Red 90 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Goal Kick 'The ball is in play once the kick is taken, it can be played before leaving the penalty area' I had to admit, I didn't think this rule change would have much on an impact on the game. However, after now competing in pre season games I can see this rule having a real positive affect on the tempo of games. It really quickens play up and the ball seems to be back in play a LOT quicker than in previous seasons. I think teams with ball playing centre backs 'such as Webster' will really benefit from this. On the flip side, we play one up top the same as city with Fam and as you cannot enter the 18 yard box it makes it almost impossible to defend from the front from goal kicks and a lot more tiring for the strikers to try and chase down, as over 90 mins not one goal kick was kicked long. It will be interesting to see over the season how it will affect different teams, as IMO it will really help ball playing quick tempo teams like us but not old school route one teams such as Cardiff, especially even more so now with Aden at the back there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I don't think it made much difference in the Women's World Cup or the Copa America, from what I saw. But obviously, I'me sure that once the season gets going I'm sure teams will find various ways to gain a tactical advantage from the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 The reason they are introducing this rule is because they know var will slow the hell outta of the game so upping the tempo by introducing rules like this and making subs walk off where they are on the field of play etc will make time added on be just 10 minutes and not 15 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I don't see how this is really any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmering Red Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 It will also stop teams deliberately wasting time by defenders touching the ball before it clears the penalty area and then having to re take the goal kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 90 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, TBW said: I don't see how this is really any different. As you could previous block a pass, standing between say the RB and CB so there was no other option for the keeper other than to kick it long to the half way line - A defender can receive the ball inside the box so that pass is always on. Watching the game it may not appear that much of a difference, only time will tell. But what I can tell you from playing myself it has changed the pace of the play from goal kicks and the dynamics/tactics of play. It would be interesting to hear from anyone else on the forum who actually plays the game themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Angmering Red said: It will also stop teams deliberately wasting time by defenders touching the ball before it clears the penalty area and then having to re take the goal kick. That often-used, really annoying "trick"? I dont think I've ever seen a player do it to deliberately waste time neither through watching or playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I'm just waiting for someone to lose possession a few yards from goal and give a goal away. Any guesses who it might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 So a love-tap by a goalie to improve his distance for the "main kick" would now be fair game for an attacker to pounce on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, TBW said: I don't see how this is really any different. I think the difference is that Fielding can now pass the ball a few feet to Flint who can himself launch the ball into Row Z of the Dolman. What? What do you mean " Move on".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, Fatalist said: I'm just waiting for someone to lose possession a few yards from goal and give a goal away. Any guesses who it might be? Hopefully Flint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Yeah, I'm still not sure this is being explained very well... Maybe I thought this was already the rule anyway so it's just going straight over my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Wait till the sin bin comes in next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, TBW said: Yeah, I'm still not sure this is being explained very well... Maybe I thought this was already the rule anyway so it's just going straight over my head. Previously, if the ball was touched before it left the penalty area, then the goal-kick had to be retaken. Under the new rule, a defender can recieve the ball within the area, and the attacker has to remain outside until the kick is taken. So basically a defender can recieve the ball initially unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Speeds up the game? I bet our friend from over the bridge is well miffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I’d also like the rule to revert back to goal kicks having to be taken from the side of the goal where the ball went out. The rule as it is currently gives keepers license to waste time by jogging slowly to the other side of the six yard box to take the goal kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, elhombrecito said: Previously, if the ball was touched before it left the penalty area, then the goal-kick had to be retaken. Under the new rule, a defender can recieve the ball within the area, and the attacker has to remain outside until the kick is taken. So basically a defender can recieve the ball initially unchallenged. OK. Assuming as soon as he receives the ball it's then fair game. Would be entertaining to see the defender run around with it (in the box) for as long as he wants, unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TBW said: OK. Assuming as soon as he receives the ball it's then fair game. Would be entertaining to see the defender run around with it (in the box) for as long as he wants, unchallenged. Not sure that will be allowed. However, can a player tap it to the goalie and then he can pick it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 8 hours ago, TBW said: I don't see how this is really any different. It is significantly different. A player can receive the ball inside the box from his Keeper. The player can receive the ball in more space than he would from a free kick or as players formerly did dropping off to edge of the box to receive possession. It will favour teams that build from the back proficiently and teams with keepers of high footballing ability. The back pass rule change (92) lead to huge changes in the keepers game and this will alter further the % of time keepers play the ball with their feet v hands. CB's dropping into the box will create differing passing options as the full backs can utilise the space splitting CB's formerly occupied. In theory it appears it should be easier to utilise holding midfielders to play out as a pivot. At the very least the rule change at goal kicks gives the defending team differing questions as the offensive team have more space to play out with and the defending team more space to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cowshed said: It is significantly different. A player can receive the ball inside the box from his Keeper. The player can receive the ball in more space than he would from a free kick or as players formerly did dropping off to edge of the box to receive possession. It will favour teams that build from the back proficiently and teams with keepers of high footballing ability. The back pass rule change (92) lead to huge changes in the keepers game and this will alter further the % of time keepers play the ball with their feet v hands. CB's dropping into the box will create differing passing options as the full backs can utilise the space splitting CB's formerly occupied. In theory it appears it should be easier to utilise holding midfielders to play out as a pivot. At the very least the rule change at goal kicks gives the defending team differing questions as the offensive team have more space to play out with and the defending team more space to control. It is something I think people have to see to grasp. Watched some football over the summer and in the Gold Cup games(North American teams) they did this a lot. It makes the pitch bigger really. If you have any competence playing from the back you can draw in a press to basically where the goal kicks are taken. Also gives defenders that space to receive the ball. They can stand next to the keeper and just have it tapped to them like a kickoff. It will be interesting to see how it progresses over the season but I am sure we will utilise it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Chivs said: Not sure that will be allowed. However, can a player tap it to the goalie and then he can pick it up? Wouldn't that be a back pass? Same as if a player took a free kick from outside the box under the old rule and just kicked it back to the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Teams will still time waste under the new rule. Keeper looks to play it short then,, oh no, hang on I'll kick it long and then wait for defenders to move further up pitch. Bit like Fielding used to do with players looking for it short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, Cowshed said: It is significantly different. A player can receive the ball inside the box from his Keeper. The player can receive the ball in more space than he would from a free kick or as players formerly did dropping off to edge of the box to receive possession. It will favour teams that build from the back proficiently and teams with keepers of high footballing ability. The back pass rule change (92) lead to huge changes in the keepers game and this will alter further the % of time keepers play the ball with their feet v hands. CB's dropping into the box will create differing passing options as the full backs can utilise the space splitting CB's formerly occupied. In theory it appears it should be easier to utilise holding midfielders to play out as a pivot. At the very least the rule change at goal kicks gives the defending team differing questions as the offensive team have more space to play out with and the defending team more space to control. I see all the benefits to the side taking the goal kick. It will allow footballing teams to play it from the very back and hopefully less launching. The down side is that sooner or later, the defending team will goof up and with keeper and two defenders sat on their backsides, a very grateful lone striker will be adding another softie to his season's goals tally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 5 hours ago, elhombrecito said: Previously, if the ball was touched before it left the penalty area, then the goal-kick had to be retaken. Under the new rule, a defender can recieve the ball within the area, and the attacker has to remain outside until the kick is taken. So basically a defender can recieve the ball initially unchallenged. Looking forward to watching teams like Man City's approach to the new rule, look to play out but also Ederson so skilled with kicking and picking out long range balls, imagine they could well be working on plays to sucker in players before playing long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I think that the biggest rule change is that you can not put an attacker in the wall so no free kick is going to be as easy to score from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Goal keeper takes the goalkick to his defender in the box. Defender chips it up into the air and then heads it to the goalie. Goalie grasps the ball just as he's flattened by several overweight attackers running in from outside the penalty area. Ref calls for Var and after viewing decides it is inconclusive the goalie hadn't been feigning injury as he had thought. Ref blows up for the goalkick to be taken again. Goal keeper takes the goalkick to his defender in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, The Penguin said: Goal keeper takes the goalkick to his defender in the box. Defender chips it up into the air and then heads it to the goalie. Goalie grasps the ball just as he's flattened by several overweight attackers running in from outside the penalty area. Ref calls for Var and after viewing decides it is inconclusive the goalie hadn't been feigning injury as he had thought. Ref blows up for the goalkick to be taken again. Goal keeper takes the goalkick to his defender in the box. That's a cautionable offence, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Angmering Red said: It will also stop teams deliberately wasting time by defenders touching the ball before it clears the penalty area and then having to re take the goal kick. Preston be using this then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 17 hours ago, RedM said: Hopefully Flint Hell hath no fury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 hours ago, elhombrecito said: That's a cautionable offence, I'm afraid. Didn't know that. The "whether or not the goalkeeper touches the ball with the hands" bit doesn't make sense though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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