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John Galley

Promotion Chances Diminishing

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Without a 20+ goal scorer to go along side our existing strike force, we have no chance of getting promotion. You only have to look at the likes of Wolves, Sheffield United, Villa and even Leeds and Derby, they all had this vital ingredient that we are missing. I said before we should not have put all our eggs in one basket with this Arsenal lad and now the best we can hope for are the second rate strikers that are left, all our other targets have been transferred to other clubs.

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I love getting home from work, logging on to otib to see what is new with this fine club we choose to support to see such positivity! 

It's one game. The transfer window is still open. It will all be ok people.

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If as it appears we lose out to Leeds at the last minute for Nketiah's  signature then we are going to find ourselves in the bizarre position of fans feeling despondent despite the club having shelled out millions.

Why we can't address the forward situation is beyond me. The club must be commended for the signings secured but today along with the performance on Saturday has my mood low. Still, I'll be there next game hopeful as ever.

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24 minutes ago, John Galley said:

Without a 20+ goal scorer to go along side our existing strike force, we have no chance of getting promotion. You only have to look at the likes of Wolves, Sheffield United, Villa and even Leeds and Derby, they all had this vital ingredient that we are missing. I said before we should not have put all our eggs in one basket with this Arsenal lad and now the best we can hope for are the second rate strikers that are left, all our other targets have been transferred to other clubs.

Just wait 24 hours FFS

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30 minutes ago, John Galley said:

Without a 20+ goal scorer to go along side our existing strike force, we have no chance of getting promotion. You only have to look at the likes of Wolves, Sheffield United, Villa and even Leeds and Derby, they all had this vital ingredient that we are missing. I said before we should not have put all our eggs in one basket with this Arsenal lad and now the best we can hope for are the second rate strikers that are left, all our other targets have been transferred to other clubs.

 

But are they really? What is this constant obsession of the 20+ goals striker. Think back to when we had Baldock and he was top goal scorer in L1, what did we achieve? Nothing. You mentioned Leeds and Derby? Their top scorers last season were 14 & 15 respectively. 

Our issue is we rely far too much on Diedhou and Weimann for our goals. I would much rather take a midfielder who can chip in with goals and take some of the pressure away from the strikers which is the exact sort of player we have in Szmodics.

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2 minutes ago, Yozzarian said:

If as it appears we lose out to Leeds at the last minute for Nketiah's  signature then we are going to find ourselves in the bizarre position of fans feeling despondent despite the club having shelled out millions.

Why we can't address the forward situation is beyond me. The club must be commended for the signings secured but today along with the performance on Saturday has my mood low. Still, I'll be there next game hopeful as ever.

Patience 

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24 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

For fork sake

weve played one game

To be fair we were poor leading up the end of the season. Granted, we need to see what the new players brought in can do but we'll need goals from midfield with no new signing, a midfield that at present is lacking.

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1 minute ago, RedDave said:

Patience 

It's just always appearing to treat the forward problem as a secondary concern. Why we were even in for a loan and not seeking to secure someone permanently is frustrating. Today's news is just a blow.

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4 minutes ago, Yozzarian said:

It's just always appearing to treat the forward problem as a secondary concern. Why we were even in for a loan and not seeking to secure someone permanently is frustrating. Today's news is just a blow.

You have no idea what the club have been trying to do though 

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7 minutes ago, Robin Goch said:

 

But are they really? What is this constant obsession of the 20+ goals striker. Think back to when we had Baldock and he was top goal scorer in L1, what did we achieve? Nothing. You mentioned Leeds and Derby? Their top scorers last season were 14 & 15 respectively. 

Our issue is we rely far too much on Diedhou and Weimann for our goals. I would much rather take a midfielder who can chip in with goals and take some of the pressure away from the strikers which is the exact sort of player we have in Szmodics.

This.

4 minutes ago, Yozzarian said:

It's just always appearing to treat the forward problem as a secondary concern. Why we were even in for a loan and not seeking to secure someone permanently is frustrating. Today's news is just a blow.

I wasn’t aware we had to conclude deals in a rigid order starting with the striker and finishing with the goalkeeper. 

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Just now, RedDave said:

You have no idea what the club have been trying to do though 

Totally concede this point. It's just never the striker that gets announced early in the window. Frustrating that it be the case when it's the number one priority (their words). You are quite right that we can't call it until tomorrow and that even if nothing happens it doesn't mean they weren't working on many deals. It would mean however that we failed.

Fingers crossed!  

 

Just imagine the banter with Leeds fans if he reverted to us though. :)

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1 minute ago, eardun said:

This.

I wasn’t aware we had to conclude deals in a rigid order starting with the striker and finishing with the goalkeeper. 

Not what I said. Just lamenting the fact that we never secure the striker first. We'd all relax then. Of course, this is not obligatory. 

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Lee has other options, I trust him. I think we will got an expensive striker surprise in 24 hours and a Centre Back. Trust him, always belive.

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35 minutes ago, John Galley said:

You don’t need more than one game to see the problem that was evident last season, a lack of goals, nothing has changed.

If only the transfer window could remain open for another day..! 

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So to recap:

- we have lost best defender but have secured next 2 best permanently.

- promising youngster had decent game against best team (?) in division onSunday

- We have provenChampionship CBs in reserve

- may be in for another before deadline anyway 

- now v well covered for goalkeepers

- right back competition / first choice upgrade(?) secured

-most importantly: midfield now well stocked with quality, with more to come possibly. The lack of cover was our biggest problem last season. BY FAR. We can rotate and play a high press for longer.

- disappointing re EN if true but i’m Certain we have back ups and another 24 hours to go......

- overall I think we are better off than last year, with a day to go.

 

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I was worried last season when we sold Bryan, Reid and Flint but was happily proven very wrong.

Squad looks better than last season and the league looks weaker in my opinion. 

Bad time to play Leeds with the way Bielsa plays and them being fresh.

Lets assess after 10 games or so. 

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Last season was unusual, there were a few players over 20 goals.  Mostly there's only two or three.

We need more firepower but this idea that you have to have a proven 20 goal a season striker is a nonsense, the facts don't bear it out at all.

We are competing in a pond where we're a medium sized fish at best, so put your big boy pants on and stop crying.

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I think the OP doesn’t fully grasp just how difficult it is to recruit a striker who is a) up to Championship quality b) affordable.

Almost all Championship clubs are searching for decent quality strikers. There aren’t  that many out there that meet the criteria.

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32 minutes ago, MATT BCFC said:

I was worried last season when we sold Bryan, Reid and Flint but was happily proven very wrong.

Squad looks better than last season and the league looks weaker in my opinion. 

Bad time to play Leeds with the way Bielsa plays and them being fresh.

Lets assess after 10 games or so. 

how is the squad better when we have sold taken over 30million pounds worth of players from it? and how are Leeds fresh after returning from Aussie and Italy and were missing a couple of their best players?

The old lets see after 10games hope which will no doubt be followed by the xmas window hope, we are in fact about 24hrs away from a terrible season.

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7 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I think the OP doesn’t fully grasp just how difficult it is to recruit a striker who is a) up to Championship quality b) affordable.

Almost all Championship clubs are searching for decent quality strikers. There aren’t  that many out there that meet the criteria.

It is not easy but we have had plenty of time and have a few quid in the bank; we will have arrived when the likes of Leeds/Villa/WBA etc come 2nd to us in player choice not as it is now.....eclipsed by Cardiff ffs

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One game......we've played one fooking game......there are still 45 games to go.....I completely understand your point of view based on copious seasons failing to secure a decent front man in good time.....equally thisnhas arguably lead to us falling away at the business end of the season......BUT.....

There are still more than 24 hours of the Transfer Window remaining.....we've had a a rocky start to the season by playing arguably one of the favourites for promotion......all is not lost yet good buddy......

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Got to laugh. Bobby Reid rumours flying around Twitter now. Brace yourself for all kinds of crazy talk in the next 24 hours. For what it's worth, I'd have him back even if I'd hoped for more.

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1 hour ago, steveybadger said:

So to recap:

- we have lost best defender but have secured next 2 best permanently.

- promising youngster had decent game against best team (?) in division onSunday

- We have provenChampionship CBs in reserve

- may be in for another before deadline anyway 

- now v well covered for goalkeepers

- right back competition / first choice upgrade(?) secured

-most importantly: midfield now well stocked with quality, with more to come possibly. The lack of cover was our biggest problem last season. BY FAR. We can rotate and play a high press for longer.

- disappointing re EN if true but i’m Certain we have back ups and another 24 hours to go......

- overall I think we are better off than last year, with a day to go.

 

We are worse off than last year because now we have too many players in the squad and they will kill the dressing room togetherness meaning that we will go down with players on huge contracts that nobody can afford to buy out even if they wanted to , which they won’t.

We are screwed .

 

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10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

We are worse off than last year because now we have too many players in the squad and they will kill the dressing room togetherness meaning that we will go down with players on huge contracts that nobody can afford to buy out even if they wanted to , which they won’t.

We are screwed .

 

We have lots out of contract next year and a number on loan this year only. If Massengo alone is half decent then we won’t be worse off finacially.

that said I have a nagging doubt you’re on to something re ‘teamspirit’. However, don’t players respond to competition, if that competition is strong?

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2 hours ago, John Galley said:

Without a 20+ goal scorer to go along side our existing strike force, we have no chance of getting promotion. You only have to look at the likes of Wolves, Sheffield United, Villa and even Leeds and Derby, they all had this vital ingredient that we are missing. I said before we should not have put all our eggs in one basket with this Arsenal lad and now the best we can hope for are the second rate strikers that are left, all our other targets have been transferred to other clubs.

Ashton out

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2 hours ago, John Galley said:

Without a 20+ goal scorer to go along side our existing strike force, we have no chance of getting promotion. You only have to look at the likes of Wolves, Sheffield United, Villa and even Leeds and Derby, they all had this vital ingredient that we are missing. I said before we should not have put all our eggs in one basket with this Arsenal lad and now the best we can hope for are the second rate strikers that are left, all our other targets have been transferred to other clubs.

What promotion chances?

Nothings really changed.

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2 hours ago, Monkeh said:

For fork sake

weve played one game

It doesn’t take a ******* rocket scientist to realise that if we don’t sign a decent striker we won’t be anywhere near 1 game or not!!

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2 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said:

It doesn’t take a ******* rocket scientist to realise that if we don’t sign a decent striker we won’t be anywhere near 1 game or not!!

We came close last year and we didn’t have that decent striker

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3 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

We came close last year and we didn’t have that decent striker

What sense does it make to keep on making the same old bloody mistakes year on year?

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How many of the squad from last season have been headhunted? Gutted that We have kept so many of those that have so little promise 

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2 hours ago, Yozzarian said:

If as it appears we lose out to Leeds at the last minute for Nketiah's  signature then we are going to find ourselves in the bizarre position of fans feeling despondent despite the club having shelled out millions.

Why we can't address the forward situation is beyond me. The club must be commended for the signings secured but today along with the performance on Saturday has my mood low. Still, I'll be there next game hopeful as ever.

We are a relatively small club in this league, big names are going to choose bigger clubs because a) they are seen as a better move and b) likely able to pay much more

were moving towards being more self sufficient and in time can afford bigger fees and wages but until then we are never going to be front of the queue for the biggest names.

that leaves us with two options, as breaking the bank isn’t a viable solution the only alternative is looking at lower league players/overseas players or otherwise lesser “known” players and taking a bit of a gamble.

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2 hours ago, Yozzarian said:

It's just always appearing to treat the forward problem as a secondary concern. Why we were even in for a loan and not seeking to secure someone permanently is frustrating. Today's news is just a blow.

How do you know this? You don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, I’m sure the club aren’t stupid and don’t think we don’t need a striker (LJ has even said we need one) so clearly we are looking, we just can’t compete with a lot of clubs in this division

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Gimme the money received from the Kelly and Webster transfers and I’ll bugger off oop Norf on me Vespa and I’ll come back with Dwight Gayle and Barry Bannan on the back. Then we’ll get promoted - it’s that easy! 😎🍷

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2 hours ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said:

IF we don’t get a striker in then the club has failed (given that this has been an issue for so long) but at this present moment it is still an ‘if’

FAILED????? Jeez,  there is absolutely no law in this land that states a player (or a number of targeted players) our management team are interested in recruiting for BCFC MUST complete the deal and sign on for us.  

One of my international Clients called me last week begging me to cover a senior job for them in Grimsby for 3 months whilst they recruit a permanent solution.  Money was really good and I really am the best bloke for their project……….but I told them to do one.

My Client hasn't failed……I knocked them back and they couldn't do anything to change my mind.  Grimsby????  Naaah.        💩     👀     ✋

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18 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said:

What sense does it make to keep on making the same old bloody mistakes year on year?

I’m sorry I must of dreamt the year on year improvement in club stature league position and finances as well as quality of players being signed, 

i also apologise I forgot the transfer window was closed and that the league finished Sunday oh well at least the gas got relegated 

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1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

I’m sorry I must of dreamt the year on year improvement in club stature league position and finances as well as quality of players being signed, 

i also apologise I forgot the transfer window was closed and that the league finished Sunday oh well at least the gas got relegated 

Glad your happy 👍🏻

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Just now, KeepUpLino said:

Glad your happy 👍🏻

I haven’t said I was

but I’m also not acting like a toddler who has been told they can’t have any sweets and is throwing a tantrum 

we could win the next 20 games in a row 1-0 you don’t know you can’t predict it,

im sure you predicted relegation last season when flint Bryan and Reid were sold and acting like you are now then

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