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30 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Thats ridiculous IMHO........Websters probably the best footballer we have had at Ashton Gate in the past 40 years, and now a team with the best 2 central defenders in the championshio has been split up and our tactics changed a few days before the season.. We will no longer  have the pleasure of watching Webster play week in week out, developing even further, and possibly contributing to us reaching the Prem.  A few weeks ago we were looking forward to possibly Buying/loaning a Premiershio striker, and facing Leeds with a new goalcorer and a rock solid defence........now we face them without our best player AND no new forward, and with,  a completely different mood around the club?   I read in a Quality Saturday newspaper today, that a feature journalist cannot understand why Arsenal didn't come in for him, as he is just the type of player who would suit them (No doubt they;ll buy him for 60 mill in a couple pf years, when Brighton are unable to turn down offers?  No u don't share the same passion for Bristol City if you cannot appreciate what we have just lost, Websters don't come along very often. But then you would rather have the money, rather than an exceptional player who we built the side around?  Sorry you just don't get it.😂

FWIW, I am disappointed by both Kelly and Webster leaving, but i’m Prepared to wait to see who we get in (I do expect there to be someone by Thursday).

If it’s Hector for around £5m I will be very happy.

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Imagine the scenes, half time tomorrow, Dwight Gayle announced. The fans sing his name for the entire second half. City put on a blistering performance to earn the 3 points. OTIB erupts with positive comments.

(we can only dream)

In all seriousness Gayle seems to be on wages that most teams in this league would baulk at. And I am struggling to think of many prem players that would be exciting that are curently not in their teams plans. 

Vydra - knows the league, I feel would be interested in coming to us, but again large wages.

Wickham - not excited by that prospect in the slightest.

Austin - would love us to get him if it was a loan, wages are astronomical.

Wells - could suit the system and is a player who works hard for the team. But does not guarantee a good goal return.

Niasee - no thank you and again I imagine wages are high.

Hogan - not consistent

Kodjia - would take him back, only worry would be his lack of game time since leaving us. Think he has had to settle for being an impact sub at times.

Gray - this would be my choice every time. But wages are likely to be just out of reach, think he is in and out of the team there and not sure he would want to drop down a division.

If anyone has anymore suggestions?

Nobody knows the names we have been talking to which makes the whole situation slightly more nerve wracking as there has been nothing reported in the press. Most of our deals this summer have been reported before happening. You would think if we were close to signing a proven striker it would be leaked somewhere by an agent trying to drum up interest in their client.

The reality will be that this goes all the way to deadline day. Looking at the team sheets in the division today, most of those key strikers are playing or in the squad for their teams. Maupay and Benrahma were not in the Brentford squad but both are way out of our current reach and are being linked to the likes of Brighton and Villa for 20m each. The fact most leading strikers in the division played then nothing would be close with anyone. Unless we manage to attract a Prem talent. 

If I was to guess, I would expect a centre back to arrive on Monday or early next week. I feel we may be waiting until Thursday’s deadline to bring in a striker and possibly one other.

 

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36 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Thats ridiculous IMHO........Websters probably the best footballer we have had at Ashton Gate in the past 40 years, and now a team with the best 2 central defenders in the championshio has been split up and our tactics changed a few days before the season.. We will no longer  have the pleasure of watching Webster play week in week out, developing even further, and possibly contributing to us reaching the Prem.  A few weeks ago we were looking forward to possibly Buying/loaning a Premiershio striker, and facing Leeds with a new goalcorer and a rock solid defence........now we face them without our best player AND no new forward, and with,  a completely different mood around the club?   I read in a Quality Saturday newspaper today, that a feature journalist cannot understand why Arsenal didn't come in for him, as he is just the type of player who would suit them (No doubt they;ll buy him for 60 mill in a couple pf years, when Brighton are unable to turn down offers?  No u don't share the same passion for Bristol City if you cannot appreciate what we have just lost, Websters don't come along very often. But then you would rather have the money, rather than an exceptional player who we built the side around?  Sorry you just don't get it.😂

I'd rather have the money to buy an exceptional player like Gayle who will push us forward.

20 million for a Championship CB is absolutely crazy money.

The question I keep asking that no one wants to answer is, would you be happy if we spent 20 million on Webster or a similar type player?

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28 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

The Southampton model of development was very different. It was based upon always having a procession of academy developed players ready for the squad, first team and being regulars in the first team. Bristol City in comparison would be held up as a failure of development as it has no academy developed players in its XI and nowhere near 50% of its squad being academy products.

Is that not what we are doing? But we are at the start of that journey so having to supplement by bringing in young players from outside the club. 

Lansdown has stated many times he wants 11 Bristolians in the team and it's clear to see that huge strides having been taken to achieve that.

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17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

FWIW, I am disappointed by both Kelly and Webster leaving, but i’m Prepared to wait to see who we get in (I do expect there to be someone by Thursday).

If it’s Hector for around £5m I will be very happy.

To sell Webster for £20+M and bring in Hector for that amount would be excellent business.

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47 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Thats ridiculous IMHO........Websters probably the best footballer we have had at Ashton Gate in the past 40 years, and now a team with the best 2 central defenders in the championshio has been split up and our tactics changed a few days before the season.. We will no longer  have the pleasure of watching Webster play week in week out, developing even further, and possibly contributing to us reaching the Prem.  A few weeks ago we were looking forward to possibly Buying/loaning a Premiershio striker, and facing Leeds with a new goalcorer and a rock solid defence........now we face them without our best player AND no new forward, and with,  a completely different mood around the club?   I read in a Quality Saturday newspaper today, that a feature journalist cannot understand why Arsenal didn't come in for him, as he is just the type of player who would suit them (No doubt they;ll buy him for 60 mill in a couple pf years, when Brighton are unable to turn down offers?  No u don't share the same passion for Bristol City if you cannot appreciate what we have just lost, Websters don't come along very often. But then you would rather have the money, rather than an exceptional player who we built the side around?  Sorry you just don't get it.😂

What would you have said if Chelsea quoted us £20m for Kalas? Would you honestly have said the club should go for it at that price or look elsewhere?

I ask because turning down £20m for Webster (and having an unhappy player) is almost the same as us buying a player for £20m... and I think we'll all agree, we aren't a team in a place to be buying players for £20m.

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10 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

I'd rather have the money to buy an exceptional player like Gayle who will push us forward.

20 million for a Championship CB is absolutely crazy money.

The question I keep asking that no one wants to answer is, would you be happy if we spent 20 million on Webster or a similar type player?

If we were a prem team buying someone of Websters class for 20 mill would be very acceptable.

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6 minutes ago, class not gas said:

If we were a prem team buying someone of Websters class for 20 mill would be very acceptable.

But we're not.

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2 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

Is that not what we are doing? But we are at the start of that journey so having to supplement by bringing in young players from outside the club. 

Lansdown has stated many times he wants 11 Bristolians in the team and it's clear to see that huge strides having been taken to achieve that.

No. Bristol City are clearly not using the methodology of Southampton's development. Southampton did not buy in punts, and clubs in the bag, and lots of ones for the future blocking the pathway not only into the XI but the squad. 

Mr Lansdown may say he wants 11 Bristolians … Well he has already ruled out another John Atyeo or Rob Newman then. That statement is very different to the mind set of Southampton. 

Southampton have a regional structure BCFC do not have and are not attempting to emulate. BCFC do not have the coaching systems x play in place to produce what Southampton did. Southampton's academy products are produced by a coaching philosophy for a playing philosophy BCFC do not have.  

 

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8 minutes ago, TBW said:

But we're not.

To be honest dont think I would be happy,but transfer prices have gone crazy and if a club were asking 20 mill for a player and Lansdown was prepared to pay it I'd say sign him up.

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58 minutes ago, class not gas said:

Halalula, somebody else who feels the same.

Here's another guy who feels the same as you...

 

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2 minutes ago, class not gas said:

To be honest dont think I would be happy,but transfer prices have gone crazy and if a club were asking 20 mill for a player and Lansdown was prepared to pay it I'd say sign him up.

And then you'd get a repeat of 1982.

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2 hours ago, class not gas said:

Think we will find it hard to get someone in with Websters quality, but yes suppose so.

His head had been turned as shown in the game against Palace. If you had the chance of playing in the top tier of English football, you’d take it. It’s not as though we are his boyhood club. For many footballers and indeed workers in other occupations it’s a case of work hard, do well and get the just rewards. For a club like City it’s a case of enjoy them while you can.  It’s a two way thing,  they  can be good for the club  and the club can be good for them. 

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2 minutes ago, class not gas said:

Would rather have the players than the money.

Would rather have a financially stable club than be in Bury or Bolton's position.

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2 hours ago, TBW said:

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Rovers lost 2-0 - great to hear, pity it wasn't 5.

I'm with @class not gas, always cheers me up up to hear Rovers are losing and surprised any City fan would feel any different.

Absolutely shitty club who hate City getting off to a losing start - what's not to like? 

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3 hours ago, class not gas said:

If your not feeling a bit down about Webster leaving you dont share the same passion I do for Bristol City, we all knew it was going to happen but still feel gutted.

You must be a young un - I used to get distraught when my fave players left way back in the day when I was young, naive and assumed the players would stay forever. I was gutted when Glyn Riley left but nowadays I’m totally comfortable with players coming and going - especially when we get £22m for one who’s only been here for five minutes. Oh, and I can assure you my passion for City is at the very least the equal of yours ...

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23 minutes ago, class not gas said:

Would rather have the players than the money.

And how do you think we are going to get more players without the money?...

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3 minutes ago, class not gas said:

Dont sale them in the first place, build the team around your best players.

sell*

But then how do you buy the next ones? You can't just expect Lansdown to pull money out of his wallet forever, it's a business and it needs to somewhat able to fund itself.

£20m can buy five Adam Webster's if the scouts here are good enough. 

You're looking at it very closed minded. Look at the bigger picture.

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1 minute ago, class not gas said:

Dont get personnel TBW it ain't clever, I might not be able to spell but I m old enough to respect other supporters.

I'm not getting personal. I'm just saying look at the bigger picture. We sold Webster for about 530% more than we got him for.

... And don't talk about your respect for other supporters after you were just calling people out for not having the same passion for the club as you. 

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6 minutes ago, TBW said:

sell*

But then how do you buy the next ones? You can't just expect Lansdown to pull money out of his wallet forever, it's a business and it needs to somewhat able to fund itself.

£20m can buy five Adam Webster's if the scouts here are good enough. 

You're looking at it very closed minded. Look at the bigger picture.

If you have the basis of a good team , players can be added by selling your fringe players and building your team around the best ones.

1 minute ago, TBW said:

I'm not getting personal. I'm just saying look at the bigger picture. We sold Webster for about 530% more than we got him for.

... And don't talk about your respect for other supporters after you were just calling people out for not having the same passion for the club as you. 

I have never disrespected  any one on here.

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1 minute ago, class not gas said:

If you have the basis of a good team , players can be added by selling your fringe players and building your team around the best ones.

I have never disrespected  any one on here.

Calling people out, your very mistaken mate.

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You can probably count on one hand the number of clubs in world football that don't have to sell their best players.

The important thing is to get a good deal when you do. We did and we have consistently for a few seasons now.

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3 minutes ago, TBW said:

I'm not getting personal. I'm just saying look at the bigger picture. We sold Webster for about 530% more than we got him for.

... And don't talk about your respect for other supporters after you were just calling people out for not having the same passion for the club as you. 

And dont you feel sad that you wont see Webster play for City again? A player of hi class can not be replaced.

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At present we have a vastly  inferior squad to last season having lost Kelly, Webster , Pisano and Mo Elsa with no notable replacements. We had Webster /Da Silva / Kalas and Palmer last season  and we didn't go up! Unless we use the money from the sale of Webster to get a quality striker , I fail to see how wee can expect to finish higher than last year.

Now aged 68 and a fan for over 60 years , I am rapidly running out of patience (and time) to see us back in the top flight. Always selling our best players is not a recipe for a successful side...Kelly / Webster /Flint / Reid /Bryan etc. Hopefully LJ will prove me wrong and we will gain promotion this year. ...but I'm not holding my breath.

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4 minutes ago, class not gas said:

If you have the basis of a good team , players can be added by selling your fringe players and building your team around the best ones.

Not if you piss off all your good ones by never letting them move forwards with their careers. They won't play to their full ability and will end up leaving for nothing when their contracts expire.

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1 hour ago, Cowshed said:

Mr Lansdown may say he wants 11 Bristolians … Well he has already ruled out another John Atyeo or Rob Newman then. That statement is very different to the mind set of Southampton.

 

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Just now, Gazred said:

You can probably count on one hand the number of clubs in world football that don't have to sell their best players.

The important thing is to get a good deal when you do. We did and we have consistently for a few seasons now.

I agree 100% but I'm saying I wont get to see a player of Websters class in a City shirt and for that reason and that reason alone I'm dissapointed that hes gone.

1 minute ago, TBW said:

Not if you piss off all your good ones by never letting them move forwards with their careers. They won't play to their full ability and will end up leaving for nothing when their contracts expire.

But you might be in the prem by then.

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3 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said:

At present we have a vastly  inferior squad to last season having lost Kelly, Webster , Pisano and Mo Elsa with no notable replacements. We had Webster /Da Silva / Kalas and Palmer last season  and we didn't go up! Unless we use the money from the sale of Webster to get a quality striker , I fail to see how wee can expect to finish higher than last year.

Now aged 68 and a fan for over 60 years , I am rapidly running out of patience (and time) to see us back in the top flight. Always selling our best players is not a recipe for a successful side...Kelly / Webster /Flint / Reid /Bryan etc. Hopefully LJ will prove me wrong and we will gain promotion this year. ...but I'm not holding my breath.

Totally agree, us older fans have been there and done it all when supporting City.

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3 minutes ago, class not gas said:

And dont you feel sad that you wont see Webster play for City again? A player of hi class can not be replaced.

You seriously believe that Webster is complete irreplaceable? 😂😂

Come on...

2 minutes ago, class not gas said:

But you might be in the prem by then.

Not if the players refuse to play or play like shit.

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Sat on a balcony in Tenerife. Boiling hot and sporting the biggest t-wat tan known to man.

Not really bothered about a new signing to be honest - worse things in life like people pointing at the ink blotch red and white man.

Whole family representing tomorrow in various City related clothing. I will just leave my top off to show my true colours 🤔

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2 minutes ago, TBW said:

You seriously believe that Webster is complete irreplaceable? 😂😂

Come on...

Not if the players refuse to play or play like shit.

How long have you supported City or are you a Gas head?

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3 minutes ago, TBW said:

You seriously believe that Webster is complete irreplaceable? 😂😂

Come on...

Not if the players refuse to play or play like shit.

Why would they refuse to play if there in contention for promotion.

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Just now, class not gas said:

I agree 100% but I'm saying I wont get to see a player of Websters class in a City shirt and for that reason and that reason alone I'm dissapointed that hes gone.

Fair enough, totally get where you are coming from. Just have to keep the faith that the next one is just around the corner.

We've improved a lot on the recruitment front and if the funds are invested wisely there's no reason we can't replicate that sort of signing.

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8 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said:

At present we have a vastly  inferior squad to last season having lost Kelly, Webster , Pisano and Mo Elsa with no notable replacements. We had Webster /Da Silva / Kalas and Palmer last season  and we didn't go up! Unless we use the money from the sale of Webster to get a quality striker , I fail to see how wee can expect to finish higher than last year.

Now aged 68 and a fan for over 60 years , I am rapidly running out of patience (and time) to see us back in the top flight. Always selling our best players is not a recipe for a successful side...Kelly / Webster /Flint / Reid /Bryan etc. Hopefully LJ will prove me wrong and we will gain promotion this year. ...but I'm not holding my breath.

Totally agree, us older fans have been there and done it all when supporting City.

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This sh*t about us being a “selling club” - as if that’s a defined thing - is dumb. 

Even Chelsea had to sell Hazard this summer - “Head turned” by Real. It’s life. We are dealing with people, not Panini stickers. 

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1 hour ago, class not gas said:

Why would they refuse to play if there in contention for promotion.

You're clueless. They wouldn't get there in the first place because they wouldn't be playing to their capability.

1 hour ago, class not gas said:

How long have you supported City or are you a Gas head?

Cock.

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6 minutes ago, class not gas said:

Scared to answer the question?

4 minutes ago, class not gas said:

If you would like to meet me tomorrow,  that's if your even going, will be on the wall about 2.30.

What is wrong with you?...

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Just now, TBW said:

 

What's wrong with you?...

Nothing mate, just making a point. If you cant understand that I'm gutted to loose a player of Websters class that's your problem.

Just now, class not gas said:

Nothing mate, just making a point. If you cant understand that I'm gutted to loose a player of Websters class that's your problem.

It's called passion

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