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Red Army 75

Adam Webster - Update - Sold to Brighton

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1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said:

You have to feel for LJ. Last season he lost 3 of his best players. Did a brilliant job signing Webster and loses him a day before the season starts.

It's all very well having money to spend. We got it right with Webster but there are no guarantees that we can keep doing so. Puts a lot of pressure on LJ to roll the dice again and come up with another hit.

We've signed a few duds and some gems. Just hope we get it right this time.

Like every other manager in our league , some with less resources got their clubs promoted last season. Not saying it is easy, but no sob story needed. 

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Are people actually trying to say we are stronger than last year?? 

The mind boggles...

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3 hours ago, Red Exile said:

or indeed this:

can't beat that really! Good luck to him.

How classy is that? There's a few out there that could learn from that. 

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50 minutes ago, Lucan said:

Are people actually trying to say we are stronger than last year?? 

The mind boggles...

Not a single person has said that.

However, the transfer window wasn't closed last time I checked, and we have quite a transfer kitty to play with.

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4 hours ago, Boston Red said:

It's a pity we could not have sold Webster at the start of the transfer window and then kept Lloyd Kelly to be his replacement.

No thanks...  I'll keep the £12mil cheers!

Even better business than Webby's fee.

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2 hours ago, Xiled said:

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That'll do nicely!

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I'd be grinning like that for years if I were in that position. It must feel like a lottery win as he's probably now an instant millionaire.

Mad world.

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I’m sad to see him go, but can’t begrudge him the move and at least we’ve received a hefty fee for him. 

Good luck Adam and thanks for last season. 

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4 hours ago, Lucan said:

Are people actually trying to say we are stronger than last year?? 

The mind boggles...

Where has anyone said that?

Man-for-man, our likely starting 11 has gained Szmodics and Bentley but lost Webster. You might say that’s a net zero gain (or worse). But, we have money to play with and the transfer window is still open.

The other thing I would add is that signing the 3 Chelsea players permanently gives us a big advantage in the longer term compared with last season; they’re ours now. If they leave it’ll be on our terms, when we decide, and probably for money. We don’t have the worry of how we replace the loans at the end of the season. This might not be our season, but we are building the foundations of a squad that can compete at the top end of the division beyond the next 12 months, and we are reducing our reliance on loans. It’s a subtle but important step.

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A shame we lost him but a good deal financially.

We have known about this for a long time so presumably we have a replacement lined up.

Hopefully this also unlocks a striker.

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At the beginning of the summer we were looking likely to lose Webster and Kelly, and with Kalas and Dasilva returning to Chelsea  we were on the verge of losing 3/4 of our back 4.

Webster is an exceptional talent ( Ive said before, the best Ive seen since Gary Collier) but long term keeping Kalas and Dasilva could be more important. especially allied to the signings of Szmodics and Palmer, all of which could only have happened with Kelly's sale.

If, as we all hope the club does pay out big money to bring in a good striker ( that so many have been crying out for and say that we desperately need) then that purchase will only happen because of the fee received for Webster.

If such a striker does deliver the goods, then I would argue that affording him is more important than keeping Webster would have been.

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8 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

Can't spend money you don't have on players you might not need if a transaction isn't completed.

So whilst the timing isn't great, you can hardly ask the other clubs to get their bids in early, just so we have a chance of signing a replacement.

Exactly, and there are a whole host of clubs who’d give their right arm to sell one of their players for a tidy sum to launch their recruitment drive.  It’s why it’s been fairly static fees-wise.

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5 hours ago, Xiled said:

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I swear he never looked this happy at any point with us.

#newrelationship

Born an hour from Brighton, fan growing up? 

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5 hours ago, Lucan said:

Are people actually trying to say we are stronger than last year?? 

The mind boggles...

I guess you probably said the same a year ago when Flint left!

:dunno:

 

 

 

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If the club HADN'T sold Webster for the fee we've secured I'd have been pissed off. Great player but with those we've secured already we are stronger overall;  another year together and the lads who almost got us into the Top 6 may well do so this time around. If we've another 1 or 2 lined up before the end of the transfer window things might just end up better than this.

Have a bit of optimism lads. All targets will have been lined up, the cards will now hopefully fall into place. I also happen to feel that the acquisitions of Palmer, Szmodics & Rowe are being undervalued by some.

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This has always felt like a chain of centre back sales: Maguire to Man United, Dunk to Leicester, Webster to Brighton. The question is do we really need another centre back? Probably not given we have 5 players who feel that is their best position already with club. What we need is a striker, plus midfielder and a right back, but that probably hasn't changed since day 1 of the transfer window. The difference now is that the club can't claim that it doesn't have the money to spend.

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Shame he’s gone but until we’re elevated ourselves to the level the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth have, and have the financial firepower to resist fees like we just received, then we will struggle to retain our grade a talent.

It should be noted as a positive that we are now constantly developing both our own players and those we bring in to a level where clubs currently higher up the ‘food chain’ snap them up for big money; both helps the club materially but also in terms of presenting us in a good light to potential recruits.

I will admit to being a little confused over the make up of the squad this year, as have a glut of what are described as ‘attaching midfielders’ while being what could be seen as light up top.

But we were missing Fam for the start of last season, with Taylor having fitness issues, if I recall correctly, so perhaps we’re hoping that the that pair plus Weimann supported by a bunch of creative players will be enough firepower.

Leeds will be a tough early test but almost glad we have that to open with Sky watching on, as if we are going to progress these are the type of match ups we should have the squad relishing.

Hopeful we can continue to progress this season, but that would suggest a genuine shot at playoff football, so preparing for some ups and downs...

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On 21/06/2019 at 19:58, RED4LIFE said:

As much as it pains me to say it, I've heard a deal has been agreed with an un-named Prem team for £20m. 

I have heard this from someone who has given me very good info in the past and I know the people at the club he has links with. 

I really hope it isn't true but knowing who this guy knows, I'm kind of thinking it has some legs. 

Time will tell I suppose but thinking rationally there is no way we can turn down that sort of money.

Ahem, if Kid In The Riot can bring up historical posts to prove he was correct, then surely I can too?

Besides, I got kinda nailed for this at the time so feels like a little bit of justification.

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Interesting to note that Webster didn't get off the bench Saturday- HOWEVER his move was late in the window like a few of their signings, plus Dan Burn played very well by all accounts and surely has been good in pre season so kept his place- back 3 was Duffy-Dunk-Burn. I'm sure he and a number of other Brighton signings will be eased in- hard to get in a team who got a result like they got Saturday though. Burn in fact MOTM apparently, or at least according to varied social media based Brighton fans.

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On 04/08/2019 at 22:23, RED4LIFE said:

Ahem, if Kid In The Riot can bring up historical posts to prove he was correct, then surely I can too?

Besides, I got kinda nailed for this at the time so feels like a little bit of justification.

We can all do that (May 21)! Shame he’s gone though.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

Sadly for him, the first time he`ll get a game will be at the swamp in the League Cup so he can look forward to his first outing being greeted by ninety minutes of `shitheeeeead` being screamed at him.

And whilst doing so they can gaze at him ..........and consider the fact that he’s worth more than their entire Club 

Bricks , mortar, players..........the whole job lot

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9 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

And whilst doing so they can gaze at him ..........and consider the fact that he’s worth more than their entire Club 

Bricks , mortar, players..........the whole job lot

🤣

Does that include the mysterious London office and Wally's nice watch?

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4 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Does that include the mysterious London office and Wally's nice watch?

Ahhhhhh

No China

They are merely listed as ‘owners perks’ I’m afraid 

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I was at the Brighton match yesterday, hoping to see him get some time.. Dan Burn surprised me out of the back three, I said to friends at the match, as soon as he gets a nod, he won't get dropped. Shane Duffy, as good as he is as a defender doesn't fit into what Potter is doing, give it a couple of weeks and he will be starting..

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Didn't get off the bench again I see.

Still REALLY early days of course but he is so far their only summer signing (don't include possibles for the academy or development) to get no game time thusfar.

I didn't think he looked in great shape vs Forest Green when I watched him . 

Certainly not fit enough for the Prem 

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8 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

I didn't think he looked in great shape vs Forest Green when I watched him . 

Certainly not fit enough for the Prem 

He probably already knew he was going at that point so more than likely trying to stay injury free.

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Its probably going to be a little like the season Flint stayed here for him. If i remember Flint almost left but we'd already signed Wright and Baker to replace him, after a spell on the bench he ended up back in the team for the season with Wright only getting game time at right-back due to injury. Only difference is Dunk is in the team from the start and Webster now finds his place blocked by the bloke he was supposed to replace.

 

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