BCFCGav Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lucan said: Nah. I would rather just treat it as normal and not race to OTIB and make a post to show how woke I am By all means, don't post about it. No problem. But if other people want to (especially on a thread about it...), don't call them out on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, RedDave said: Since Brexit I’ve known of a few racist incidents at Ashton Gate. Wolves last season, Cardiff season before are the two I can remember the specific game. Hadn’t heard any for years before Brexit. Racist towards players?or chants about that places those teams are from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Lucan said: Raced...? This topic is weeks old you daft fool You've been following this thread from day one in a darkened room, taking your anti-woke fury out on your cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Lucan said: Got me! God I need some actual football to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, paul_fox said: Racist towards players?or chants about that places those teams are from? Towards players. I confronted two men against Cardiff myself and got no back up from other city fans, the steward didn’t want to know and (going by their lack of correspondence with me) neither did the club afterwards. I am surprised if anyone doesn’t realise that racism is on the rise. Seems quite a blinkered view. Many callers into LBC and the like have said how they have received more abuse since Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, RedDave said: It’s not nonsense if it’s relevant. After Brexit racism has been on the rise in this country. That’s an appropriate point to make. It just doesn’t fit your agenda so you don’t like it. Unlike you , I havnt got any agenda . I couldn’t give a flying **** about Brexit or politics full stop There is one poster on the forum who stands out as having a political agenda and including showing it it on as many threads as possible Football has come on in massive leaps n bounds regarding racism As somebody who’s been in the terraces for 40 odd years football is a relative church now I seriously can’t recall the last time I’ve heard anything mumbled let alone shouted or chanted at football that could be constituted as racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Unlike you , I havnt got any agenda . I couldn’t give a flying **** about Brexit or politics full stop There is one poster on the forum who stands out as having a political agenda and including showing it it on as many threads as possible You couldn’t give a flying **** about brexit or politics? Im surprised you don’t care about what happens to your country really, whatever your stance the fact we have a democracy where everyone has a voice is something we should be proud of. To not care about that is sad to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, JBFC II said: You couldn’t give a flying **** about brexit or politics? Im surprised you don’t care about what happens to your country really, whatever your stance the fact we have a democracy where everyone has a voice is something we should be proud of. To not care about that is sad to be honest No I dont And when you’ve lived life a tad longer , finished University , and step into the real world for a few decades , you might not either Anyway I needn’t worry - RedDave is on his one man crusade to change the world from his HQ in St George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: No I dont And when you’ve lived life a tad longer , finished University , and step into the real world for a few decades , you might not either Very weird way of looking at things. Personally I think it’s important to have a voice and use our democracy, something that my ancestors have fought and died for Each to their own though I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: Very weird way of looking at things. Personally I think it’s important to have a voice and use our democracy, something that my ancestors have fought and died for Each to their own though I suppose Opinions are often better based on actual experience , not tutors views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: No I dont And when you’ve lived life a tad longer , finished University , and step into the real world for a few decades , you might not either Exactly. Eventually he'll realise that all that we perceive is illusory, that we're all just part of an atomic soup, and that nothing can be truly known. That's what you meant, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Opinions are often better based on actual experience , not tutors views Completely agree, hence why I haven’t been influenced politically by any tutor and am basing my opinions off of my admittedly limited experience. Thanks for the patronising advice though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, paul_fox said: Maybe i worded it wrong. But yeah I know a lot of the gay community don't like the attention etc. Possibly a pr stunt by a group or media to get others to come out as they'd be all over it whilst most fans wouldn't really care I think it's much more likely that the individual in question couldn't go through with it. Whatever people say about fans not caring, they will get abuse. They'll get abuse from opposition fans if they're playing well, they'll get abuse from their own fans if they're playing poorly. The media and trolls on Twitter will harass them and their family. I'm not sure why anyone would think this would be the "so what?" occurrence that it should be. That's not all aimed at you btw; there are plenty of people who seem to think a footballer coming out as gay would pass without incident, but it won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I think all the new 'gender identities' that keep cropping up are already painting people in the LGBTQ+ as attention seekers. I know several people in that community who aren't happy about it. What 'new' gender identities.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I think all the new 'gender identities' that keep cropping up are already painting people in the LGBTQ+ as attention seekers. I know several people in that community who aren't happy about it. What is the Q bit? I am a bit behind the times, I thought it was just LGBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, RedDave said: Since Brexit I’ve known of a few racist incidents at Ashton Gate. Wolves last season, Cardiff season before are the two I can remember the specific game. Hadn’t heard any for years before Brexit. How ******* stupid is it to link incidents at AG to Brexit. Presumably the offenders told you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, JBFC II said: Very weird way of looking at things. Personally I think it’s important to have a voice and use our democracy, something that my ancestors have fought and died for Each to their own though I suppose That democratic vote didn't go down too well with some mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Lucan said: So now the obvious wind up has been put on ice, can OTIB members now stop competing to show how cool they are with the world of LGBTQIAPK+ ...? The number of posts on here from people just itching to show how open minded they are just makes me cringe 9 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: What is the Q bit? I am a bit behind the times, I thought it was just LGBT. LGBTQIAPK - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Queer, Intersex, Asexual, Pansexual and Kinkiness. Some abbreviations drop the K and add a Q for Questioning and a A for Ally (straight people that support gay rights) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: What is the Q bit? I am a bit behind the times, I thought it was just LGBT. Behind the times? I'm still at male and female! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Loon plage said: That democratic vote didn't go down too well with some mind... MPs mainly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 LGBTQIAPK Wouldn't want to get those letters on Countdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Big C said: LGBTQIAPK Wouldn't want to get those letters on Countdown You would if you were Polish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Unlike you , I havnt got any agenda . I couldn’t give a flying **** about Brexit or politics full stop There is one poster on the forum who stands out as having a political agenda and including showing it it on as many threads as possible Football has come on in massive leaps n bounds regarding racism As somebody who’s been in the terraces for 40 odd years football is a relative church now I seriously can’t recall the last time I’ve heard anything mumbled let alone shouted or chanted at football that could be constituted as racist Your agenda is to wind people up as far as I can tell. I only usually talk politics on political threads but this point is relevant on this one 46 minutes ago, Loon plage said: How ******* stupid is it to link incidents at AG to Brexit. Presumably the offenders told you ? Racism in general is on the increase. If you don’t know that then you are the stupid one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: What 'new' gender identities.. Sorry, I should've said sexual identities. Pan-romantic, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, downendcity said: You would if you were Polish! Racist. Brexit’s fault, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Sorry, I should've said sexual identities. Pan-romantic, etc Wtf is pan-romantic? No wonder the bloke hasn't come out, he probably can't work out what slot he fits in (if you will pardon the inuendo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Septic Peg said: LGBTQIAPK - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Queer, Intersex, Asexual, Pansexual and Kinkiness. Some abbreviations drop the K and add a Q for Questioning and a A for Ally (straight people that support gay rights) Is that serious? Or have I been whooshed? I thought queer was a derogatory term for a homosexual. And why isn't homosexual in the list? And what is intersex? Edit Bloody hell. I just googled it and it is all real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: Is that serious? Or have I been whooshed? I thought queer was a derogatory term for a homosexual. And why isn't homosexual in the list? And what is intersex? Edit Bloody hell. I just googled it and it is all real. The whole thing is merely a fabrication by manufacturers of flags and banners so that people have to buy knew ones each year. It isn't one big happy family either; there was considerable opposition when the Chief Exec of Stonewall decided to add the T to LGB in 2015 because T by allowing self-selection of gender was thought to be in conflict with LGB which strongly equates sex with gender and the sometimes violent conflicts continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: The whole thing is merely a fabrication by manufacturers of flags and banners so that people have to buy knew ones each year. It isn't one big happy family either; there was considerable opposition when the Chief Exec of Stonewall decided to add the T to LGB in 2015 because T by allowing self-selection of gender was thought to be in conflict with LGB which strongly equates sex with gender and the sometimes violent conflicts continue. While it’s true that it’s not always a happy family, “LGBT” has been around since at least the 1990s, not 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: Wtf is pan-romantic? It's like new romantics, but they enjoy the novels of JM Barrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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