolutely HUGE unless!)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I am almost certainly in a minority, but I'd have cashed in if Villa really did make a £17m up front with £5m in add-ons bid, and bought Semi Ayaji who has now gone to WBA for a bargain £1.5m. Time will tell whether Ashton/LJ did the right thing by holding out for more or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, old_eastender said: I am almost certainly in a minority, but I'd have cashed in if Villa really did make a £17m up front with £5m in add-ons bid, and bought Semi Ayaji who has now gone to WBA for a bargain £1.5m. Time will tell whether Ashton/LJ did the right thing by holding out for more or not... Webster is a serious asset and the £30m price tag was put on him to ‘hopefully’ put prospective buyers off. LJ has said that he wants to build a team around Webster and, like most of us can see what a terrific player he is so why would the club accept anything less than the full £30m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Surely he gets a new contract and the captaincy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, mozo said: Surely he gets a new contract and the captaincy?! Why? Just because he’s our best player that doesn’t make him a leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Why? Just because he’s our best player that doesn’t make him a leader No but LJ has commented publicly about Webster being a big influence in the dressing room. I presume he meant leadership... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, mozo said: No but LJ has commented publicly about Webster being a big influence in the dressing room. I presume he meant leadership... Fair enough haven’t seen that. LJ believes that bailey Wright is our only natural leader currently so can’t see him losing the captaincy yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 hours ago, old_eastender said: I am almost certainly in a minority, but I'd have cashed in if Villa really did make a £17m up front with £5m in add-ons bid, and bought Semi Ayaji who has now gone to WBA for a bargain £1.5m. Time will tell whether Ashton/LJ did the right thing by holding out for more or not... But by keeping him and building around him, we could and I repeat, could hit a jackpot at the end of the season, much bigger than £5million or so? To sell now would be like AD and Dolman selling Ritchie amd Merrick to Arsenal before we went up in 1976. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Fair enough haven’t seen that. LJ believes that bailey Wright is our only natural leader currently so can’t see him losing the captaincy yet He loves Pack too. To be fair Pack came over as a keen bean on a couple of those USA videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 7 hours ago, JBFC II said: Fair enough haven’t seen that. LJ believes that bailey Wright is our only natural leader currently so can’t see him losing the captaincy yet 6 hours ago, mozo said: He loves Pack too. To be fair Pack came over as a keen bean on a couple of those USA videos Assuming Marlon is still a very key player for LJ, then he should be captain. You’re right, he was certainly looking the part in Florida. Wright is also in an unknown position, i.e. we exercised his option, so potential lack of commitment on either / both sides to nail down a longer contract. He’s not a regular starter either, so for me Marlon should be captain. Webster perhaps vice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 That £30 million price tag just needs a bad season to turn to £5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, TheCulturalBomb said: That £30 million price tag just needs a bad season to turn to £5 million. Or a promotion season to turn it into 50 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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