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The hand of RO'D

SIGNED: Kasey Palmer ( 4 years, Undisclosed fee)

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29 minutes ago, paul_fox said:

Do you reckon he asked for the photo shoot up on the roof? 

No - this is the photo shoot he asked for.

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7 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I’m pretty sure LJ is fully aware of what SL expects and is working within that framework. No one is going to come in that SL doesn't want in. 

Don't doubt it, SL's ideal squad set up may have changed.

Or he may be strongly recommending that LJ's job may be less complex, with a more contented squad, if he moves a few on in the next week.

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19 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

all i can say to this is **** off Warner & Bancroft  you cheating bastards ;) 

Amended for you 

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5 minutes ago, downendcity said:

No - this is the photo shoot he asked for.

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He’s aged a bit!

I’m sure it was the song that clinched the deal, where will he ever go to get a song like that again. I can just picture the signing, things are a bit tense in the negotiations and Mark Ashton starts humming before he bursts into song! 😀

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5 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Don't doubt it, SL's ideal squad set up may have changed.

Or he may be strongly recommending that LJ's job may be less complex, with a more contented squad, if he moves a few on in the next week.

I think also pure numbers only tell half the story. Prime example being Gilmartin. He may never play a game for us. He’s cheap emergency cover brought in to allow our own asset with big potential to go out on loan and develop much faster than he would bring 2nd/3rd choice here. 

There’s also several who we are classing as ‘first team’ who are probably a year or two away from being able to seriously contend to be in the first team proper, so I do think just looking at the actual headcount is a bit misleading. 

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If we haven't tried bidding for Kevin Oghenetega Tamaraebi Bakumo-Abraham in the hope that they don't realise until it's too late I will be very, very disappointed!!
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49 minutes ago, Luxo Jr. said:

 

Boom.

Flipping heck, the hair the hair, I nearly shat myself thinking we'd signed Lois Diony.

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5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I think also pure numbers only tell half the story. Prime example being Gilmartin. He may never play a game for us. He’s cheap emergency cover brought in to allow our own asset with big potential to go out on loan and develop much faster than he would bring 2nd/3rd choice here. 

There’s also several who we are classing as ‘first team’ who are probably a year or two away from being able to seriously contend to be in the first team proper, so I do think just looking at the actual headcount is a bit misleading. 

Fair points, but even then do you not look at our squad and feel some are now surplus to requirements?

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53 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

I'd settle for having some hair TBH Bob. :(

So it's a 4 year loan then? 😜

Yes, seems like it is a 4 year loan. If we don't want him during that time we will have to sub-let him to another club for the remainder of the loan period.

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49 minutes ago, RedEyez said:

Agreed but if it had to be one it would be COD for me. He doesn't wanna be here and at least Pato is more versatile. 

True dat

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2 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

I don’t see the concern with Kasey Palmer. He is the best attacking player we have signed this window and perhaps since Tomlin(who didn’t work out). He is better than Paterson, better than Szmodics and better than Eliasson. We also have the benefit of him being with the team for 5 months. The only negative is we didn’t get him in earlier. 

In terms of who plays I haven’t really be enamoured with any of the 3 behind the striker. Szmodics and Semenyo(will play left I imagine at times)has promise. Paterson is either way up or way down. COD may or may not be here come this time next week. Eliasson only goes left and is figured out usually by the 30th minute. Only Weimann is relatively consistent and he has his flaws. 

For the concern about tactics and style I think that what we see is LJs style. We have multiple options for multiple situations that can mould into multiple formations without using substitutes. I don’t necessarily love it but that is his style. No matter the formation he has a way of playing that he expects. His gambling is putting more naturally attacking players in more defensive positions. Examples being down a goal Palmer deeper into midfield for Pack and maybe COD at fullback. 

I think it may be a slowish start to the season but despite us signing loan players again(permanently) still get the feel we are better in attacking situations now than we were first game last season. Defensively maybe a bit less with Webster going but there were some leaks back there last season too. So think the extra goals scored will outweigh the extra conceded. Makes little sense read out loud but meaning I think we will win more games this year instead of drawing so many. 

You are an articulate and intelligent poster but If I had presented that to my FA assessor as an example of playing philosophy I think he would have chucked it back at me and asked if I wanted to pass or not. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Class 👏

How nice to hear that. Very serious about his career and how he can improve but also lovely to hear that his families’ happiness/stability is so important to him. DNA checked firmly passed IMHO. 

Welcome back Kasey. 

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24 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Fair points, but even then do you not look at our squad and feel some are now surplus to requirements?

It’s tough until we sign more IMO. A bit chicken and egg. People keep saying about moving Taylor on but as things stand he’s one of two senior strikers. Not a chance we will move him on unless replacements are guaranteed. 

Same with Walsh - as things stand he’s first line cover for injuries. 

Watkins and Paterson - argument there to move on either or both now but both quite versatile across the front line and can cover multiple positions. 

Until we know what our ‘final’ squad looks like I think it’s hard to move any of them on.

As fans we don’t know 1% of what’s happening behind the scenes and what the plan is, so I think it’s quite hard to theorise about who is and isn’t required. 

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“Kasey has made big sacrifices to come here and we truly believe Bristol City and Kasey will be a fantastic match moving forward.” LJ

Could somebody tell me the big sacrifices he has made? This isn't Swansea, not the nicest place on the planet.

How much did he play for us when he was here. Full season stats which includes elsewhere show only 1172 minutes played - 13 full games.

Sorry I'm underwhelmed and if I was Szmodics I'd be feeling a bit ***sed off.

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2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Right DNA .

Are you watching Micky ? 

His family wanted to come back to Bristol ! 

We all have had little jokes about DNA , me included but what is more glaring for me , particularly around the 3 Chelsea signings is how they all mention how much they enjoyed their teammates 

Credit to LJ and MA for this aspect of our recruitment over a couple of years

(I’d credit them even more for this than the logistics for getting deals done because their job appears to have been made easier by getting the right sort of characters in thus the existing atmosphere in the squad) 

We clearly have a squad who enjoy each other’s company and for me that’s massive

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I'd love to know what version his nipper sings? Imagine having friends over and the little 'un bursts into 'daddy's' song! 😂

We've upset his Mrs already then, whoops! 

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2 minutes ago, headhunter said:

“Kasey has made big sacrifices to come here and we truly believe Bristol City and Kasey will be a fantastic match moving forward.” LJ

Could somebody tell me the big sacrifices he has made? This isn't Swansea, not the nicest place on the planet.

How much did he play for us when he was here. Full season stats which includes elsewhere show only 1172 minutes played - 13 full games.

Sorry I'm underwhelmed and if I was Szmodics I'd be feeling a bit ***sed off.

Why the anger? I inferred the ‘sacrifice’ to be suggesting he’s taken a pay cut to come here. 

Szmodics has just been signed from L2. He’s got an opportunity to learn from and play alongside a fantastic player coached by one of the best teams in the country.

If he’s got anything about him he should be delighted with his lot here! 

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3 minutes ago, headhunter said:

“Kasey has made big sacrifices to come here and we truly believe Bristol City and Kasey will be a fantastic match moving forward.” LJ

Could somebody tell me the big sacrifices he has made? This isn't Swansea, not the nicest place on the planet.

How much did he play for us when he was here. Full season stats which includes elsewhere show only 1172 minutes played - 13 full games.

Sorry I'm underwhelmed and if I was Szmodics I'd be feeling a bit ***sed off.

He’s probably taken a pay cut joining us and moved down a league. Surely having competition for places and we do know how Sammie will cope in the championship he. Feels like you’re moaning for the sake of moaning. 

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9 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

How nice to hear that. Very serious about his career and how he can improve but also lovely to hear that his families’ happiness/stability is so important to him. DNA checked firmly passed IMHO. 

Welcome back Kasey. 

He’s very much a family man , and  a religious guy too

 

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1 minute ago, headhunter said:

“Kasey has made big sacrifices to come here and we truly believe Bristol City and Kasey will be a fantastic match moving forward.” LJ

Could somebody tell me the big sacrifices he has made? This isn't Swansea, not the nicest place on the planet.

How much did he play for us when he was here. Full season stats which includes elsewhere show only 1172 minutes played - 13 full games.

Sorry I'm underwhelmed and if I was Szmodics I'd be feeling a bit ***sed off.

Forgive me but you don’t recognise a talented footballer when you see one .

This lad is only 22 and can already do things most players can only dream of.

He will improve and be a pivotal figure in our ( or Aston Villa’s ) future.

Szmodics is not necessarily going to play in the same position as KP and who’s to say that they won’t both be in the team.

Sammy knows the level he needs to be at so this could drive him on.

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1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Kalas, DaSilva and Palmer in for a combined £12.5m

Kelly sold for £15m up front

"Oh Mark Ashton, I'll let you shag my wife..."

Does your wife not get any say in the matter?

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40 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

How nice to hear that. Very serious about his career and how he can improve but also lovely to hear that his families’ happiness/stability is so important to him. DNA checked firmly passed IMHO. 

Welcome back Kasey. 

Yeah - really impressed by how well he comes across in the interview and how much he is emphasising that he wants to settle for the long-term. If he fulfils his potential then he will be a superb signing. 

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1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Kalas, DaSilva and Palmer in for a combined £12.5m

Kelly sold for £15m up front

"Oh Mark Ashton, I'll let you shag my wife..."

Thank god I'm not married!

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53 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

You are an articulate and intelligent poster but If I had presented that to my FA assessor as an example of playing philosophy I think he would have chucked it back at me and asked if I wanted to pass or not. 

 

I won’t say I know anything about how an FA assessor would view that. I would say the English FA(or the coaches in England)seems to be catching up with the rest of the world in terms of tactics and creativity. Perhaps LJ is just ahead of the curve in what I have posted. 

I have no clue honestly just an opinion on how I view what our squad looks like and perhaps how LJ thinks. 

The reason I mentioned tactics was as some have said it does look a melange of players that don’t necessarily fit together. That said I believe Palmer is better than any other attacking player we have so I don’t think we should worry about how he fits. Think he fits just by being gifted

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16 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Kid in the riot said he was signed not long after Gregor already announced it, don’t trust Greg but kitr is pretty reliable 

I understand what you mean, but that is probably a bit unfair on GregMacGreg.

Articles from his colleagues appear frequently to be nothing but embarrassingly inaccurate waffle, but I get the feeling GregmacGreg is closer to the club, and I have certainly no reason to feel that I am unable to trust him.

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1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Class 👏

Seems such a down to Earth, articulate family man for a bloke so young but massively driven also. Will be a fantastic addition imho. Good luck KP!  

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14 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I won’t say I know anything about how an FA assessor would view that. I would say the English FA(or the coaches in England)seems to be catching up with the rest of the world in terms of tactics and creativity. Perhaps LJ is just ahead of the curve in what I have posted. 

I have no clue honestly just an opinion on how I view what our squad looks like and perhaps how LJ thinks. 

The reason I mentioned tactics was as some have said it does look a melange of players that don’t necessarily fit together. That said I believe Palmer is better than any other attacking player we have so I don’t think we should worry about how he fits. Think he fits just by being gifted

FA assessors use a modern framework that differs little to their counterparts abroad which means qualifications and approaches cross national boundaries.

The paragraph I highlighted is not a modern approach, its haphazard and ill defined. A modern approach is that there is always a future game in mind. All actions lead to that future game. Each season is a periodized step to the next step, its logical and planned and driven by an ever present coaching and playing philosophy that differs little season to season in its quest to reach that future.

The squad after seasons should never be a melange (wonderful word) of players. That is the scenario the very successful are/and have moved away from. 

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22 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

ha ha ha, excellent !!:source::wub::sun:

Liked the video did you Max ?

The shirt looked good didn’t it .....

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Liked the video did you Max ?

The shirt looked good didn’t it .....

 

 

 

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Thought the stadium looked good too!

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2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Not sure our squad is exactly huge. A few of the ‘first team’ squad are a long way from being contenders for regular first team action and you’d be looking at the next couple of years for their development to either serious first team contention or moving on  

Theres a couple I’d be looking to move on if we get enough cover in their positions but it’s hardly enormous by modern standards. 

Definitely unbalanced in places though. Quite disappointed that we seemingly didn’t consider CM a key area to improve on significantly. 

The inability to upgrade Pack hopefully won't come back to bite us on the back.

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15 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

FA assessors use a modern framework that differs little to their counterparts abroad which means qualifications and approaches cross national boundaries.

The paragraph I highlighted is not a modern approach, its haphazard and ill defined. A modern approach is that there is always a future game in mind. All actions lead to that future game. Each season is a periodized step to the next step, its logical and planned and driven by an ever present coaching and playing philosophy that differs little season to season in its quest to reach that future.

The squad after seasons should never be a melange (wonderful word) of players. That is the scenario the very successful are/and have moved away from. 

Have no more likes but thanks. Is an interesting thought for me. Have been thinking about reading up a bit more about football, tactics and other football related topics. 

Most of my opinions are formed with my knowledge of other sports. Football was probably fourth on my list of sports I played and watched in my years growing up. So always open to expanding my knowledge on it

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2 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

I'd settle for having some hair TBH Bob. :(

So it's a 4 year loan then? 😜

I'd settle for a 4 year loan of some hair!!

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1 hour ago, YorkshireSection said:

The inability to upgrade Pack hopefully won't come back to bite us on the back.

Bakinson will be a pack upgrade giving another year of development 

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A loan deal would with possibility of a permanent move next summer would have been my preference but all the best to Kasey and his future in football.

With Paterson, Niklas, Sammy, Callum and Weimann I think we have enough creativity to back up our lone striker Fam who only score from inside the penalty area.

We need another Fam if anything.  

On a sunny day in Guernsey anything can happen though.

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