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JulieH

Policing at Football

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6 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said:

@JulieH

Why are there two officers on horses blocking one of the entrances to the park? 

Totally pointless. 

I imagine because the park was where it kicked off after the game last year and they wanted to manage the volume of people getting in.

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7 minutes ago, Redinthehead said:

I imagine because the park was where it kicked off after the game last year and they wanted to manage the volume of people getting in.

They did not stop people entering the park, they just stopped them going in that particular entrance. 

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2 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said:

They did not stop people entering the park, they just stopped them going in that particular entrance. 

Yes but blocking the entrance nearest the exit to the ground allows them to manage people going in. People can jump over the walls etc but it helps them manage things to an extent.

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1 minute ago, Redinthehead said:

Yes but blocking the entrance nearest the exit to the ground allows them to manage people going in. People can jump over the walls etc but it helps them manage things to an extent.

They're just being an irritant/inconvenience. There's no need for it. 

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4 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said:

They're just being an irritant/inconvenience. There's no need for it. 

Can you seriously not see how blocking one entrance to somewhere manages the flow of people?

If you found it irritating or an inconveniencing then blame the idiots who kicked off in the park that mean the police need to do things like this. Pretty sure the police didn’t wake up this morning and say ‘how can we irritate Chris_Brown today?’

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Spanish inquisition for me over by coronation road. 

Walked there to meet my 81 yr old father whilst we waited for a lift. 

Questioned by PC Plod if i was Swansea or City ( whilst wearing my city shirt). 🤔

Told him not to be so jumpy and looking for something that isnt there!!

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2 minutes ago, Redinthehead said:

Can you seriously not see how blocking one entrance to somewhere manages the flow of people?

If you found it irritating or an inconveniencing then blame the idiots who kicked off in the park that mean the police need to do things like this. Pretty sure the police didn’t wake up this morning and say ‘how can we irritate Chris_Brown today?’

Okay. Sorry my question upset you so much. 

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1 minute ago, Chris_Brown said:

Okay. Sorry my question upset you so much. 

I’m not upset - I just don’t see how it’s so hard to understand and why you have to bring a persecution complex into it.

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I thought the police did well today unless there was something I missed.

Biggest problem I saw was a pissed up ideot outside BS3. 

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Honestly thought it was policed well today, a lot of Swansea on my train to parson Street police at the top of the steps seperate them from us with no issues, taking them to the ground in an escort about 15 mins later, all very carm and we'll done, looks like they learnt from last season mess, 

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Plenty of sirens and rushing about as I left Bower Ashton and headed up towards Temple Meads but it all seemed reasonably friendly around and about. 

I did have a small smile to myself as I waited at the lights by the Peugeot Garage when the away fans escort came walking up. There was two vans and around 10 to 15 police escorting approximately 20 to 30 Swansea fans. Every policeman / woman was engaged in conversation with one or two fans. It looked like a friendly walk out in the countryside. 

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2 hours ago, nickolas said:

Spanish inquisition for me over by coronation road. 

Walked there to meet my 81 yr old father whilst we waited for a lift. 

Questioned by PC Plod if i was Swansea or City ( whilst wearing my city shirt). 🤔

Told him not to be so jumpy and looking for something that isnt there!!

Sorry about this, not all pc plods today were from Avon and Somerset so unfortunately can't rely on local knowledge to spot the shirt. 

Nice to see we were out the vans chatting to fans 👍

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1 hour ago, winsaw said:

Honestly thought it was policed well today, a lot of Swansea on my train to parson Street police at the top of the steps seperate them from us with no issues, taking them to the ground in an escort about 15 mins later, all very carm and we'll done, looks like they learnt from last season mess, 

Thank you .

 

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9 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

Plenty of sirens and rushing about as I left Bower Ashton and headed up towards Temple Meads but it all seemed reasonably friendly around and about. 

I did have a small smile to myself as I waited at the lights by the Peugeot Garage when the away fans escort came walking up. There was two vans and around 10 to 15 police escorting approximately 20 to 30 Swansea fans. Every policeman / woman was engaged in conversation with on or two fans. It looked like a friendly walk out in the countryside. 

Thank you very much, exactly how policing at football  should be , I will ensure it gets fed back in . 

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1 hour ago, luke_bristol said:

Hopefully no one let themselves or the club down today by throwing an empty paper cup.

Just one male arrested from Swansea from Ashton road prematch .

currently still in custody with us 

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Cheers Julie. Honestly made me smile. Saw no trouble at all and every one in the group was engaged in conversation. Couldn't tell what they were talking about as I was listening to Radio Bristol obviously. 

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 I thought some of those overweight taffs giving it the big un ‘Come On’ from the back of a pretty empty block close to the Dolman

and 30m from the Atyeo / Dolman divide and Stewars , Police etc etc were really really scary !

 

Truly laughable  🤣

 

Police seemed to have done a good job and had it all buttoned up nicely today  (* Edit - Maybe not - See Robin Woods post below !)

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1 minute ago, Midlands Robin said:

Cheers Julie. Honestly made me smile. Saw no trouble at all and every one in the group was engaged in conversation. Couldn't tell what they were talking about as I was listening to Radio Bristol obviously. 

🤣

Probably discussing how long it took them to drive up from Devon and Cornwall I expect 😂

i am genuinely pleased with these observations, particularly with the incidents from last year, both the police, the club and fans groups were keen to move on from that and it seems so far to have been the case 

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1 minute ago, JulieH said:

Thank you very much, exactly how policing at football  should be , I will ensure it gets fed back in . 

Well a shame you couldn't police the park we were attacked by Swansea fans intent on trouble and we are in our fiftys well done Swansea and asp

 

Swansea fans intent 

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Glad nothing happened. Driving back down Coronation Road, it looked like WW3 was breaking out - 3 Heddlu vans racing down the wrong side of the road near Asda, only to cross Bedminster bridge and go back the way they came. Then 3 dog vans coming out of Bedminster going the same way. All for nothing, then?

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10 minutes ago, h hills left shoe said:

Was that the **** in the mustard top who thought he could take on everyone and threw the ashtray?

I gave a passing copper a heads up about that, the guy deserved a slap but was worried he was gonna get himself seriously hurt.

As an aside did you see the state of the punches he threw? Seen faster moving snails!

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39 minutes ago, JulieH said:

Sorry about this, not all pc plods today were from Avon and Somerset so unfortunately can't rely on local knowledge to spot the shirt. 

Nice to see we were out the vans chatting to fans 👍

Oh you were all out for sure!! Lining the streets! 😂

better than letting trouble flare up but little old me by myself wasnt going to get up to much!! 

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38 minutes ago, JulieH said:

Sorry about this, not all pc plods today were from Avon and Somerset so unfortunately can't rely on local knowledge to spot the shirt  

So the pre match briefing showed them all 92 league clubs’ home, away and third choice shirts and the numpties couldn’t remember  which one of the two hundred and seventy six was the Bristol City home shirt. Do me a favour !!!!!

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5 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

I gave a passing copper a heads up about that, the guy deserved a slap but was worried he was gonna get himself seriously hurt.

As an aside did you see the state of the punches he threw? Seen faster moving snails!

He was lucky that more didn't join in! He would have had a good hiding!someone said that he was Swansea's main boy!

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30 minutes ago, h hills left shoe said:

Was that the **** in the mustard top who thought he could take on everyone and threw the ashtray?

Yes it was 

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18 minutes ago, Fatalist said:

Glad nothing happened. Driving back down Coronation Road, it looked like WW3 was breaking out - 3 Heddlu vans racing down the wrong side of the road near Asda, only to cross Bedminster bridge and go back the way they came. Then 3 dog vans coming out of Bedminster going the same way. All for nothing, then?

Just trying to get ahead of a group of Swansea fans on way back to station to ensure roads and side streets were clear of anyone who may wish to engage with them in a non friendly way , normal practice but unfortunately lights and sirens needed to battle through traffic 

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34 minutes ago, h hills left shoe said:

Was that the **** in the mustard top who thought he could take on everyone and threw the ashtray?

Yes probably  outside bs3 before  game not one copper insight  🤔

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18 minutes ago, JulieH said:

Just trying to get ahead of a group of Swansea fans on way back to station to ensure roads and side streets were clear of anyone who may wish to engage with them in a non friendly way , normal practice but unfortunately lights and sirens needed to battle through traffic 

I have nothing but admiration for our wonderful and undervalued police service (shut up, i do and this is no creeping to JH  :laugh:)

You use as many lights and sirens as you like, it was bloody marvelous entertainment on my otherwise boring walk home.

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2 minutes ago, JulieH said:

Just trying to get ahead of a group of Swansea fans on way back to station to ensure roads and side streets were clear of anyone who may wish to engage with them in a non friendly way , normal practice but unfortunately lights and sirens needed to battle through traffic 

Somewhat brilliantly, the three police vans turned out of West Street and set their blues on to go the wrong side of the road, get ahead of the traffic and turn left towards the Malaga estate.

However, the queue of traffic was to go straight on. Had they fed into the left turn lane as I did they’d have seen no queue and been able to turn without the palaver. Hence why with no blues I was able to stay right behind them.

Maybe knowing the roads might be useful for the team in the future and prevent panic?

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11 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Somewhat brilliantly, the three police vans turned out of West Street and set their blues on to go the wrong side of the road, get ahead of the traffic and turn left towards the Malaga estate.

However, the queue of traffic was to go straight on. Had they fed into the left turn lane as I did they’d have seen no queue and been able to turn without the palaver. Hence why with no blues I was able to stay right behind them.

Maybe knowing the roads might be useful for the team in the future and prevent panic?

 We used today colleagues from South Wales , Devon and Cornwall and Wiltshire .We had guides on some of the vans but clearly not each van! 

We will get there!!! 

 

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22 minutes ago, JulieH said:

 We used today colleagues from South Wales , Devon and Cornwall and Wiltshire .We had guides on some of the vans but clearly not each van! 

We will get there!!! 

 

Christmas not too far away 😉😉😉

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2 hours ago, JulieH said:

 We used today colleagues from South Wales , Devon and Cornwall and Wiltshire .We had guides on some of the vans but clearly not each van! 

We will get there!!! 

 

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10 hours ago, JulieH said:

Thank you very much, exactly how policing at football  should be , I will ensure it gets fed back in . 

Yesterday was my 2nd trip to AG this year (Swansea fan) and to be fair to the police they on both occasions have been decent and not confrontational like you can see with some police forces around the country. 

Glad to see/hear there wasn’t any trouble and that’s down to the policing during the day. 

So well done and I had an enjoyable day in Bristol.

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6 hours ago, SX227 said:

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I’m not really sure how due to police cuts forces having to pool resources for events is a money making exercise. 

If the emergency services were funded properly they wouldn’t have to drag officers up from different places. 

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12 hours ago, JulieH said:

Just one male arrested from Swansea from Ashton road prematch .

currently still in custody with us 

If this was for the incident outside the Rising Sun pre match then this gentleman got exactly what he was looking for.

My son and I parked up at 12.30 by the Orchard and he and his mate were drunk then carrying glass pint pots down the street giving it the big one in their stone island . Later when we walked past the Rising Sun at 2.30 only to see them again brawling and shedding claret i did think to myself he will regret his actions when he looks in the mirror in the morning.

Nothing but a total idiot  I'm afraid.

 

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4 hours ago, AshtonPark said:

I’m not really sure how due to police cuts forces having to pool resources for events is a money making exercise. 

If the emergency services were funded properly they wouldn’t have to drag officers up from different places. 

There is definitely no money made by police from having to use other forces. 

It is always the last resort to use outside forces, and came after mandatory rest days being cancelled for some Bristol police ,

I feel the South Wales police unit  works really well to engage with their own fans and gives a familiar face to some. We also sent officers to Swansea last season to assist in policing city fans at their game in Swansea , worked well although again needed a local guide particularly as spent most of the time in Swansea city centre 😳

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One thing that amazed me yesterday was how two guys got into E34 with Swansea shirts on

Luckily we didn't have another Leeds incident 

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17 minutes ago, Meh said:

Sounds like things got a bit out of hand in west street last night - wtf goes on !!

Not football related 

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

One thing that amazed me yesterday was how two guys got into E34 with Swansea shirts on

Luckily we didn't have another Leeds incident 

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Pretty certain this fella was just cycling round BS3 area before the game... thought it was abit random tbh 

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Seemed to be policed very well. Except for 2 **** **** cops who saw fit to drive at est. 60/70mph down Greenway Bush Lane.

They're having a reckless laugh. 

Any child walking into the road (there were many about) woukd be history. 

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3 hours ago, Club and Country said:

Pretty certain this fella was just cycling round BS3 area before the game... thought it was abit random tbh 

Saw him riding down Glos Road at lunchtime whilst I was waiting for the bus, so he was definitely on a bike.  He looked harmless enough tbf but still a bit weird him being allowed to wear an opposition shirt in a home end. 

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