Mr Popodopolous Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Umtiti at half the price if papers to be believed- £46m to £90m Maguire. Could this weaken the chain? Also read online somewhere that Dunk could stay despite Webster move- back 3 one possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben4BCFC Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, swanker said: What, you’d knuckle down and concentrate on playing for your club! Fair play to you because if somebody was willing to double or triple my wages I’d snatch their hands off, like everyone else would Fair play to Webster, he’s got the opportunity to live the dream and we’re doing alright out of it as well. A lot of people, and I don't just mean AshtonGreat so this is by no means a dig, find it very difficult to separate how us as fans feel and how players feel. Ultimately, if you were offered 3x your wages (in Bobby Reid's case, 4x for example), plus a massive signing on lump sum bonus, and effectively a promotion (working at a more respected company with better opportunities), 99% of people wouldn't think twice. They may see if their current employer could match, or at least compete with, it; but not much more than that. Unfortunately, fans seem to think that there should be some kind of inherent loyalty in sport because it is people's passion. Even if it isn't for the club they support, there's this inbuilt belief that players should respect supporters of a club. You don't see Tesco employees refusing to move because their customers don't shop at Sainsbury's, or graphic designers not moving to a different company because people they design for don't products buy at their new place. It's a career - he gets a massive step forward in his life, and the club benefit from it massively. Win win. Fair play to the bloke; go on and get yourself in that England squad Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Knuckle down and get ready for the new season at the club I've signed a contract to. **** me, he's only given us one season. If he's as good as everyone says he is, the interest from the Premier League won't go away, so he should've given us one more season at least. As for City, 'It's good business', blah de blah. Well not really, as what's the point having the money if you're never able to build a team (because players keep buggering off the moment a Premier League club comes sniffing). Aren't we wonderful as supporters. We expect players to honour their contracts but at the same time reserve the right to urge the club the tell a player to **** off if we don't like him. I don't blame players for wanting to move to better themselves or their family, and by the same token don't blame them if they want to dig in their heels and stay when a club wants rid. In such cases isn't the club not honouring it's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: Not as much as the selling club. Something doesn’t add up here. If he was 100% off with the clubs best wishes then he wouldn’t be training at all. Does appear strange. Maybe its not as close to being done as Brighton have suggested or maybe MA is holding out for the £30m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 One thing that few people have suggested is whether Taylor Moore could take over at CB. He's not been offered a fair opportunity yet, and while he'll definitely be no replacement for Webster, I wonder whether giving Kalas the reins to lead the defensive line and to work with Moore would be a good idea? This would give us £20m+ to play with - more than enough to buy that goalscoring forward that many feel is the missing link. Maybe even bring that lad from Arsenal in on a loan-to-buy option, depending on how we both do this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, EnderMB said: One thing that few people have suggested is whether Taylor Moore could take over at CB. He's not been offered a fair opportunity yet, and while he'll definitely be no replacement for Webster, I wonder whether giving Kalas the reins to lead the defensive line and to work with Moore would be a good idea? This would give us £20m+ to play with - more than enough to buy that goalscoring forward that many feel is the missing link. Maybe even bring that lad from Arsenal in on a loan-to-buy option, depending on how we both do this season. As well as Taylor Moore we have Baker, Bailey Wright and Zak Vyner who can play in that position so not as if we've not got any cover As for those saying Webster should be more loyal it's the cub's strategy to sell a player if an enormous offer comes in as it's the only way we can generate any profits to fund other purchases so I'm sure it's the club's decision to allow the transfer as much as the player's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ben4BCFC said: A lot of people, and I don't just mean AshtonGreat so this is by no means a dig, find it very difficult to separate how us as fans feel and how players feel. Ultimately, if you were offered 3x your wages (in Bobby Reid's case, 4x for example), plus a massive signing on lump sum bonus, and effectively a promotion (working at a more respected company with better opportunities), 99% of people wouldn't think twice. They may see if their current employer could match, or at least compete with, it; but not much more than that. Unfortunately, fans seem to think that there should be some kind of inherent loyalty in sport because it is people's passion. Even if it isn't for the club they support, there's this inbuilt belief that players should respect supporters of a club. You don't see Tesco employees refusing to move because their customers don't shop at Sainsbury's, or graphic designers not moving to a different company because people they design for don't products buy at their new place. It's a career - he gets a massive step forward in his life, and the club benefit from it massively. Win win. Fair play to the bloke; go on and get yourself in that England squad Webster. I think the other thing people forget sometimes is the lack of loyalty in football is a two-way street. If Webster stayed out of loyalty but then - and I mean this hypothetically, not because I am predicting it would happen - Taylor Moore suddenly started playing amazingly well and suddenly looked like a better option at centre-back, I wouldn't want the club to stick with Webster out of loyalty. I'd want them to play the player who is on form. And, if we got an option to sign a better defender than Webster, then I'd not care about loyalty. I'd want us to sign the better defender and flog Webster if needed. I didn't expect the club to show loyalty to Eisa or Engvall. I don't even want us to be loyal to Lee Johnson if we lose the first ten games of the season. Ultimately football players know they are only valued by a club as long as the club can't get someone better in. So why should they be loyal? I totally agree with your last paragraph. I hope he is a massive hit at Brighton and, in a couple of years, is in the England squad and getting linked with top six sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Umtiti at half the price if papers to be believed- £46m to £90m Maguire. Could this weaken the chain? Also read online somewhere that Dunk could stay despite Webster move- back 3 one possibility. I'm not convinced the Webster move is reliant solely on the chain. I think Potter saw him as the best in the Championship and suited to the way he wants to play.Plus Brighton say they have had no enquiries about Dunk anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Does appear strange. Maybe its not as close to being done as Brighton have suggested or maybe MA is holding out for the £30m. “Adam, here’s yesterday’s training kit. Scotty hasn’t got around to washing it yet. Stick it on and pose for a couple of pics with the lads when they’ve finished training, meanwhile go and rest your legs for a couple of hours on Steve’s Chaise Longue. The club’s makeup artist will drop by to put some rouge on your cheeks and wet-look gel in your hair. Help yourself to Steve’s caviar.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: It looks like a photo taken in the seventies. The temperature certainly looks hot there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, James54De said: I seriously doubt whether any of our players have release clauses. Englebert Websterdick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: As well as Taylor Moore we have Baker, Bailey Wright and Zak Vyner who can play in that position so not as if we've not got any cover Anyone who plays on the LHS of defence has to be able to tackle instinctively with their left foot. To my knowledge none of these guys can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitchurch1966 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Anyone who plays on the LHS of defence has to be able to tackle instinctively with their left foot. To my knowledge none of these guys can. We all saw that when Bailey Wright was out there, he was always getting stuck on the touchline with the ball at his feet having to go back to the keeper because he couldn't get the ball down the touchline with his left foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Anyone who plays on the LHS of defence has to be able to tackle instinctively with their left foot. To my knowledge none of these guys can. I'm not sure that Taylor Moore isn't two footed. I'm sure he played as the left side centre back in an early league Cup game a couple of seasons back, the thrashing of Plymouth Argyle I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitchurch1966 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'm not sure that Taylor Moore isn't two footed. I'm sure he played as the left side centre back in an early league Cup game a couple of seasons back, the thrashing of Plymouth Argyle I think. Thought he looked ok when he came on against Palace, made a couple of Wesbster type darts forward with the ball, looked comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'm not sure that Taylor Moore isn't two footed. I'm sure he played as the left side centre back in an early league Cup game a couple of seasons back, the thrashing of Plymouth Argyle I think. If so then I’ll stand corrected. I’ll finally be able to throw away my orthotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Anyone who plays on the LHS of defence has to be able to tackle instinctively with their left foot. To my knowledge none of these guys can. I mentioned about Vyner, Moore and Wright yesterday all being uncomfortable on the left hand side. Baker would obviously be comfortable there but I was led to believe he was on the way out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: I mentioned about Vyner, Moore and Wright yesterday all being uncomfortable on the left hand side. Baker would obviously be comfortable there but I was led to believe he was on the way out.. Blimey , realised he was injury prone but ......blimey ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Post just ran a story that says most City fans wouldn't sell for £25M, and then print 10 twitter comments where 6 would take the money and 4 said we should keep. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Anyone who plays on the LHS of defence has to be able to tackle instinctively with their left foot. To my knowledge none of these guys can. Here speaks a man who knows about a tackle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 42 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Post just ran a story that says most City fans wouldn't sell for £25M, and then print 10 twitter comments where 6 would take the money and 4 said we should keep. Go figure. We must have more than 10 fans, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 35 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Here speaks a man who knows about tackle . Fixed it for you Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Do we have any information other than a story on the BBC website that could have been generated by Brighton or Webster's agent? If the BBC accuracy on a match day is anything to go by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Sky are saying if Maguire leaves , Leicester apparently won’t replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Ipswich fans adamant their sell on is under 10%, hope so https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/462891/webster-sell-on-clause./#6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Soooooo this has gone awkward and he might be staying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STeveOELlis Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Brighton not in “active negotiations” with anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Brian_owen he covers Brighton on twitter I've been told #bhafc not in "active negotiations" for anyone right now but obviously there are reports in Spain they have bid for striker En Nesiry. The word from Madrid is that Leganes want to sell and a deal will be done. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said: Fixed it for you Major. Your that person who explains every joke aren’t you ? You make me think of Family Guy’s Cleveland, ‘ it’s funny cause it’s true ‘. I will count on you from now on to be my official interpreter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Brian_owen he covers Brighton on twitter I've been told #bhafc not in "active negotiations" for anyone right now but obviously there are reports in Spain they have bid for striker En Nesiry. The word from Madrid is that Leganes want to sell and a deal will be done. We'll see. So I guess if Maguire isn't happening then Dunk isn't happening which means Webster isn't happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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