Major Isewater Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Are we better or worse off than last season, as it stands ? Does anyone think top six is possible if we don’t make any further additions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Slightly better than last year. A prolific striker however, will change those odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 We're a top 10 side and I don't believe that'll change anytime soon But we still need some more options upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Not possible due to lack of strength up front. Our best team hasn't changed at all yet! 7 new signings, 3 of which are squad fillers, 2 of which have a chance and 2 who were here last year. 2 outgoings, neither first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Sturny said: We're a top 10 side and I don't believe that'll change anytime soon I would say mid-table side as the defence looks good albeit threadbare re full back cover. We've not really strengthened the midfield except for an untried player at this level from League 2 and another from League 1. Up top we still don't have a striker yet unless Semenyo/Janneh comes through and partners Weimann. Relying on Diedhiou will get us nowhere. So quite a bit of recruitment still to do imo before I can say top 10 let alone top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I would say mid-table side as the defence looks good albeit threadbare re full back cover. We've not really strengthened the midfield except for an untried player at this level from League 2 and another from League 1. Up top we still don't have a striker yet unless Semenyo/Janneh comes through and partners Weimann. Relying on Diedhiou will get us nowhere. So quite a bit of recruitment still to do imo before I can say top 10 let alone top 6. Out of interest why do you think we would be worse than last season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I think i’m waiting to see why happens in the Forward positions....then will see if our recruitment looks joined up or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 For fear of sounding like the resident forum troll Robbored, I think this is a rather pointless question, as there is zero chance that we won't be signing any further players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 We have safely negotiated my initial concerns, where after the loans went back, I wondered how we’d possibly even establish a status quo. Excellent business so far has left us as strong as we finished (8th) last season, if not slightly stronger, albeit having lost Kelly. We need more cover at left back and probably another midfielder. If we can get a top striker, then I think we could push into the playoffs - but that all depends on who we might lose as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Out of interest why do you think we would be worse than last season ? I suppose there are some who think that because we have virtually the same team as last season, we will automatically finish in a similar position. Looking at the squad from last season, I think we did extremely well to finish 8th. Overachieved in my opinion which was a pleasant surprise to me. To push on we need to recruit a few more players in key positions who are better than what we already have and I don't think we've done that - yet. Right Back Left Back cover/competition Defensive midfielder Attacking midfielder (Szmodics may be the one but unproven and Palmer would be better) And the most important one - striker, which is easier said than done (hopefully Semenyo or Janneh can break through or LJ gives Weimann a run in that position). As it stands, I can't see us being near the bottom but I can't see us being near the top either. A few good signings and that will change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Not possible due to lack of strength up front. Our best team hasn't changed at all yet! 7 new signings, 3 of which are squad fillers, 2 of which have a chance and 2 who were here last year. 2 outgoings, neither first choice. Rubbish, it’s entirely possible, we’ve proven that in the past cardiff got automatic promotion without a single player hitting double figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, bcfc01 said: I suppose there are some who think that because we have virtually the same team as last season, we will automatically finish in a similar position. Looking at the squad from last season, I think we did extremely well to finish 8th. Overachieved in my opinion which was a pleasant surprise to me. To push on we need to recruit a few more players in key positions who are better than what we already have and I don't think we've done that - yet. Right Back Left Back cover/competition Defensive midfielder Attacking midfielder (Szmodics may be the one but unproven and Palmer would be better) And the most important one - striker, which is easier said than done (hopefully Semenyo or Janneh can break through or LJ gives Weimann a run in that position). As it stands, I can't see us being near the bottom but I can't see us being near the top either. A few good signings and that will change my mind. Right back we have brownhill and vyner to cover left back we have Rowe to cover defensive midfielder we have smith pack and brownhill attacking midfield we have Sammie pato and wienman upfront we are light but 1 striker will cover that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I suppose there are some who think that because we have virtually the same team as last season, we will automatically finish in a similar position. Looking at the squad from last season, I think we did extremely well to finish 8th. Overachieved in my opinion which was a pleasant surprise to me. To push on we need to recruit a few more players in key positions who are better than what we already have and I don't think we've done that - yet. Right Back Left Back cover/competition Defensive midfielder Attacking midfielder (Szmodics may be the one but unproven and Palmer would be better) And the most important one - striker, which is easier said than done (hopefully Semenyo or Janneh can break through or LJ gives Weimann a run in that position). As it stands, I can't see us being near the bottom but I can't see us being near the top either. A few good signings and that will change my mind. Blimey. That’s an incredibly negative opinion. Our squad has strengthened and our first XI is pretty much the same so would be very surprised if this current squad was near the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I have a feeling we'll finish top 3. I think the league is generally a bit weak, Leeds being the strongest team in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 a top striker brought in and we have a great chance of top six. i would like to see Williams from Everton in the squad and callum committing his future to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Eastside Moonwalker said: I have a feeling we'll finish top 3. I think the league is generally a bit weak, Leeds being the strongest team in it Can’t agree this league will never be week, It’s fast becoming a two tier championship with the haves and have nots we are the Everton of the championship, not as rich as the top teams due to limitations in revenue which we are putting right but we aren’t in the lower tier like say millwall and Barnsley (no disrespect intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Monkeh said: Right back we have brownhill and vyner to cover - a midfielder and a centre back, both of which are not as able as what we have left back we have Rowe to cover - again, a midfielder defensive midfielder we have smith pack and brownhill - we don't have Smith, Brownhill and Pack are adequate at this level but there is no equal cover attacking midfield we have Sammie pato and wienman - Patterson was a passenger for a lot of last season and I see no reason to think it won't be the same again, Weimann is much better when utilised up top imo, Szmodics is jumping two divisions and unproven at this level upfront we are light but 1 striker will cover that - we really need 2 strikers with caveat that Semenyo may come good (have a good feeling that he might) I'm not negative as there is still a way to go in the window and I'm sure we will get a few more in. But equally, I see nothing to get excited about for next season at this moment in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: Can’t agree this league will never be week, It’s fast becoming a two tier championship with the haves and have nots we are the Everton of the championship, not as rich as the top teams due to limitations in revenue which we are putting right but we aren’t in the lower tier like say millwall and Barnsley (no disrespect intended) Yeah I think you're right, although checking the odds the bookies have teams like Forest and Preston above us as well as Wednesday (who are very inconsistent). Not sure why, just have a rather good feeling about this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedDave said: Blimey. That’s an incredibly negative opinion. Our squad has strengthened and our first XI is pretty much the same so would be very surprised if this current squad was near the bottom. I'd be very surprised to see us near the bottom as well - as I said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield eastend Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I know Fammy divides opinions but if he’d of not been suspended for the 1st 6 matches he could of made a difference in the 1st 3 matches ie Forest ( d ) Bolton ( d ) Middlesbrough ( L ) , total goals he scored then nearer 20 and automatic this year , just a thought !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 As it stands I’d say we’re about the same. Need a quality midfielder and forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Right back we have brownhill and vyner to cover left back we have Rowe to cover defensive midfielder we have smith pack and brownhill attacking midfield we have Sammie pato and wienman upfront we are light but 1 striker will cover that You can’t really have Smith in that list. He won’t be fully fit and back to his possible best near Christmas. We look pretty thin in midfield and that’s the area I really want to see us strengthen. Pack had bad spells last season and we can’t afford that to happen again if we want to push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 As others have said, a good striker (better and more clinical than Fam) will make a huge difference. You could argue, as things stand, we're merely consolidating what we had last season. Although it's not that simple. Dasilva was playing his first ever season in the Champ. And got better and better. Webster (if he stays) will continue to improve. I still feel like a creative midfielder is as important as another striker. Someone to offer something a little different. I remain unconvinced that Palmer is that person, should he sign. Brownhill drives the midfield forward, but was clearly knackered by March. Pack rarely offers much as an attacking threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 "I knew the group were that competitive it could have got punchy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Worth considering that our players all have another years experience after a good season last year, and the league looks weaker on paper for next season. I think this squad we have now would have every chance of top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelbcfc Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I think we will sign a striker and get rid of some of the fringe players. We can also loan in a couple and that will be enough to push the top 2 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Semenyo will be a big difference imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Can’t agree this league will never be week, It’s fast becoming a two tier championship with the haves and have nots we are the Everton of the championship, not as rich as the top teams due to limitations in revenue which we are putting right but we aren’t in the lower tier like say millwall and Barnsley (no disrespect intended) Spurs were once in the same position as Everton, those two were always the `nearly` men in the top division - unlikely to go down but not really troubling the big boys. Spurs have found a way to move up a level and that is what we have to do in our league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: Are we better or worse off than last season, as it stands ? Does anyone think top six is possible if we don’t make any further additions ? As we stand we'll fall short again.. Not enough goals in the side for top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 We were a result here or there from play offs last season and we've got back to basically having the same starting XI now so I think we've got a very good chance already, add that I think the division looks weaker this season. From the play off teams, PCDC need to get going quickly, Leeds if they lose Kalvin Phillips could struggle and Bielsa never stays with a club for too long either, don't think he's stayed at a club for more than 2 seasons. West Brom could be the interesting one. Coming down Fulham - who will they have around, Cardiff - should be alright, Huddersfield - ???? The wildcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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