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Carey 6

Loan Watch 19/20

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As far as I know, the players we currently have loaned out are as follows. 

Max O'Leary - Shrewsbury
Rory Holden - Walsall
Cameron Pring - Walsall
Robbie Cundy - Exeter
Joe Morrell - Lincoln
George Nurse - Newport
James Morton - Forest Green

Expect we'll see a few more before the season begins. 

Enjoyed last seasons thread on here, hopefully can be pinned once again to help fans keep track of how the players are getting on. 

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6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

James Morton at FGR - I think that's a loan not a permanent switch.

Thanks, edited now. 

That's a really good move for him, completely missed that one.

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I think we'll see a lot more outgoing loan deals completed soon as teams finalise for the new season. This thread was very useful last season for following our loan army, should definitely be pinned again.

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Just now, WarksRobin said:

Janneh was due to join Doncaster on loan, but is now injured and out for six weeks

Such a shame. That would have been such a good challenge for him. Hopefully he can rest and recuperate and then spend the autumn training with our first team and maybe helping us out up front on occasions. If he stays fit and does well then I'm sure there will be an opportunity for him to get a league loan in January.

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Keep in mind we can loan players to L1 and lower throughout August. Quite sure anyway the L1 and L2 window is end of August

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24 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

Janneh was due to join Doncaster on loan, but is now injured and out for six weeks

Wasn’t Doncaster who McCoulsky was joining before he had his problems last season? They seem a bit of a jinx!

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On ‎29‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 20:30, Carey 6 said:

Wasn’t Doncaster who McCoulsky was joining before he had his problems last season? They seem a bit of a jinx!

Maybe we should have offered them to Doncaster United and not Rovers

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12 hours ago, Monkeh said:

Interesting that backison hasn’t gone out on loan

I guess it's a bit similar to the Morrell situation last year, can't afford for another central midfielder to leave on loan without another signed first. Although I wonder if we'd be better off loaning Walsh out to get some game time and having Bakinson as fourth choice (fifth once Korey is back).

 

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Edwards signed onto a new two-year contract with a third year option as well. Great news, he's a cracking little player who just needs to work on a bit of positional discipline I think. Really good choice for both these lads to go back to a club and team that they know and give league football a crack. 

As an aside I'm 99% sure Saikou Janneh would be going with them were it not for his injury.

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19 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Edwards signed onto a new two-year contract with a third year option as well. Great news, he's a cracking little player who just needs to work on a bit of positional discipline I think. Really good choice for both these lads to go back to a club and team that they know and give league football a crack. 

As an aside I'm 99% sure Saikou Janneh would be going with them were it not for his injury.

Really like both players.

Opi i think will make it with us as a right back. He has incredible pace, bit of trickery and looks to be getting stronger. Final end product not great, but plenty to work on. 

Evans, bit surprised a league two side hasn't taken him on. Works incredibly hard, box to box, great passer and got a great shot on him. Maybe needs to get stronger as he can't rely on pace as he isn't exactly quick. 

I think Torquay will be challenging again this year even in a harder league. 

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22 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Really like both players.

Opi i think will make it with us as a right back. He has incredible pace, bit of trickery and looks to be getting stronger. Final end product not great, but plenty to work on. 

Evans, bit surprised a league two side hasn't taken him on. Works incredibly hard, box to box, great passer and got a great shot on him. Maybe needs to get stronger as he can't rely on pace as he isn't exactly quick. 

I think Torquay will be challenging again this year even in a harder league. 

Ah shoot, I had it in my head that Torquay got up into L2 last season. Ah well, National League is still a decent division for lads their age. And the January cut off means that they could easily move to L2 club for the run-in if they do well.

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3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Edwards signed onto a new two-year contract with a third year option as well. Great news, he's a cracking little player who just needs to work on a bit of positional discipline I think. Really good choice for both these lads to go back to a club and team that they know and give league football a crack. 

As an aside I'm 99% sure Saikou Janneh would be going with them were it not for his injury.

Saikou was off to Doncaster I think LJ said.

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Pring starts for Walsall, Holden on the bench. CLE and Opi on the bench for Torquay.

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5 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Opi just scored for Torquay

 

Yep, He and CLE had only been on the pitch 5 minutes. Boreham Wood are down to 10 men though.

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Full list I think:

 

Max O’Leary - Shrewsbury Town (League 1)

George Nurse - Newport County (League 2)

Robbie Cundy - Exeter City (League 2)

Cameron Pring - Walsall (League 2)

Joe Morrell - Lincoln City (League 1)

James Morton - Forest Green Rovers (League 1)

Rory Holden - Walsall (League 2)

Vincent Harper - Gloucester

Opi Edwards - Torquay

Conor Lemmonheigh-Edwards - Torquay

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21 minutes ago, James54De said:

Full list I think:

 

Max O’Leary - Shrewsbury Town (League 1)

Clean Sheet (against Pompey!)

George Nurse - Newport County (League 2)

Bench

Robbie Cundy - Exeter City (League 2)

Not involved

Cameron Pring - Walsall (League 2)
Clean Sheet

Joe Morrell - Lincoln City (League 1)
Clean sheet + Yellow card

James Morton - Forest Green Rovers (League 1)
Clean Sheet

Rory Holden - Walsall (League 2)
Off the bench on 90 minutes

Vincent Harper - Gloucester
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Opi Edwards - Torquay
On from the bench 56  minutes, scored

Conor Lemmonheigh-Edwards - Torquay
On from the bench 56 minutes

 

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A lot of starts which was not the case last season. At least I think so. Good start for a few of them. A lot of wins today

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2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

For Pring as well as Walsall get a 1-0 win.

Looks like Cam maybe played LM today judging by BBC website team-list.

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19 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Looks like Cam maybe played LM today judging by BBC website team-list.

Fair enough...he'd still get 1 point for a clean sheet in Fantasy so I think we can credit him something for the CS! 

Also - Vince Harper got MOTM for Gloucester.

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23 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Fair enough...he'd still get 1 point for a clean sheet in Fantasy so I think we can credit him something for the CS! 

Also - Vince Harper got MOTM for Gloucester.

Yeah, wasn’t being critical, just saw the team listing with him in 9th....suggesting not LB.

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17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yeah, wasn’t being critical, just saw the team listing with him in 9th....suggesting not LB.

I know, sorry if I snapped back at you mate. Sometimes text fails to convey tone. I agree that he's possibly not being used as LB. I've heard he's got pace to burn so they may well be using him more as LW. Good start for him nonetheless.

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Living up here in Walsall I always keep an eye out for the goings on down there. 

Took this off their forum

"How ■■■■■■■ good was Pring today. Proper marauder." 

That's just one of a couple of positive comments about our Cameron so he's making a good first impression at the Bank's stadium. 

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Looks like Cam maybe played LM today judging by BBC website team-list.

Read in preseason Clarke has been going with 352.

Great to all those comment about Cam. To be fair Newport and Cheltenham fans liked him. And he looked good for us in preseason. This could be a big season for Cam.

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According to Lincoln fans Morrell was superb. Him and Payne (who im surprised they managed to sign sign) seem to look different class. Dribbling and moving the ball forwards. Sounds like they're playing good football and a good move for Joe. Could really see him coming back ready next season.

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James Morton seemed to impress on his debut for FGR. 

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James Morton 7 The Bristol City loanee was always eager to get on the ball and showcase his ball spraying skills from midfield in his first competitive match for Rovers.

https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/sport/17814725.forest-green-player-ratings-debutants-allen-morton-impress-victory-oldham-athletic/

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On 03/08/2019 at 22:57, JonDolman said:

According to Lincoln fans Morrell was superb. Him and Payne (who im surprised they managed to sign sign) seem to look different class. Dribbling and moving the ball forwards. Sounds like they're playing good football and a good move for Joe. Could really see him coming back ready next season.

really nice write up on Joe Morell's first Lincoln appearance here:

https://staceywest.net/2019/08/05/joe-morrell-a-masterclass-in-midfield-play-on-debut-from-on-loan-bristol-city-man/

...just spotted that @bcfc01 has posted the same report in the main forum...

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Just now, bcfc01 said:

Sorry about that - can mods move/delete it ?

Don't apologise - you beat me to it! Nice report though.

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@Red Exile, @bcfc01 Thanks for the report guys. I've taken the liberty of copying out the bits on Morrell, with interesting bits in bold:

"Morrell sat in front of the back four alongside Michael O’Connor, looking to add some guile and forward passing to the Imps’ side. With the likes of Jorge Grant and Jack Payne up ahead, Morrell and O’Connor had to turn in good performances. Now we have Payne to link the forwards and the midfield, service from deep has never been as crucial.

I thought Mickey got everywhere this weekend and, given his recent injury struggle, that made me pick him for Man of the Match. Someone around me on the way back down Sincil Bank did suggest Morrell was their top player and that stats back up that claim.

His passing accuracy was excellent, right across the spectrum. Danny said post match that Joe has a lovely weight of pass, he can judge the power and precision of a pass superbly well. Not only is that true, but he’s unnervingly accurate, or at least he was this weekend.

His passing accuracy was 83.3%, a genuinely impressive figure that would be lauded at any level of the game. People often say that it’s easy to rack up good passing accuracy knocking it backwards and sideways, but that wasn’t the case here.

13 of the passes Morrell made were played forward, 77.8% of which were accurate. When playing into the final third he made 10 passes, nine of which went where they were intended. That’s 90% accuracy, a tremendous number. Whilst it is only one fixture, his distribution was incredibly effective.

My preconception was that he’d be the ball player, O’Connor the ball winner. That’s not to say one can’t do the other, but I envisaged us having a ‘defensive’ midfielder and an ‘offensive’ one. Maybe I’m trying to make it too complicated because Morrell had some great numbers in terms of his ball winning as well.

He made 16 ball recoveries. Now, I wasn’t sure what that entailed so I watched a few videos of his recoveries and it’s things like winning balls played forward by the opposition just as much as it is tackles. 16 is a good number, he was clearly alert to danger and eager to get into the right positions to win the ball.

Finally, he won 75% of his defensive duels, providing adequate cover alongside Mickey at the back.

“Well, I’m a midfield player who likes to get forward,” he told me in an interview with the club programme over the summer.

“I’m not the biggest but I like to get on the ball and create chances. I can play further forward and come from deep as well. I like to dictate the tempo of the game and I look forward to showing what I can do at Sincil Bank.”

He managed to make a cracking start this weekend; it was a really impressive debut from Morrell. He got about the park well and was often a pass behind the shot assists, much as Alex Woodyard used to be back in the day. I did say before the game we needed an ‘Alex Woodyard’ figure, a slick passer who could help bridge the gao [sic] in the middle of the park."

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Jojo Wollacott has gone on loan to Forest Green Rovers.

Their current keeper is less experienced than him, so I wonder if he could find himself in there after a few games, good loan for him & gets to work under David Coles again. 

I've also just had a look at their squad, their winger Williams got injured at the weekend, he was a key player for them. I think Jonny Smith would be a good replacement. 

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6 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

Their current keeper is less experienced than him, so I wonder if he could find himself in there after a few games, good loan for him & gets to work under David Coles again. 

David Coles has already left FGR for a job with the England U18s squad.

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On 05/08/2019 at 17:58, ExiledAjax said:

@Red Exile, @bcfc01 Thanks for the report guys. I've taken the liberty of copying out the bits on Morrell, with interesting bits in bold:

"Morrell sat in front of the back four alongside Michael O’Connor, looking to add some guile and forward passing to the Imps’ side. With the likes of Jorge Grant and Jack Payne up ahead, Morrell and O’Connor had to turn in good performances. Now we have Payne to link the forwards and the midfield, service from deep has never been as crucial.

I thought Mickey got everywhere this weekend and, given his recent injury struggle, that made me pick him for Man of the Match. Someone around me on the way back down Sincil Bank did suggest Morrell was their top player and that stats back up that claim.

His passing accuracy was excellent, right across the spectrum. Danny said post match that Joe has a lovely weight of pass, he can judge the power and precision of a pass superbly well. Not only is that true, but he’s unnervingly accurate, or at least he was this weekend.

His passing accuracy was 83.3%, a genuinely impressive figure that would be lauded at any level of the game. People often say that it’s easy to rack up good passing accuracy knocking it backwards and sideways, but that wasn’t the case here.

13 of the passes Morrell made were played forward, 77.8% of which were accurate. When playing into the final third he made 10 passes, nine of which went where they were intended. That’s 90% accuracy, a tremendous number. Whilst it is only one fixture, his distribution was incredibly effective.

My preconception was that he’d be the ball player, O’Connor the ball winner. That’s not to say one can’t do the other, but I envisaged us having a ‘defensive’ midfielder and an ‘offensive’ one. Maybe I’m trying to make it too complicated because Morrell had some great numbers in terms of his ball winning as well.

He made 16 ball recoveries. Now, I wasn’t sure what that entailed so I watched a few videos of his recoveries and it’s things like winning balls played forward by the opposition just as much as it is tackles. 16 is a good number, he was clearly alert to danger and eager to get into the right positions to win the ball.

Finally, he won 75% of his defensive duels, providing adequate cover alongside Mickey at the back.

“Well, I’m a midfield player who likes to get forward,” he told me in an interview with the club programme over the summer.

“I’m not the biggest but I like to get on the ball and create chances. I can play further forward and come from deep as well. I like to dictate the tempo of the game and I look forward to showing what I can do at Sincil Bank.”

He managed to make a cracking start this weekend; it was a really impressive debut from Morrell. He got about the park well and was often a pass behind the shot assists, much as Alex Woodyard used to be back in the day. I did say before the game we needed an ‘Alex Woodyard’ figure, a slick passer who could help bridge the gao [sic] in the middle of the park."

Wow. We need this guy to become a City fan and post on here about players performances. Excellent post.

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2 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Wow. We need this guy to become a City fan and post on here about players performances. Excellent post.

At the very least @Shtanley should be chatting to him on the podcast once we've got through the first few games.

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22 hours ago, Red Exile said:

Excellent video of Cameron Pring on his debut on Tin's twitter:

 

He looks like he's got the lot, doesn't he? Dasilva might have some competition next season

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23 hours ago, Red Exile said:

Excellent video of Cameron Pring on his debut on Tin's twitter:

 

 

40 minutes ago, chipdawg said:

He looks like he's got the lot, doesn't he? Dasilva might have some competition next season

Another one that looks like he has grown and filled out in the last few months. He will definitely be making people sit up and take notice if he continues with that kind of performance. 

Zak Vyner has made it into Europe before anyone else! He didn't get on but was on the bench for the Aberdeen Europa league defeat last night.

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1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

 

Another one that looks like he has grown and filled out in the last few months. He will definitely be making people sit up and take notice if he continues with that kind of performance. 

Agreed - perhaps the reason why we've not recruited another left sided defender?

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On 09/08/2019 at 07:51, Port Said Red said:

 

Another one that looks like he has grown and filled out in the last few months. He will definitely be making people sit up and take notice if he continues with that kind of performance. 

Zak Vyner has made it into Europe before anyone else! He didn't get on but was on the bench for the Aberdeen Europa league defeat last night.

I always thought there is no way Pring looked that good last summer in preseason if he hasn't got huge potential.

On that video he seems to be that player that came on against Shrewsbury. I believe he will come back and be Dasilva back up, more of an ideal Dasilva type rather than Rowe who seems a bit slow and probably better in midfield.

I really hope Vyner gets in that Aberdeen side, as I really wish we had kept him. We are short at the back now. We had 6 centre backs last season if you include Kelly and Pisano, who I think are very good centre backs. We now have 4, 2 of which are injury prone. Bit worried about that.

Some people seem to think Vyner is not fancied now. I believe he is highly rated. But looking at his physique, he still looks quite skinny. Whereas Moore looks double the size than a few years back. Interesting how those 2 have kept overtaking each other in their development.

A successful loan in the Scottish Prem could be enough for Zak to be ready. It's not championship standard, but an improvement on league one where he was so good at centre back for Plymouth.

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