One Team In Keynsham Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Doesn't seem to be on the Beeb as yet, but I see Sky reporting that Platini has been arrested in relation to corruption over the Qatar 2022 bid. If true, imagine the surprise and shock horror on that one. The authorities must have had Colombo, Poirot, Sherlock and Shoestring working the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 18, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Doesn't seem to be on the Beeb as yet Was breaking news 15 minutes ago https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48673461 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 So corrupt. At the time Qatar won it something didn’t seem right . Ridiculous place to have a World Cup . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Is that why they allow League football at a field in North Bristol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Did I read that the stadia that are being built in Qatar will be subsequently dismantled and shipped to other developing countries? You don't think that Wael ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: So corrupt. At the time Qatar won it something didn’t seem right . Ridiculous place to have a World Cup . Can't recall who the quote was attributed to, but remember reading something on the lines of "If the decision to award 2022 to Qatar WASN'T made as a result of bribery, then the process was utterly incompetent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 When Blatter was in charge and everything was starting to kick off,I thought there was hope it would be taken away from Qatar. Its a little bit too late now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: When Blatter was in charge and everything was starting to kick off,I thought there was hope it would be taken away from Qatar. Its a little bit too late now. Still two and a half years, so I remain hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 18, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Did I read that the stadia that are being built in Qatar will be subsequently dismantled and shipped to other developing countries? You don't think that Wael ... FAO: @Rudolf Hucker The final number of stadium developments for Qatar 2022 will vary from 8 – 12 stadiums depending on the results of negotiations with FIFA. However, the Qataris have already started on five of the stadium projects (4 newbuilds and 1 modernisation): Al Wakrah – Located 15km south of Doha, the design draws on Qatar’s seafaring traditions. The 40,000 capacity stadium incorporates LEED and GSAS 4 Star environmental standards. Spectator stands will be cooled to a supremely comfortable 24-28 degrees Celsius. AECOM were appointed to design Al Wakrah Stadium in association with Zaha Hadid Architects. AECOM serves as the Design Consultant on the project, while KEO International Consultantsis the Project Manager. Following the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™, Al Wakrah Stadium’s modular, 20,000-seat upper tier will be disassembled and distributed to developing nations that lack sporting infrastructure. Al-Bayt Stadium – Al Khor City is modelled on the traditional tent structures of nomadic tribes with distinctive black and white stripes. Providing 60,000 capacity for World Cup usage, after 2022 the upper tier will be removed and the modular sections will be used to build stadiums in countries around the world that lack adequate sporting infrastructure. Khalifa Stadium – The Aspire Zone Foundation, a stakeholder of the Supreme Committee for Delivery & Legacy (SC), is leading the renovation of the existing Khalifa International Stadium. Originally built as a 20,000-seat stadium in 1976, Khalifa International Stadium hosted the Gulf Cup that year. The stadium will feature 40,000 seats for spectators in 2022, along with a number of upgraded facilities. Projacs serves as the project manager, and Dar Al-Handasah is the design consultant. Qatar Foundation Stadium – The new, 40,000 seat stadium will be located in Education City, the home of Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community Development (QF). It will fulfil all FIFA requirements for hosting matches through to the quarter-finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™. It is being delivered by QF, one of the stakeholders of the Supreme Committee for Delivery & Legacy (SC). ASTAD Project Management is the project manager for Qatar Foundation Stadium. RFA Fenwick Iribarren Architects serves as the lead design consultant. Following the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™, the stadium’s capacity will be reduced to 25,000 seats with the upper tier offered overseas. Al Rayyan – Al Rayyan Stadium and Precinct, which will be built on the site of Ahmed Bin Ali Stadium, are designed to showcase Qatar’s culture. The Supreme Committee for Delivery & Legacy (SC) will deliver the new, 40,000-seat Al Rayyan Stadium. AECOM is the stadium’s project manager, while the design work is being undertaken by Ramboll and Pattern Design. The unique façade of Al Rayyan Stadium is formed from seven patterns, representing different aspects of Qatari culture. Following the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™, the seating capacity of Al Rayyan Stadium will be reduced to approximately 21,000 and it will become the new home of Al Rayyan Sports Club, which has historically been one of Qatar’s most popular and successful football teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Hes made some unflattering comments about english football in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Much like UEFA and the Europa league final in Baku. No thought goes into it. Getting others interested is obviously great; football is global. But Jesus wept, Qatar - scandalous decision. No surprise to see Platini's grubby hands all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first That would work if at the same time they weren’t actively trying to cut of access for the smaller teams to qualify (champions league) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Doesn't seem to be on the Beeb as yet, but I see Sky reporting that Platini has been arrested in relation to corruption over the Qatar 2022 bid. If true, imagine the surprise and shock horror on that one. The authorities must have had Colombo, Poirot, Sherlock and Shoestring working the case. Maigret surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, phantom said: Al Wakrah Stadium’s modular, 20,000-seat upper tier will be disassembled and distributed to developing nations that lack sporting infrastructure. Bugger. Not big enough then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Unfortunately that is nonsense but a believable bit of spin. Football already has mass global appeal. Go to any continent and you will find football shirts from all over the world, fans of various different clubs. Football touches every country and the geographical mobility of players piques interest - you only have to see how many Senegalese for instance follow our Twitter thanks to Fammy. The problem with taking the tournaments there is these places need the glitz and glamour to host the event. You couldn't take a world cup to a place that doesn't have huge hotels, huge airports, great road and rail transport etc (see the disaster of Baku). This all costs an absolute fortune and for four weeks. Sure there is a tourism boost, temporarily, but all this is expensive then in upkeep, or it gets left to ruins. These tournaments should only go to places where the infrastructure is - for the most part - in place. Not where it needs to be built. More and more nations are investing in their domestic leagues and grassroots which in turn boosts their domestic game, which brings better players and bigger stadiums. This could and would all happen naturally, so I don't see that football is being exclusive. Give it time and they will be ready... but give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, phantom said: FAO: @Rudolf Hucker The final number of stadium developments for Qatar 2022 will vary from 8 – 12 stadiums depending on the results of negotiations with FIFA. However, the Qataris have already started on five of the stadium projects (4 newbuilds and 1 modernisation): Al Wakrah – Located 15km south of Doha, the design draws on Qatar’s seafaring traditions. The 40,000 capacity stadium incorporates LEED and GSAS 4 Star environmental standards. Spectator stands will be cooled to a supremely comfortable 24-28 degrees Celsius. AECOM were appointed to design Al Wakrah Stadium in association with Zaha Hadid Architects. AECOM serves as the Design Consultant on the project, while KEO International Consultantsis the Project Manager. Following the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™, Al Wakrah Stadium’s modular, 20,000-seat upper tier will be disassembled and distributed to developing nations that lack sporting infrastructure. Al-Bayt Stadium – Al Khor City is modelled on the traditional tent structures of nomadic tribes with distinctive black and white stripes. Providing 60,000 capacity for World Cup usage, after 2022 the upper tier will be removed and the modular sections will be used to build stadiums in countries around the world that lack adequate sporting infrastructure. Khalifa Stadium – The Aspire Zone Foundation, a stakeholder of the Supreme Committee for Delivery & Legacy (SC), is leading the renovation of the existing Khalifa International Stadium. Originally built as a 20,000-seat stadium in 1976, Khalifa International Stadium hosted the Gulf Cup that year. The stadium will feature 40,000 seats for spectators in 2022, along with a number of upgraded facilities. Projacs serves as the project manager, and Dar Al-Handasah is the design consultant. Qatar Foundation Stadium – The new, 40,000 seat stadium will be located in Education City, the home of Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community Development (QF). It will fulfil all FIFA requirements for hosting matches through to the quarter-finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™. It is being delivered by QF, one of the stakeholders of the Supreme Committee for Delivery & Legacy (SC). ASTAD Project Management is the project manager for Qatar Foundation Stadium. RFA Fenwick Iribarren Architects serves as the lead design consultant. Following the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™, the stadium’s capacity will be reduced to 25,000 seats with the upper tier offered overseas. Al Rayyan – Al Rayyan Stadium and Precinct, which will be built on the site of Ahmed Bin Ali Stadium, are designed to showcase Qatar’s culture. The Supreme Committee for Delivery & Legacy (SC) will deliver the new, 40,000-seat Al Rayyan Stadium. AECOM is the stadium’s project manager, while the design work is being undertaken by Ramboll and Pattern Design. The unique façade of Al Rayyan Stadium is formed from seven patterns, representing different aspects of Qatari culture. Following the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar™, the seating capacity of Al Rayyan Stadium will be reduced to approximately 21,000 and it will become the new home of Al Rayyan Sports Club, which has historically been one of Qatar’s most popular and successful football teams. Built by the sweat and blood of exploited, underpaid South Asian workers, but the benefits will be reaped exclusively by the already super rich citizens of.this racist, homophobic, sexist nation. Makes me sick. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first If UEFA had any interest in widening appeal they would allow all League Champions of nations into the league stages of the Champions League and make the also rans, such as Liverpool, Real Madrid, Napoli etc to play countless qualifying rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first and making a shit tonne of cash in bribes while they're at it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Al-Bayt Stadium – Al Khor City is modelled on the traditional tent structures of nomadic tribes with distinctive black and white stripes. Providing 60,000 capacity for World Cup usage, after 2022 the upper tier will be removed and the modular sections will be used to build stadiums in countries around the world that lack adequate sporting infrastructure. Tents are the way to go for stadiums of the future...................Bristol Rovers always driving innovation - they lead the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Wouldn't surprise me if Bristol City Council had a hand in it somewhere. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Nope, purely about how much money they can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Maigret surely. or Mr Bean… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undy English Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: Built by the sweat and blood of exploited, underpaid South Asian workers, but the benefits will be reaped exclusively by the already super rich citizens of.this racist, homophobic, sexist nation. Makes me sick. . Well said. Interesting fact I discovered today......... If a minute silence was held for every estimated migrant workers' death constructing stadia for the Qatar WC, the first 44 games would be played in total silence. That is a incredible yet disgusting statistic. Teams should be looking to boycott this event - simple as. Especially if Platini is now found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 18, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 54 minutes ago, DSTAF said: Much like UEFA and the Europa league final in Baku. No thought goes into it. The massive irony about this is that Ivan Gazidis (who was CEO at Arsenal at the time) was part of a UEFA committee that recommended Baku to be the host for the final No wonder he got out of the Emirates before this season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, grifty said: To be fair to all these random places they are choosing for World Cup and Champions League finals they are trying to widen the appeal, get smaller nations involved, interest from where there may not be but they’ve just done it without weighing up the pros and cons first Half empty stadiums mate!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: Built by the sweat and blood of exploited, underpaid South Asian workers, but the benefits will be reaped exclusively by the already super rich citizens of.this racist, homophobic, sexist nation. Makes me sick. . How is Britain going to benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 The looks on the faces of the other countries' delegates when Qatar wins it are priceless. They know damn well the whole thing has been a charade and Qatar paid the biggest bribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tully Bascomb Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: How is Britain going to benefit? I m sure he doesn’t mean Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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