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21 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

That’s it we are al doomed then 

 

 

You think that it’s worse now than the 90s 80s 70s do you ?

Do you ? 

im sure a literate like you will realise that for one they changed what is regarded as a racist incident for recording purposes do you ?

Unsurprisingly that effects the figures you rely on so heavily

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So you don’t actually have anything beyond what you’ve seen with your own eyes at Ashton Gate - very convincing.

While I write this, ITV London is showing a report with Asian amateur players who say they’ve been targeted more in recent years, and it seems to have coincided with Brexit.

Are you saying you’re right and they’re wrong?

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1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said:

It’s not though, is it..?

We now have a man in charge of our country who not one single member of the general public has voted to be put there. 

How is that democracy serving the nation well..?! 

That’s the system we have in place. 

We could have a Presidential system if you so wished, but that obviously has its flaws

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13 minutes ago, Robin1988 said:

So you don’t actually have anything beyond what you’ve seen with your own eyes at Ashton Gate - very convincing.

While I write this, ITV London is showing a report with Asian amateur players who say they’ve been targeted more in recent years, and it seems to have coincided with Brexit.

Are you saying you’re right and they’re wrong?

That’s it then , if some Asian amateur players somewhere say they’ve been targeted , it’s all down to Brexit and the country is doomed

I do laugh at all you Brexit obsessives 

 

Btw - I assume you are well versed to all the figures you seem to rely on so heavily , and their breakdown and the effect for example of social media in the number of ‘incidents’ ?

 

 

Nahhhhh Thought not

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8 hours ago, RedDave said:

It’s not nonsense if it’s relevant. After Brexit racism has been on the rise in this country.  That’s an appropriate point to make. It just doesn’t fit your agenda so you don’t like it. 

Correlation v Causation. Brexit voters were not racist nor did the vote mandate racism. From a full blown Remoaner. 

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5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

That’s it then , if some Asian amateur players somewhere say they’ve been targeted , it’s all down to Brexit and the country is doomed

I do laugh at all you Brexit obsessives 

If "my anecdotal evidence is right but anecdotal evidence people who would actually be affected by racism is wrong" is the bar we've dropped to then it's probably time to give up.

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21 minutes ago, 29AR said:

Correlation v Causation. Brexit voters were not racist nor did the vote mandate racism. From a full blown Remoaner. 

It’s difficult to prove but it does seem logical that since people like Farage and people more extreme than him have become part of the mainstream, it does enable these kind of incidents.

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1 hour ago, James54De said:

Ummm. As far as I’m aware Tory members are still the ‘general public’

Then you don’t know what you are talking about mate..! 

So the general public select Bristol City’s match day line up, because LJ is a member of the public...?! 

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1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said:

It’s not though, is it..?

We now have a man in charge of our country who not one single member of the general public has voted to be put there. 

How is that democracy serving the nation well..?! 

Are the 160k members of the Conservative party not also 'members of the general public'?

 

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1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said:

Gordon Brown ring any bells? 

Absolutely..! It’s not a new thing that the democratic system in this country is a joke. 

 

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36 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

That’s the system we have in place. 

We could have a Presidential system if you so wished, but that obviously has its flaws

I don’t favour any system. It’s all flawed. But for somebody to be in power, who wasn’t voted into power... the system is a joke. 

I will vote in an election when I’m given a box to tick that selects “none of the above”

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3 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Are the 160k members of the Conservative party not also 'members of the general public'?

 

No, they are members of the Conservative party, in this instance. 

Do you honestly think that Boris, or whoever else was promoted, is a good example of our supposedly democratic system..?

The person who is now in charge of our country has not been voted in by IT’S people. Only by HIS people. 

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9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I don’t favour any system. It’s all flawed. But for somebody to be in power, who wasn’t voted into power... the system is a joke. 

I will vote in an election when I’m given a box to tick that selects “none of the above”

It’s the only way to do it though, the leader of the Conservative party is voted for by the Conversative Party members. 

The fact that the Conservatives are currently the leading party has absolutely no effect on that

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2 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

It’s the only way to do it though, the leader of the Conservative party is voted for by the Conversative Party members. 

The fact that the Conservatives are currently the leading party has absolutely no effect on that

No, I know that... 

... but “the people” don’t have the leader that they voted in. 

That is not democracy. 

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36 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Then you don’t know what you are talking about mate..! 

So the general public select Bristol City’s match day line up, because LJ is a member of the public...?! 

The **** you on about you clown? 

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2 minutes ago, James54De said:

The **** you on about you clown? 

I was giving an example of how a person/group of people don’t reflect the general public, just because they are a member of the general public. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I was giving an example of how a person/group of people don’t reflect the general public, just because they are a member of the general public. 

 

No, you said that they weren’t members of the general public, which they are. 

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10 minutes ago, James54De said:

No, you said that they weren’t members of the general public, which they are. 

Of course they are members of the general public. But they weren’t given the powers to select the new head of the country, as members of the general public, were they..?! 

Being a member of the general public, who is allowed to vote on something, is very different to the general public being able to vote on that same thing. 

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12 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said:

The whole thing is merely a fabrication by manufacturers of flags and banners so that people have to buy knew ones each year.

It isn't one big happy family either; there was considerable opposition when the Chief Exec of Stonewall decided to add the T to LGB in 2015 because T by allowing self-selection of gender was thought to be in conflict with LGB which strongly equates sex with gender and the sometimes violent conflicts continue.

Enough of your nonsense 

There wouldnt be a modern lgbt movement without the T.  Google Marsha P Johnson and try again.

Lgbt has been a thing for years. 

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7 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

No, I know that... 

... but “the people” don’t have the leader that they voted in. 

That is not democracy. 

We didn’t vote in a leader, we voted in a party.  It’s not at all complicated but morons always roll out the “unelected leader” tripe when it suits them.

if you don’t understand how voting in a GE works I’ll happily lend you a book or two

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8 minutes ago, Lucan said:

We didn’t vote in a leader, we voted in a party.  It’s not at all complicated but morons always roll out the “unelected leader” tripe when it suits them.

if you don’t understand how voting in a GE works I’ll happily lend you a book or two

I can think of at least one moron who doesn't understand it.

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34 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

I can think of at least one moron who doesn't understand it.

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Oh I didn't realise that Boris Johnson's thoughts from 11 years ago were now used as the basis for parliamentary constitution.

If you can't see that quote is a blatant piece of propoganda used to score points when it suited him there is no hope...

 

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41 minutes ago, Lucan said:

We didn’t vote in a leader, we voted in a party.  It’s not at all complicated but morons always roll out the “unelected leader” tripe when it suits them.

if you don’t understand how voting in a GE works I’ll happily lend you a book or two

I do understand that, but appreciate your offer of guidance...!

It sounds to me like you and many other Tory or anti Corbyn/Labour (and I’m definitely anti Corbyn) supporters are getting extremely defensive over Boris. 

As the poster above has shown, Boris himself agrees with exactly what I’m saying, or at least he did until it didn’t serve his own best interests. 

I’m not pro Tory/Labour/Green party/UKIP or any other bunch of self serving, lying hypocrites. 

I am strongly anti all of them, and the failing democratic system. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Lucan said:

Oh I didn't realise that Boris Johnson's thoughts from 11 years ago were now used as the basis for parliamentary constitution.

If you can't see that quote is a blatant piece of propoganda used to score points when it suited him there is no hope...

 

Exactly..! It’s all about what suits “him/them” best at any given time. Not the best interests of “the people”. 

The whole system & establishment are floored, imo. 

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12 minutes ago, Lucan said:

Oh I didn't realise that Boris Johnson's thoughts from 11 years ago were now used as the basis for parliamentary constitution.

If you can't see that quote is a blatant piece of propoganda used to score points when it suited him there is no hope...

 

Oh I didn’t realise that I had suggested basing a parliamentary constitution on what Boris said. I thought I was just pointing out the rank hypocrisy of the new PM.

But don’t worry, there is hope! I can see that his 2007 Telegraph article was only used to score points. That’s why I posted it, it’s a perfect quote to use to score points against Johnson.

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8 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

Oh I didn’t realise that I had suggested basing a parliamentary constitution on what Boris said. I thought I was just pointing out the rank hypocrisy of the new PM.

But don’t worry, there is hope! I can see that his 2007 Telegraph article was only used to score points. That’s why I posted it, it’s a perfect quote to use to score points against Johnson.

All completely irrelevant to my original post. Go and have a lie down, you're clearly emotional...

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8 minutes ago, Lucan said:

All completely irrelevant to my original post. Go and have a lie down, you're clearly emotional...

No emotion here other than a slight sense of pity for your failure to understand relevance.

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9 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

No, they are members of the Conservative party, in this instance. 

Do you honestly think that Boris, or whoever else was promoted, is a good example of our supposedly democratic system..?

The person who is now in charge of our country has not been voted in by IT’S people. Only by HIS people. 

We don't have a presidential system.

The government were tasked by the people, by the result of the referendum, to get Britain out of the EU, and had absolutely promised to do so.

When the government give the electorate a direct choice with a referendum they are solemnly obliged to enact the result, and Teresa May was clearly incapable of doing that.

We now have a PM in situ who says he is absolutely determined to deliver the result of the democratic vote so I'm sure all those who value democracy will wish him well in doing so.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

We don't have a presidential system.

The government were tasked by the people, by the result of the referendum, to get Britain out of the EU, and had absolutely promised to do so.

When the government give the electorate a direct choice with a referendum they are solemnly obliged to enact the result, and Teresa May was clearly incapable of doing that.

We now have a PM in situ who says he is absolutely determined to deliver the result of the democratic vote so I'm sure all those who value democracy will wish him well in doing so.

 

 

Naughty Noggers! I think you know there's a bit more nuance than that!

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Haha, looks like this thread has gone a bit off-topic!

Anyway, Jim White, the journalist with TalkSport that had allegedly spoke with this person via DM has gone incredibly quiet, so I'm starting to believe that the wool has been pulled over his eyes and he's too ashamed to admit it. If his Twitter replies are anything to go by it's given his reputation a bit of a kicking.

Not to name names, but if you dig deep enough on Twitter, a name keeps being passed around as the person behind the hoax, and that person has received a lot of hate, while not denying that they were involved. It wouldn't surprise me if this person ended up deleting their account or taking their real name off of the account to ensure that hate doesn't follow them around to real life.

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2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

We don't have a presidential system.

The government were tasked by the people, by the result of the referendum, to get Britain out of the EU, and had absolutely promised to do so.

When the government give the electorate a direct choice with a referendum they are solemnly obliged to enact the result, and Teresa May was clearly incapable of doing that.

We now have a PM in situ who says he is absolutely determined to deliver the result of the democratic vote so I'm sure all those who value democracy will wish him well in doing so.

 

 

Yes, granted... he is (hopefully) better skilled to deliver a suitable Brexit solution. However I do think that’s a separate point to my issues that the person who now heads our country, as a whole - not just for a solution to Brexit - has not been voted into that position by way of a democratic process. 

It’s nothing against Boris, per say, I just don’t think any Prime minister, be they Labour, Tory or the Monster raving looney party, should “acquire” that position because of an in house vote amongst their colleagues..! 

 

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12 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Yes, granted... he is (hopefully) better skilled to deliver a suitable Brexit solution. However I do think that’s a separate point to my issues that the person who now heads our country, as a whole - not just for a solution to Brexit - has not been voted into that position by way of a democratic process. 

It’s nothing against Boris, per say, I just don’t think any Prime minister, be they Labour, Tory or the Monster raving looney party, should “acquire” that position because of an in house vote amongst their colleagues..! 

 

Boris has been democratically elected by the members of the party the country democratically put into power.

 

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22 hours ago, Lucan said:

The number of posts on here from people just itching to show how open minded they are just makes me cringe

When was the last time you actually cringed, like reeeally?

Your post makes you seem worse, trying to tower above those you're talking about as if your voice matters more. Stop being a dick to people who are just posting their stance on a message board. That's what message boards are for, opinion and debate. 

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4 minutes ago, TBW said:

When was the last time you actually cringed, like reeeally?

Your post makes you seem worse, trying to tower above those you're talking about as if your voice matters more. Stop being a dick to people who are just posting their stance on a message board.That's what message boards are for, opinion and debate. 

 I'm putting forward my opinion.  "That's what message boards are for, opinion and debate."

Don't bother to engage with me again until you have something useful to add, I have no time for lightweight banter with someone like you

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13 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Boris has been democratically elected by the members of the party the country democratically put into power.

 

Yes, the Tories are democratically elected, whether people like that or not. 

Boris hasn’t been democratically voted into power as our Prime minister though. He’s been promoted from within, whether the general public of this country like it or not - whoever they voted for at the last general election, they did not vote for a party with Boris at the head of it. 

Anyway, a difference of opinion on the matter is fine. I really don’t care too much because, imo, there are no decent alternatives, from any party. 

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7 minutes ago, Lucan said:

 I'm putting forward my opinion.  "That's what message boards are for, opinion and debate."

Don't bother to engage with me again until you have something useful to add, I have no time for lightweight banter with someone like you

You're not though, you're personally attacking people for putting forward their stance. Sure, the attack is just backhanded comments but it's still there nonetheless. 

Nice effort to come back though... now,

Don't bother to engage with me again until you have something useful to add, I have no time for lightweight banter with someone like you.

(See, we can all be a dismissive dick.)

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25 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Boris has been democratically elected by the members of the party the country democratically put into power.

 

Boris has been democratically elected by the members of the party that did not get enough votes from the country to govern and so had to agree to pay £1billion to N Ireland in order for the DUP to agree to help prop them up.

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2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Yes, the Tories are democratically elected, whether people like that or not. 

I think it's fair to say the ones who didn't vote Conservative don't like it. ;)

The ones who did vote Conservative are likely to be happier today as they voted for a party promising at the last election to deliver Brexit and there is now a PM in place stating his absolute determination to carry out that mandate.

A solemn promise made by Labour as well of course, but that's a different story.

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7 minutes ago, TBW said:

You're not though, you're personally attacking people for putting forward their stance. Sure, the attack is just backhanded comments but it's still there nonetheless. 

 

I'll make sure to run future posts via your bedwetter's sensitivity moderation panel next time 

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1 minute ago, BS2 Red said:

Boris has been democratically elected by the members of the party that did not get enough votes from the country to govern and so had to agree to pay £1billion to N Ireland in order for the DUP to agree to help prop them up.

Historically all parties will assume power by hook or by crook, that's the way it goes.

The key thing here is the country voted to get out of the widely despised E. Union, and undemocratic powers working against the people have done everything possible to thwart that mandate.

We now at last have a leader saying with conviction he will deliver on the vote of the people.

That's something all democrats - whether Leave or Remain voters originally - should support.

Let's wish Boris every success on finally delivering on the referendum result.

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8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Historically all parties will assume power by hook or by crook, that's the way it goes.

The key thing here is the country voted to get out of the widely despised E. Union, and undemocratic powers working against the people have done everything possible to thwart that mandate.

We now at last have a leader saying with conviction he will deliver on the vote of the people.

That's something all democrats - whether Leave or Remain voters originally - should support.

Let's wish Boris every success on finally delivering on the referendum result.

Historically parties win a majority and are able to govern. The Tories won more seats than anybody else, but they certainly didn’t win the 2017 elections. Going cap in hand to the DUP is not winning.

And as the majority now support remaining in the EU, the democratic thing to do is to put the question back to the people.

 

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I keep clicking on replies and forgetting what thread this is.  If you want to chat about the EU/Brexit then I am happy to in the Brexit thread but I will stop replying in here before we get even more off topic!

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27 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

Historically parties win a majority and are able to govern. The Tories won more seats than anybody else, but they certainly didn’t win the 2017 elections. Going cap in hand to the DUP is not winning.

And as the majority now support remaining in the EU, the democratic thing to do is to put the question back to the people.

Sure they do, just like the polls said remain would win the referendum.

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We can all agree we live in a parliamentary democracy where we don’t directly elect the Prime Minister.

However,  I think some posters are being a bit dishonest suggesting the national leader doesn’t have a significant influence on the majority of votes that are cast in any UK General Election. Certainly, it’s what gets brought out every day when people have compared the reigns of May and Corbyn over the last three years.

With that in mind, I think there is a strong argument that without calling a GE, in reality if not technically, Boris’ mandate is at best compromised.

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On 15/07/2019 at 18:13, soultrader said:

On the upside you lefties have a massive advantage in boxing !

apparently one of the only sports where it is a big advantage

 

having boxed myself I can attest to this

but if you don’t believe me, google it and see how many left handed world champs there have been.  A disproportionate amount when compared to the percentage of lefties in the population   

 

 

Cricket is very similar.

I'll give you David Gower for starters, but just have a glance at Wisden (or Google?) - it just seems that the majority of flamboyant batsmen appear to have been left-handed: there have also been quite a few gifted left-handed bowlers 😉.

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