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Flag Day 2019

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Could anyone please confirm if Flag Day for the coming season will be the first home game as usual, I.e. the Leeds game on the Sunday?

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On 29/06/2019 at 12:11, One Team said:

Could anyone please confirm if Flag Day for the coming season will be the first home game as usual, I.e. the Leeds game on the Sunday?

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My understanding is that 'Flag Day' necessitates a large Police involvement.

Bristol City vs Leeds, notwithstanding (or even precisely because) it is a late Sunday afternoon kick-off will undoubtedly also require a large Police presence.

I suspect you can assume quite safely that 'Flag Day' and City/Leeds will not coincide.

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5 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

My understanding is that 'Flag Day' necessitates a large Police involvement.

Bristol City vs Leeds, notwithstanding (or even precisely because) it is a late Sunday afternoon kick-off will undoubtedly also require a large Police presence.

I suspect you can assume quite safely that 'Flag Day' and City/Leeds will not coincide.

Forgive my ignorance but surely you don't need police permission to go to the pub and put a flag up? 

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9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Forgive my ignorance but surely you don't need police permission to go to the pub and put a flag up? 

Of course not, and I am sure that if you (and only you) want to put up a (non-offensive) flag in a BS3 pub on the Sunday of the Leeds game you won't need to seek permission from the Police.

Nevertheless, I remain sceptical that the Police will allow 'Flag Day' to take place on 4 August 2019.

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14 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Forgive my ignorance but surely you don't need police permission to go to the pub and put a flag up? 

It’s more to do with traffic management due to all the fans in the road. They also tend to close the road for 10 minutes 

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I just posted in another thread it is planned for Leeds but awaiting police confirmation. 

Personally I’d rather it was done on the Saturday vs QPR. 

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4 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Could very well be on the Leeds game. 

We should know by tomorrow.

 

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16 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Of course not, and I am sure that if you (and only you) want to put up a (non-offensive) flag in a BS3 pub on the Sunday of the Leeds game you won't need to seek permission from the Police.

Nevertheless, I remain sceptical that the Police will allow 'Flag Day' to take place on 4 August 2019.

Fair enough, I didn't realise the event had that level of 'organisation'. 

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Thanks for the replies, appreciated.

Its been the first home game for the last few years so was kind of expecting it to be the same again but have seen very little about it on social media.

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It depends if those involved in setting it up each year still have the enthusiasm to do it or their availability to do that date due to their own working commitments..

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Take a small admission fee and give the money to charity. The people working for free will be happier and there will not be a traffic problem as quite a few people are misers and will not turn up.

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7 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Take a small admission fee and give the money to charity. The people working for free will be happier and there will not be a traffic problem as quite a few people are misers and will not turn up.

You can't really charge people to go onto the public footpath bcsweden, however good of an idea that is.

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2 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

You can't really charge people to go onto the public footpath bcsweden, however good of an idea that is.

They are likely to enter the pub I guess

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On 02/07/2019 at 15:47, bristolcitysweden said:

They are likely to enter the pub I guess

I think part of the problem is that it has been a victim of it's own success and a fair number of 'youth' turn up with a carrier bag full of cans, without spending money in the pub.

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8 minutes ago, One Team said:

Thanks for the update!

Where do you get those shirts?

I may be risking a massive woosh but I would guess a certain pub that is strongly connected to The Three Lions Flag Day.

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19 minutes ago, One Team said:

Thanks for the update!

Where do you get those shirts?

Yeah the Three Lions mate. Also got these 

 

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26 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think part of the problem is that it has been a victim of it's own success and a fair number of 'youth' turn up with a carrier bag full of cans, without spending money in the pub.

In a nutshell. 

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24 minutes ago, One Team said:

Fair point mate! Just not local that’s all.

Sorry mucker.Couldnt resist. 3 Lions is in West Street in Bedminster if you aren't sure where it is.

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2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think part of the problem is that it has been a victim of it's own success and a fair number of 'youth' turn up with a carrier bag full of cans, without spending money in the pub.

But who's thought is that, with the price of a pint in pubs, cheaper to buy from local shop, 

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3 hours ago, Redmycolour said:

But who's thought is that, with the price of a pint in pubs, cheaper to buy from local shop, 

Then those 'kids' should go and organise their own Flag Day at a different venue.....and not tag along to the Three Lions event.

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7 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think part of the problem is that it has been a victim of it's own success and a fair number of 'youth' turn up with a carrier bag full of cans, without spending money in the pub.

To be fair many of us spent pretty much the whole of the 1980s doing exactly that. Good times. 

Whereas these days - middle aged shout out - we're asking 'do you offer any crudités and a selection of craft beers?'

Modern football eh? 😕 Sad. 

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On 02/07/2019 at 15:58, bristolcitysweden said:

15,000 season tickets sold but less than 100 people supporting Section 82 on OTIB. Need to catch other groups of fans.

Section 82 are a very small clique who don’t like anyone encroaching on their patch. If they weren’t so inward focused they would already have more support. They are so tight with Bristol Sport they’re more like the Disney Club than football ultras.

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50 minutes ago, Pieman said:

Section 82 are a very small clique who don’t like anyone encroaching on their patch. If they weren’t so inward focused they would already have more support. They are so tight with Bristol Sport they’re more like the Disney Club than football ultras.

That's not a bad first post...

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The details for the 23rd edition of Flag Day have been confirmed, with host Sean Donnelly outlining why the date has been moved from the first day of Bristol City's season to August 17.
 
Flag Day, which dates back to 1996, is a celebration of Bristol City fan culture with supporters meeting outside Donnelly's Three Lions pub in Bedminster, displaying banners, singing songs and decorating the streets with colour.
 
It was expected to coincide with City's Championship opener against Leeds United on Sunday, August 4 which has been moved to a 4.30pm kick-off to accommodate Sky Sports desire to broadcast the game.
 
Given the potential volatile nature of the fixture, and after extensive discussions with Avon & Somerset Police, Donnelly and the Section 82 fans group who are the driving force behind the banners have decided to move Flag Day to August 17.
 
That will be City's second home league game of the season against Queens Park Rangers at the more traditional kick-off time of 3pm on a Saturday meaning the festivities can get underway, as normal, at 10am
 
The police never told us to move the game but we understand the nature of the fixture and what could happen," Donnelly told Bristol Live.
 
"All it takes is one idiot to infiltrate the crowd, from either side, and start causing trouble.
 
"It's not that the police told us to move it, they said they were happy for it to go ahead on August 4, it's our decision based on what could happen if it goes ahead."
Sky Sports had even wanted to film Flag Day to coincide with their coverage of what should be a blockbuster match between City and Leeds.
 
However, the potential for trouble and all the implications of negative images being televised to a nationwide audience have led Donnelly and Section 82 to make the decision.
 
"On the one hand, having the Sky cameras could have been great; as an advertisement for the club, the city, the supporters and even the pub," Donnelly added.
"But that works the other way and the last thing we want is for Flag Day to be given a bad name.
It's still going to be a celebration and it's still going to be one big party."
 
The event has taken placed every year since 1996 and was traditionally held at the end of every season, with the exception of City's relegation to League One in 2013.
 
It was moved to the start of each season in 2016 following the death of loyal Robin James Grieve, who was a major influence in making Flag Day the spectacle it is today.
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To be fair section 82 have little input in recent times for flag day its mostly been myself and the group that was WTMS 'when the moon shines' (enie robin logo) but don't let the EP get in the way of a little fake news.. No dig at section 82 just giving out facts..

Section 82 was not even formed when flag days were first up and running..

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6 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:
The details for the 23rd edition of Flag Day have been confirmed, with host Sean Donnelly outlining why the date has been moved from the first day of Bristol City's season to August 17.
 
Flag Day, which dates back to 1996, is a celebration of Bristol City fan culture with supporters meeting outside Donnelly's Three Lions pub in Bedminster, displaying banners, singing songs and decorating the streets with colour.
 
It was expected to coincide with City's Championship opener against Leeds United on Sunday, August 4 which has been moved to a 4.30pm kick-off to accommodate Sky Sports desire to broadcast the game.
 
Given the potential volatile nature of the fixture, and after extensive discussions with Avon & Somerset Police, Donnelly and the Section 82 fans group who are the driving force behind the banners have decided to move Flag Day to August 17.
 
That will be City's second home league game of the season against Queens Park Rangers at the more traditional kick-off time of 3pm on a Saturday meaning the festivities can get underway, as normal, at 10am
 
The police never told us to move the game but we understand the nature of the fixture and what could happen," Donnelly told Bristol Live.
 
"All it takes is one idiot to infiltrate the crowd, from either side, and start causing trouble.
 
"It's not that the police told us to move it, they said they were happy for it to go ahead on August 4, it's our decision based on what could happen if it goes ahead."
Sky Sports had even wanted to film Flag Day to coincide with their coverage of what should be a blockbuster match between City and Leeds.
 
However, the potential for trouble and all the implications of negative images being televised to a nationwide audience have led Donnelly and Section 82 to make the decision.
 
"On the one hand, having the Sky cameras could have been great; as an advertisement for the club, the city, the supporters and even the pub," Donnelly added.
"But that works the other way and the last thing we want is for Flag Day to be given a bad name.
It's still going to be a celebration and it's still going to be one big party."
 
The event has taken placed every year since 1996 and was traditionally held at the end of every season, with the exception of City's relegation to League One in 2013.
 
It was moved to the start of each season in 2016 following the death of loyal Robin James Grieve, who was a major influence in making Flag Day the spectacle it is today.

That would have been myself and Sean D talking about this not section 82.. Again no dig at them but fairs fair on facts..

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15 minutes ago, cider head said:

That would have been myself and Sean D talking about this not section 82.. Again no dig at them but fairs fair on facts..

This was from the Bristol Post mate.

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2 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

This was from the Bristol Post mate.

I know mate but not sure where they got section 82 from though

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1 minute ago, cider head said:

I know mate but not sure where they got section 82 from though

They just throw names into the mix to make it sound like they've done their research good and proper.

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12 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

Then those 'kids' should go and organise their own Flag Day at a different venue.....and not tag along to the Three Lions event.

Hey, I agree, just stating a fact, I don't drink, so I doesn't bother me, water for me, 

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14 hours ago, Redmycolour said:

Hey, I agree, just stating a fact, I don't drink, so I doesn't bother me, water for me, 

Wasn't a dig at you mate.....and I don't drink either. I've got better things to be spending my money on.

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7 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

Wasn't a dig at you mate.....and I don't drink either. I've got better things to be spending my money on.

Same here, like holidays, 

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On 06/07/2019 at 00:10, Pieman said:

Section 82 are a very small clique who don’t like anyone encroaching on their patch. If they weren’t so inward focused they would already have more support. They are so tight with Bristol Sport they’re more like the Disney Club than football ultras.

Would you care to expand / explain

As somebody who is not part of but who donates to Sec 82 , and had thoughts of further financial support , I’m generally interested 

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In my experience they do a great job of getting the atmosphere going, but they don’t feel very approachable or open to ‘outsiders’. A couple of seasons ago some of the younger fans who mainly sit up high in s27 started singing ‘LJ he’s taking us to Europe’ which was actually getting abuse and booing from S82. Apparently as some of their old boys didn’t like it. Someone once brought in another drum and S82 called security to get him chucked out. They used to ask for volunteers to help setting up the displays, but this has stopped due to what seems to be fear of anyone encroaching on their patch. I also know personally of someone who contacted the club about flags/drums etc, and was told, by the club, that all fan issues/ideas need to go through S82. Now this is fantastic that the club is actively engaging with the fans, but not if it’s only with a small group behind closed doors. 

 

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1 hour ago, Pieman said:

In my experience they do a great job of getting the atmosphere going, but they don’t feel very approachable or open to ‘outsiders’. A couple of seasons ago some of the younger fans who mainly sit up high in s27 started singing ‘LJ he’s taking us to Europe’ which was actually getting abuse and booing from S82. Apparently as some of their old boys didn’t like it. Someone once brought in another drum and S82 called security to get him chucked out. They used to ask for volunteers to help setting up the displays, but this has stopped due to what seems to be fear of anyone encroaching on their patch. I also know personally of someone who contacted the club about flags/drums etc, and was told, by the club, that all fan issues/ideas need to go through S82. Now this is fantastic that the club is actively engaging with the fans, but not if it’s only with a small group behind closed doors. 

 

Pieman, if I remember correctly Section 82 tweeted / posted on OTIB last season to encourage fans to come up and chat to them and also actively sought out support for new members.

Not sure why they are getting such a bad rep on here?

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46 minutes ago, RedRobin96 said:

Pieman, if I remember correctly Section 82 tweeted / posted on OTIB last season to encourage fans to come up and chat to them and also actively sought out support for new members.

Not sure why they are getting such a bad rep on here?

It’s simple really, people love to moan about anyone trying to do anything, it’s been the same since the east end was open. City fans just love to moan. 

Its easy to say slate people but No one gives advice on how they think it should be done better. 

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Flag day has been going since 96?? It hasn't early 2000's and the idea really started with Forza EE 2007 onwards then wtms. Section 82 used to be nothing to do with it because they made it clear they didnt want to be.

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4 hours ago, Club and Country said:

The LJ is taking us to europe deserves booing

as does anyone trying to start allez allez allez next season

Absolutely. Horrendous chants 

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