And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: And football fans have to foot the bill. Not at all. The vast majority of money comes from TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: Not at all. The vast majority of money comes from TV. No football fan pays for TV of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: No football fan pays for TV of course An optional payment. You choose if you want to watch football on TV or not. Before Sky there was no TV. There is still no TV if you choose not to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, RedDave said: Not at all. The vast majority of money comes from TV. This recent list of Chelsea ticket prices would suggest that fans pay through the nose to help pay for the likes of Mr Hudson-Odoi's salary. And besides, it's the fans who pay for the TV too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: This recent list of Chelsea ticket prices would suggest that fans pay through the nose to help pay for the likes of Mr Hudson-Odoi's salary. And besides, it's the fans who pay for the TV too! TV is optional though! You don’t HAVE to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: TV is optional though! You don’t HAVE to pay for it. I personally don't (aside from the occasional day pass), for the simple reason that it's too expensive. You'd like to think that football fans will eventually see sense and realise that they're bankrupting themselves for the privilege of seeing second-rate players kicking a football for 90 minutes. Unlikely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 All we have to do to stop the madness is to cancel our Sky and BT Sport subscriptions!!! But which one of us will do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I personally don't (aside from the occasional day pass), for the simple reason that it's too expensive. You'd like to think that football fans will eventually see sense and realise that they're bankrupting themselves for the privilege of seeing second-rate players kicking a football for 90 minutes. Unlikely though. Second rate players ? I think it’s us on a matchday who pay to watch second rate players Many people spend more on a day watching us on a single match ( in some very drab fare last season ) than a months subscription You also forget that people are paying to watch the The very best cricket of numerous formats , Rugby , Darts , UFC , Golf .....and just about any other sport you can imagine , covered and presented in a way light years from terrestrial channels Other than that what are people paying for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 hours ago, stephenkibby. said: Retire at 35? Lets face it a normal job they will never do. But putting something back into society with the skills they have would be great. This is a great point. It would be fantastic to see ex players give something back by taking on small struggling teams that have no hope of winning anything. Like Ole Solskjaer has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, bpexile said: In Australian Rules Football all clubs have to work within a salary cap, it seems to work reasonably well with players earning good money although nothing like we're talking about here. Stupid Aussies! Why dont they simply move to European or British Aussie Rules teams where there is no salary cap??? Der! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Second rate players ? I think it’s us on a matchday who pay to watch second rate players Many people spend more on a day watching us on a single match ( in some very drab fare last season ) than a months subscription You also forget that people are paying to watch the The very best cricket of numerous formats , Rugby , Darts , UFC , Golf .....and just about any other sport you can imagine , covered and presented in a way light years from terrestrial channels Other than that what are people paying for ? Sorry, I didn't make it clear that I was largely referring to matchday prices, not the price of a TV subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Stupid Aussies! Why dont they simply move to European or British Aussie Rules teams where there is no salary cap??? Der! Good to see you live up to your name ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, RedDave said: TV is optional though! You don’t HAVE to pay for it. Since the formation of the premier league and the influx of Sky money to the game, it really has become a chicken and egg situation. Increased tV money has led to agents demanding that their player clients are given their "share" so as TV money increases, so do player wages and so do ticket prices. The "working man", whose game this used to be, is, in effect, priced out of the game with these ticket prices. Even if he didn't want to support Sky, whose money has led to this situation, a Sky subsciprion might be the only financially viable way he can watch his team play "live". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: All we have to do to stop the madness is to cancel our Sky and BT Sport subscriptions!!! But which one of us will do that? Never had or needed one. I'm no neutral sports fan needing to see a game where I don't care who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, TBW said: Never had or needed one. I'm no neutral sports fan needing to see a game where I don't care who wins. So , not a sports fan then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Sorry but nothing you say will convince me that an 18-year-old who has played just TEN league games for Chelsea's first team warrants £180,000 a week. It's absolutely absurd. I'm pretty sure that no movie or pop stars were getting that kind of coin until they became world-famous stars. He’s an assest who is currently worth 60m or so after 10 games, he could ‘potentially’ be worth double that so the wages are worth it from a Chelsea point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, downendcity said: Since the formation of the premier league and the influx of Sky money to the game, it really has become a chicken and egg situation. Increased tV money has led to agents demanding that their player clients are given their "share" so as TV money increases, so do player wages and so do ticket prices. The "working man", whose game this used to be, is, in effect, priced out of the game with these ticket prices. Even if he didn't want to support Sky, whose money has led to this situation, a Sky subsciprion might be the only financially viable way he can watch his team play "live". I know a lot of ‘working men’ and they go to watch their team live. My best mate earns £18k per year and has a season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: So , not a sports fan then Football, basketball, american football. What I want isn't on Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, TBW said: Football, basketball, american football. What I want isn't on Sky. Your statement ’ I'm no neutral sports fan needing to see a game where I don't care who wins ‘ So you only watch sport when you are supporting a team, so a supporter of sides but not of the sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, TBW said: Football, basketball, american football. What I want isn't on Sky. What sport isn't on sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, jj77 said: What sport isn't on sky? Bristol City and every game of my NBA and NFL teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, TBW said: Bristol City and every game of my NBA and NFL teams. But they show a hell of a lot of NBA & NFL. And depending on well we’re doing, we get a fair bit of coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: But they show a hell of a lot of NBA & NFL. And depending on well we’re doing, we get a fair bit of coverage. Not my team. Better off looking into the direct NBA and NFL subscription services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Lucan said: This has been said since Trevor Francis moved to Forest for 1m He needs a better job Care workers aren’t paid a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Lucan said: This has been said since Trevor Francis moved to Forest for 1m He needs a better job Yeah, but it hasn't ended yet.. It COULD end in tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 24/07/2019 at 13:27, jj77 said: What sport isn't on sky? Jelly wrestling. Thank God for the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Jelly wrestling. Thank God for the internet. Why would you watch Jelly wrestle? Is this done in flavours? Each to their own I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 I hate it when people say being a footballer is a short career. Why should they get to retire 30 years before everyone else? If they cant retire at 35 or whatever on their money then get another job like every other person in this country. Not being funny but if you cant retire at that age being on just 50k a week then you're pretty special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 25/07/2019 at 14:20, Tipps69 said: Why would you watch Jelly wrestle? Is this done in flavours? Each to their own I suppose If its what I think it is then I know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 The 'give it to the nurses' argument is so bloody boring. Premier League players contributed £1.1bn to the UK economy through employment taxes in the 16/17 season and I'd imagine it was even more significant for the season just gone. In 2018/19, the health budget in the UK was £115bn meaning that the Premier League players contributed to just under 1% of the Premier League budget, which is pretty staggering when you consider there were just under 1,500 players registered to the 20 clubs. Like it or not, it's all market driven and their salary is what people are willing to pay for them on the open market. They're talented and paid what they are because they're considered to be/have the potential to be the most talented people in their field. I don't deny it's a staggering amount of money for a youngster but there is a bit of method to the madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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