cityexile Posted June 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If they’re not gonna introduce a manager review (1 per team) like cricket, then get rid of VAR and: just accept that there is a grey area, back your officials to get it right (and mic them up to explain them and pick up players abusing them), back them when they get it wrong by coaching them more stick to pure black and white decisions like goal-line only I agree, but although I hate it, there was in fairness a ‘good’ use of VAR just now in the Brazil France game. Brazil put the ball in the net, flagged for offside. In seconds it was shown she was onside and the goal was given, What gets my goat is when a minute after the event, they go to VAR and then can literally take 3-4 minutes to get a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 WTF was the French goal disallowed for in the first half? VAR seems to just give refs even greater opportunity to be totally incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 So much for players respecting referees more because of decisions being checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, cityexile said: I agree, but although I hate it, there was in fairness a ‘good’ use of VAR just now in the Brazil France game. Brazil put the ball in the net, flagged for offside. In seconds it was shown she was onside and the goal was given, What gets my goat is when a minute after the event, they go to VAR and then can literally take 3-4 minutes to get a decision. Yep, and I'd suggest that if it's taking that long to decide, then it isn't a clear and obvious mistake that needs overturning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just seen the Cameroon quotes holy shit the coach actually telling his players 'don't worry the ref wants England to win today' and him calling it a miscarriage of justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 According to Cameroon. VAR … VIDEO...ASSISTANT... RACIST. Another reason it has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Only saw second half and extra time of France match, but by heck hasn’t the woman’s game kicked on at elite level, and then some. Unbelievable skills and quick feet. Even the keepers look competent. No diving, rolling about either Now a real sport and very watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Far too many things going to VAR. Why does the ref need to see endless replays on the halfway line? I think anything that they refer to VAR should then be taken out of the refs hands (and a poor decision shouldn't reflect on them). They should be able ask the reviewing panel a simple question, can I give the goal/was it offside etc. job done, get on with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/23/england-phil-neville-accuses-cameroon-shaming-football Reports of Cameroonian 'entourage' fighting in the VIP area and at Englands Hotel - would not be drawn on specifics. Referee said to be too afraid to rule against Cameroon for fear for her own safety. It would seem this team and officials were not going to play nice regardless of VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintSaidNo Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 11 hours ago, cityexile said: I agree, but although I hate it, there was in fairness a ‘good’ use of VAR just now in the Brazil France game. Brazil put the ball in the net, flagged for offside. In seconds it was shown she was onside and the goal was given, What gets my goat is when a minute after the event, they go to VAR and then can literally take 3-4 minutes to get a decision. Agree and said this at the time, it’s meant to be for a clear and obvious error. If it’s a clear and obvious error it should only take seconds to decide and the ref shouldn’t need to be called over. It should just be a case of looking at it once, instantly seeing the “clear and obvious” error and then telling the ref. That Brazil goal was the perfect example of what VAR should be: the officials on the field made a clear mistake and it was corrected in seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 11 hours ago, Sixtyseconds said: According to Cameroon. VAR … VIDEO...ASSISTANT... RACIST. Another reason it has to go. Perhaps Cameroon should go instead. VAR works, it's just the plums who are charged with making it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Loon plage said: VAR works, it's just the plums who are charged with making it work. It just causes even more problems overall. The sooner they scrap it or reformat it the better. One review per game per side. Stop spending 5 minutes checking if someone's toe is ahead of another's for offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: It just causes even more problems overall. The sooner they scrap it or reformat it the better. One review per game per side. Stop spending 5 minutes checking if someone's toe is ahead of another's for offside. Couldn’t agree more but in the current rules the Cameroon goal had to be disallowed in the same way Jesse Lingards was the other week. Can’t have one VAR rule for men and another for women, that’s not equality!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 When though do we get scenes such as this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Loon plage said: VAR works, it's just the plums who are charged with making it work. Ok; to improve the method, how about only using it if the Ref is unsure or one team disputes the decision (as with DRS in cricket)? If the ball goes in the net and the defending team prepare to kick off again, that shows they admit it's a goal with no need to stop the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, 22A said: Ok; to improve the method, how about only using it if the Ref is unsure or one team disputes the decision (as with DRS in cricket)? If the ball goes in the net and the defending team prepare to kick off again, that shows they admit it's a goal with no need to stop the game. In that scenario you'd just get teams appealing for everything regardless of whether there was a hint of an offence or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Felt sorry for Spain against the USA ... that 2nd penalty was never a penalty and again it took way too long for the decision to be made . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Of the games I have watched, I have to say that although they are inconsistent, the one thing that England appear to have above all the other sides, is composure when finishing particularly Ellen White. I know the Yanks, banged goals in for fun in the league stages, but they look half the team when pressured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 16 hours ago, miketh2nd said: Felt sorry for Spain against the USA ... that 2nd penalty was never a penalty and again it took way too long for the decision to be made . Outrageous that she watched that back and still gave it! Surely one thing that could make it a bit quicker is that the VAR officials in the studio just make the decision and tell the referee on the pitch. They're all trained referees and are part of the 'team' of officials for the match, so who cares who makes the final decision? We're not playing to feed egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 23/06/2019 at 20:21, Robbored said: So you didn’t know who i meant then............... VAR doesn't make half as many mistakes as you mate......and VAR is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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