reddogkev Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 I know this is mentioned on a few other threads, especially the Massengo thread, but Diedhiou has to be dropped from the team and AW should be the focal point of the attack. In my personal view, Famara is not up to the standard of City anymore, I love him and have said so many times in the past, but he is not good enough for us at this level. I fail to see what he offers to the team, other than hard work, and would sell him today, even as low as £4million, if another striker was incoming. Very interested to hear from any of you who would keep FD in the team - what does he bring to the side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin96 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I know this is mentioned on a few other threads, especially the Massengo thread, but Diedhiou has to be dropped from the team and AW should be the focal point of the attack. In my personal view, Famara is not up to the standard of City anymore, I love him and have said so many times in the past, but he is not good enough for us at this level. I fail to see what he offers to the team, other than hard work, and would sell him today, even as low as £4million, if another striker was incoming. Very interested to hear from any of you who would keep FD in the team - what does he bring to the side? A song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Red Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 The problem is, LJ is too embarrassed to leave out his own record £5.3 million pound signing. We are really missing Bobby Reid. He came deep to link up play, then with his lungs of steel he would chase and harry defenders all day, and then he would magically appear two yards out for the tap-ins that Fammy is too exhausted to reach these days. Playing next to Reid must have been a centre-forward's dream and Fammy is missing him. Fammy has looked good in a two - next to Taylor against Stoke in the League Cup, and spectacularly against Preston away last season when Semenyo came on and the two of them changed the game together. If we go to two up front there is hope for Fammy, but as a lone striker I cannot see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Don’t rate Weimann. A lot say he can do the job Bobby Reid did but he can’t. He is not as strong, not as quick, not as technically gifted and not as good of a finisher. Stylistically yes he is closer to Reid than Diedhiou is but that doesn’t mean he is close. Imo Weimann should be an impact sub when we need a goal. I think Diedhiou needs to be the same in a perfect world but Fam is better up top on his own than Weimann would be imo. What he did at the start of last year was catch people bu surprise because he had been a wide player for a few years and he was fresh because of the transfer. That is my opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I know this is mentioned on a few other threads, especially the Massengo thread, but Diedhiou has to be dropped from the team and AW should be the focal point of the attack. In my personal view, Famara is not up to the standard of City anymore, I love him and have said so many times in the past, but he is not good enough for us at this level. I fail to see what he offers to the team, other than hard work, and would sell him today, even as low as £4million, if another striker was incoming. Very interested to hear from any of you who would keep FD in the team - what does he bring to the side? £4m is ridiculous. Kieffer Moore just went for £3m! I think many have short memories. A lot of people couldn't wait for Diedhiou to be back the season him and Reid were up front together, and at the start of last season when he was serving his ban. Diedhiou isn't a world beater, but he'll get you 1 in 3 throughout the season, which isn't something to turn your nose up at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonym0u5 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Feel sorry for the bloke, he isn't a lone striker. He needs a number 10 playing with and off him as per Bobby Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 More Fam bashing. Let’s play Weimann and lump the ball up to him. See how he gets on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Very good at defending corners but other than that I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, RedDave said: More Fam bashing. Let’s play Weimann and lump the ball up to him. See how he gets on. It's 100% deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Famara struggled just as every other City player did against Leeds but the bottom line is that as a lone striker he just doesn’t cut it consistently enough. He’s a real hard worker, can bully defenders with his size and strength but as the main striker simply isn’t prolific enough. His first touch isn’t the best either. He would benefit from another regular goalscorer alongside him but neither Taylor or Weimann fit that particular bill. All that said, LJ and just about everyone else knows that City need at least one or even two new front men but they’re very difficult to find at the right price - just Neil Warnock who despite all his contacts within the game can’t find one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der no.2 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Don’t rate Weimann. A lot say he can do the job Bobby Reid did but he can’t. He is not as strong, not as quick, not as technically gifted and not as good of a finisher. Stylistically yes he is closer to Reid than Diedhiou is but that doesn’t mean he is close. Imo Weimann should be an impact sub when we need a goal. I think Diedhiou needs to be the same in a perfect world but Fam is better up top on his own than Weimann would be imo. What he did at the start of last year was catch people bu surprise because he had been a wide player for a few years and he was fresh because of the transfer. That is my opinion anyway. Weimann’s hat-trick at Shef Utd was outstanding. I think he is always thinking a step ahead and often, as many have said, makes a lot of runs where no-one has seen him or able to make the pass. If he played alongside a mobile striker and a midfielder of passing ability (Palmer?) he could bag quite a few goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, Boston Red said: The problem is, LJ is too embarrassed to leave out his own record £5.3 million pound signing. He's not our record signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sturny said: It's 100% deserved. Clearly it isn’t. What do you expect him to do if we smash it up to him and get nobody near him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Diedhiou serves a purpose but I'm not sure he's a lone striker. I've always thought this. I think playing him in a front 2 would be far more effective because he doesn't seem to play to his size if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: Clearly it isn’t. What do you expect him to do if we smash it up to him and get nobody near him? It really was, there were times where he was barely contested for the ball in the air and still fluffed it. And when he did win it his touch was dire or he gave it away. He had a really negative impact on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Sturny said: It really was, there were times where he was barely contested for the ball in the air and still fluffed it. And when he did win it his touch was dire or he gave it away. He had a really negative impact on the game. He competed for every ball, winning a fair few. Its hardly his fault that every time the ball came in his direction we had nobody within 15 yards of him and he had 2 Leeds defenders for company. Any championship level striker would struggle with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: Clearly it isn’t. What do you expect him to do if we smash it up to him and get nobody near him? Well no clearly it doesnt help by us playing that way. However, this has been ongoing since January 2018 with Fam. His ball control is up there with the worst I have seen, he does not ever come short to receive a ball, always relying on being on the last man. He massively disrupts the way we olay, using him as an excuse to hit it long. Still no idea why we sold Djuric, who had better ball control and could actually hold the ball ip. But feel free to argue as I know that's an out there opinion but Djuric is a better footballer than Diedhiou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think in the correct formation Fammy is an asset, he clearly sruggles as a lone striker, which to be fair is a specialist job, and hard pheckin work. Semenyo is now available again, so perhaps that might help things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, WiltshireReds said: Well no clearly it doesnt help by us playing that way. However, this has been ongoing since January 2018 with Fam. His ball control is up there with the worst I have seen, he does not ever come short to receive a ball, always relying on being on the last man. He massively disrupts the way we olay, using him as an excuse to hit it long. Still no idea why we sold Djuric, who had better ball control and could actually hold the ball ip. But feel free to argue as I know that's an out there opinion but Djuric is a better footballer than Diedhiou. Because Djuric was desperate to return to italy...........and once a player wants to go........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, WiltshireReds said: Well no clearly it doesnt help by us playing that way. However, this has been ongoing since January 2018 with Fam. His ball control is up there with the worst I have seen, he does not ever come short to receive a ball, always relying on being on the last man. He massively disrupts the way we olay, using him as an excuse to hit it long. Still no idea why we sold Djuric, who had better ball control and could actually hold the ball ip. But feel free to argue as I know that's an out there opinion but Djuric is a better footballer than Diedhiou. Djuric was never fit so no point in having him. Everyone knows we need a striker but I think the Fam bashing is a bit unfair really. I don’t see many strikers at this level being asked to do the job he does much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, JBFC II said: He competed for every ball, winning a fair few. Its hardly his fault that every time the ball came in his direction we had nobody within 15 yards of him and he had 2 Leeds defenders for company. Any championship level striker would struggle with that It's funny how two people can see a game completely differently. He was failing simple passes and some basic headers. It was pretty simple marking. There were a handful of times I recall where the Leeds defender didn't even jump for it or touch Famara but the ball floated over his head. When he came off we completely came alive up front. I guess I see it as 50/50 tactics and player fault. We shouldn't have been hoofing it up for 80 mins as it very clearly wasn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: I know this is mentioned on a few other threads, especially the Massengo thread, but Diedhiou has to be dropped from the team and AW should be the focal point of the attack. In my personal view, Famara is not up to the standard of City anymore, I love him and have said so many times in the past, but he is not good enough for us at this level. I fail to see what he offers to the team, other than hard work, and would sell him today, even as low as £4million, if another striker was incoming. Very interested to hear from any of you who would keep FD in the team - what does he bring to the side? My eight year old grandson has a better first touch than Famara.....enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sturny said: It's funny how two people can see a game completely differently. He was failing simple passes and some basic headers. It was pretty simple marking. There were a handful of times I recall where the Leeds defender didn't even jump for it or touch Famara but the ball floated over his head. When he came off we completely came alive up front. I guess I see it as 50/50 tactics and player fault. We shouldn't have been hoofing it up for 80 mins as it very clearly wasn't working. Sturny, have you revised your opinion on Jay Dasilva yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Sturny, have you revised your opinion on Jay Dasilva yet? Haha maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 I hear everyone saying this, but Weimann isn’t a lone striker either. His best haul came in the prem when he played off Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Let's replace one isolated striker with another and give him no service see how that goes .... The problem is completely our lack of creativity in midfield, the lack of goals from midfield. He has about 30 goals in 80 games, please stop saying he is rubbish because he isn't ... He needs HELP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 I am firmly in the camp that thinks the formation is the problem rather than Diedhiou. He is a good striker at this level but only in the right formation. I do wonder how we'd get on with 3-4-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2. We'd miss having Eliasson on the wings but we didn't start him Sunday anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Let's replace one isolated striker with another and give him no service see how that goes .... The problem is completely our lack of creativity in midfield, the lack of goals from midfield. He has about 30 goals in 80 games, please stop saying he is rubbish because he isn't ... He needs HELP!! Well errrrrr it went kinda well those last 10 minutes against Leeds didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, reddogkev said: I know this is mentioned on a few other threads, especially the Massengo thread, but Diedhiou has to be dropped from the team and AW should be the focal point of the attack. In my personal view, Famara is not up to the standard of City anymore, I love him and have said so many times in the past, but he is not good enough for us at this level. I fail to see what he offers to the team, other than hard work, and would sell him today, even as low as £4million, if another striker was incoming. Very interested to hear from any of you who would keep FD in the team - what does he bring to the side? Famara is not a hard worker. Never has been and probably cannot be v other players. His recovery after runs is extended. His body positions do not allow him to work hard. Mentally he lacks concentration to work hard without the ball. Sunday he opened up passing lanes due to ambling about not checking his shoulders - A mindset problem … Some call it lazy and Sunday he was guilty. It has been a theme since he has been here. City changed from a high pressing team to accommodate Famara. He cannot do the work it requires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: Don’t rate Weimann. A lot say he can do the job Bobby Reid did but he can’t. He is not as strong, not as quick, not as technically gifted and not as good of a finisher. Stylistically yes he is closer to Reid than Diedhiou is but that doesn’t mean he is close. Imo Weimann should be an impact sub when we need a goal. I think Diedhiou needs to be the same in a perfect world but Fam is better up top on his own than Weimann would be imo. What he did at the start of last year was catch people bu surprise because he had been a wide player for a few years and he was fresh because of the transfer. That is my opinion anyway. What I can't understand is why at home in most cases is he on his own? it gives the opposition an extra man right the way up the pitch, one man up front in my opinion is why our home record has been largely disappointing for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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